I'm basically in agreement with what pretty much everyone has said. Not the fight, I want to see, but I would definitely watch it.
There are other fights I would like to see from those two, but I cannot imagine a fifth fight being anything less than great.
Of course, one of the big issues is that a lot of the fights that people really want to see Marquez and Pacquiao in can't really be done (as of now) due to all the Cold War nonsense.
There are some very good points in there.
Another thing I have thought about before is how would Buster Douglas do in an era like the current? I imagine he would do good. Had a natural flow in his boxing. As far as beating either Klitschko I'm not too sure, but still interesting to imagine him against some of the current heavies.
A little surprised more didn't think Maidana won. Not arguing whether either guy should have won, but I saw a couple of swing rounds that I think are really the difference makers in this fight and thought they would have been split a little more evenly.
No complaints. Thought it was a great, close fight. 7-5 either way or a draw are the best scores IMO.
The fact that two of the judges had Mayweather up 4-2 after 6 is enough to tell you that Chino wasn't getting this one on the cards no matter how hard he worked.
Agreed.
I think it pretty much comes down to this. Mayweather definitely did not win 4 of the first six.
No complaints about Mayweather getting the decision, but Maidana simply wasn't winning on score cards that night.
You don't have to hate Mayweather to think he lost. I thought he lost, and I like him.
Not saying it was clear either way, but I do believe Maidana was the winner.
7-5 Maidana. No complaints for 7-5 Mayweather or a draw. I don't think there are 8 rounds that either of them won so 8-4 would be pushing it for both sides IMO.
Watch the fight again or change the sport.
I don't really think they were that biased towards Mayweather. They didn't say anything about the glove issues which was bs but their scores and commentary didn't favour Mayweather. They had the fight close to the draw and Maidana in no way deserved more. 115 113 is being generous to Marcos.
What's happening to this site? It wasn't easy for Mayweather but he definitely won that fight. I understand it was unexpected but still he won. 116-112 imo
I did watch it again. Still don't see how Mayweather could have won any of the first 5.
But there is no way they split the first six rounds 3-3 is what I'm saying.
I can easily see 7-5 for either or a draw.
Sliding is definitely the more efficient way. This way you're always ready to move quickly. Every inch and second counts in boxing. Have to be as ready as possible for any situation.
With these kinds of incidents, sure, it was legal and protect yourself at all times. and all that. That's all true, but does it prove who the better boxer is? No, not really. And isn't that the goal of a boxing match? To win and show who the better boxer is?
It just shows who was better at taking advantage of the situation. It was a cheap shot, and there's really no way around it.
It's disappointing to see because as a big Rigo fan myself, he was very likely to go on and possibly get a "legit" knockout, if not win a shutout. But he, and all of the boxing world was robbed of that.
Maybe this is a good way to get more attention and become the "bad guy" as a lot of people have stated. But it's also an easy way for the networks to not have him on bigger events. I guess only time will tell.
the extra friction of sliding is quicker and more efficient?!
Yes, quicker than lifting your foot off the canvas and having to place it back down when you need to move. When you slide, you don't keep the entire foot planted down. You keep the ball of your foot on the canvas and slide it to follow the lead foot.
Why does HBO show Gilberto ramirez and zou shaming's fights but they don't air Brian viloria and rigondeaux's fight???? Makes no fkn sense!
Yeah it's too bad. Especially because Viloria always brings it.
I just wish more people were into the light weight classes. Miss out on a lot of great fights.
And you said the same to Garcia, right? You know, the trainer who TOLD his fighter to be as dirty as possible? I'm sure I saw you picket his gym one time with the above statement on your placard.
This topic is about Mayweather and holding. Don't act like the only time Mayweather used illegal tactics was against Maidana.
To answer your question, refer to the reply below.
so clinching isnt a part of boxing?
Yes, it is part of boxing. But guess what? So are low blows, headbutts, and rabid punching. And they are all illegal.
Rios swung Chaves around into that corner.
He really didn't. Just part of Chaves' way to get a point deduction (which worked). I have never seen Rios fight dirty before, and I really didn't see it tonight either.
Chaves reminded me of a soccer player tonight. Sneakily dirty, whiny, and dramatic. I was rooting for him because I liked the way he fought against Thurman and I didn't really care for Rios all that much. It didn't take very long for the switch to Rios.
Not a fan of that type of fighting. Excessive clinching, dirty moves (not this "veteran tactic" nonsense that Ward was talking about), and unwarranted crying.
I did find it interesting that Ward felt the need to defend the dirty fighting. I can't possibly imagine why.
Exactly, it's a joke and cheap gimmick. Come to Colorado if you wanna feel the real thing. :boxing:
While it certainly does not completely replicate the real thing, anyone who has trained with the mask can tell you that it makes a difference with your training.
It's kind of like training with a weight vest or sauna suit. It wears you down pretty hard while you have it, but you feel a huge difference once you take it off.
Reminds me of the weighted clothing they wore in Dragon Ball Z lol.
I would definitely say Postol has a good style to beat Garcia. Tricky, and elusive, much like Herrera.
One of the differences though is the punching power. Postol showed he has decent pop in his punches and throws in combination with it. Not a huge puncher, but even Herrera had Danny a little stunned when he landed cleanly.
One of the other differences though, is the chin. Not to say that Postol has a week chin based off a knockdown by a hard puncher in Aydin, but part of the reason Herrera was able to (unofficially) beat Garcia is that when he did land, Herrera was able to take the punches like nothing.
An interesting fight for sure.
Dude, Rios was ramming his head into Chaves every time he got in close.
It has been explained why that happens. With both arms tied up, there is no where else for the head to go.
I think clinching takes a lot out of some fights. I don't really see it as "strategy" so much. It's painful to watch and breaks up the action.
Of course, when a fighter is hurt I see nothing wrong with it.
But man some if Ward's comments really were cringe-worthy.
I think Rios did a lot more to get DQ'd than Chaves did
Would you mind saying exactly what he did?
As critical as I have been of him, I have never seen him fighting dirty.