The_Troll

This shit sucks, everybody is going to discredit Barrera when he takes Manny to school on boxing skills now. They bitch and moan about Barrera making excuses, (which he has, and I didn't agree with) but Manny won't be man enough (nor his fans) to admit it when Barrera schools him. The Pacquiao camp and his fans will say whatever they can to discredit Marco. I was thinking the exact same thing

wat 3 the real odds? im goin wit pavlik by tko i duno thow ive never seen taylor really hurt so maybe he can come off with a sd or sum shit look at who's he fought. and Pavlik has knocked out alot of guys with alot more proven chins than Taylor be it smaller guys mostly.

Lewis/Rahman II I mean Tuesday Night Knockouts series and other low profile fights have some scary ones...but high profile, Lewis/Rahman II always stands out in my mind Why is ESPN boxing so much worse than USA Tuesday Night Fights was. ESPN doesn't have a bigger budget than the USA network? People complain about boxing declining it starts right there on the mainstream networks and what you get has declined dramtically in my opinion.

Oh nevermind, just saw that your already downloading it.

Ibeabuchi has to be #1.

I . I like Versus more when it's on.

you remember at what odds?

Holyfield Tyson 1 was good because of all the buzz that surrounded it and how surprised everybody was that Holyfield won.

Tyson could have been champion a long time. And like I've said before, his title reign was maybe THE most dominating and destructive ever.

of fights in recent years Ward Gatti I but it's downgraded by the fact I didn't see it live and had to watch it on a VHS tape my friend recorded.

Good question. I am a fan of FNF but there was something very special about TNF. Maybe tuesday is just a better way to break up the week and maybe Shawn was just more fun than Teddy and his endless repetition. They had way better venues, better fighters, and much more exciting fights. You hardly ever see a great KO on ESPN boxing. Tuesday Night Fights has like 5 DVD's full of them.

I'm a big fan of FNF's myself; I don't see anything wrong with it. They showcase up-and-coming talent and fighters who are trying to regain some of their former glory.. It's a decent show, I just think that tuesday night fights was alot better. It really was a great program. Look how even today they sell DVD's at a premium price. I need to download some of those if anybody knows where they are.

I . it's funny the one guy you remember is Charles Brewer.

I think he will. If Taylor's jab was everything it's supposed to be I might think different but it isn't. And besides that like somebody else said he doesn't have great movement. He'll get into exchanges with Kelly and he'll get beat up. He does have experience against good opposition, Taylor does, but all those guys are old hat and not exactly hungry fighters especially I think in the case of Bernard. Pavlik is the first such fighter he'll be fighting in regards to being young and hungry, goes about his business with an edge.

Barrera is the most complete fighter of the well known boxers.

Mayweather Kessler Cotto Barrera Taylor -discuss Calzaghe Cotto Barrera Pavlik

No advice on taking liver shots?

I was going to say Hagler when he was in southpaw stance since he was right handed but I guess that doesn't count.

Do you hold Kesslers jockstrap aswell? Or are you the person who gives him handjobs because no one likes that douchebag except guys who don't ride in a straight line. Will see who the real bad ass is on fight night. Where the world be if Larry Holmes never made that 'Marciano can't carry my jockstrap' speech after the Spinks fight.

Peronally I think he's very enjoyable to listen to and is a much better commentator over all than everybody HBO has brought in since.

I dont know that since going to 12 rounds serious injuries in the ring have declined at all. And like I've said many times no matter how many rounds bouts are people are going to get injured in boxing. People get serious injuries in boxing just sparring the gym somtimes wearing headgear and everything. Some are just pre-disposed and/or hit the wrong way.

For the most elite fighters. Yes, definitely. Promoters like having as many of their fighters as possible in notoriety, they dont want just one guy that everybody follows, as least some promoters. probably one of the reasons they have it 12 rounds now.

i would give cotto the advantage over hatton as well but just because of his size and strength his size would give hatton problems because he wouldnt be able to easily smother cotto but as far as their careers are concerned alot of people think ricky has accomplished more and is a better fighter overall then cotto ricky is the main man at 140 and cotto is one of the champions on the verge of superstar status thats the case and floyd is fighting ricky over cotto, why is floyd getting shitted on for fighting the better opposition? I'd say they're about on par.

This fight might actually be good but I dont think Mayorga can make 147. I dont think Margarito would take this fight on short notice at a catch weight but who knows.

i would give cotto the advantage over hatton as well but just because of his size and strength his size would give hatton problems because he wouldnt be able to easily smother cotto but as far as their careers are concerned alot of people think ricky has accomplished more and is a better fighter overall then cotto ricky is the main man at 140 and cotto is one of the champions on the verge of superstar status if thats the case and floyd is fighting ricky over cotto, why is floyd getting shitted on for fighting the better opposition? I dont think there's many people complaining about the Floyd Hatton matchup except delusional Mosely fans. He's gonna get stopped by Cotto.

I think Hatton matches up better against Floyd than does Cotto, but if they ever fought each other I think Cotto has the advantage over Hatton.

guessing Cintron Williams because it would generate more interest as of now. That's the fight I personally would rather see.

Bad matchup for Mayorga, he needs an opponent with a bad chin or defense. I think it would be a great matchup for Mayorga. Not an easy fight but one he can win. Margarito's not going to overwhelm him with speed and is there to be hit, he will exchange punches with him. It would definitely be entertaining which is a good thing for both them obviously.

Floyd and De La Gaya aren't relavent to this topic. I'll take Cotto's record in last couple years over Floyd's though.

Mayorga has amazing natural power that is for sure and Don King is amazing promoter even though people consider him a devil he gives his fighters fast shot to the title instead of the long round journey guys like that dont need much promoting.