Whatever happened to work rate?

There are many things that aren't scoring criterias that still get judged, and work rate is usually one of the things that judges are looking for according to the commentators. You don't score cuts or bruises either, but it still get's scored by a lot of judges. Crowd reaction is probably the most influential aspect in scoring ringside - moreso than actual punches landed.

There are many things that aren't scoring criterias that still get judged, and work rate is usually one of the things that judges are looking for according to the commentators. You don't score cuts or bruises either, but it still get's scored by a lot of judges. damage isn't a scoring criteria either yet if you badly stagger a guy, you can win that round despite having been losing it(preferably not by a huge margin) just because of one punch that had the other guy badly stumbling and holding onto dear life

Work rate is not considered. Effective Aggression is. Tho a lot of judges score for just aggression only. There is nothing wrong with a 115-113 victory for either fighter or a draw.

There are many things that aren't scoring criterias that still get judged, and work rate is usually one of the things that judges are looking for according to the commentators. You don't score cuts or bruises either, but it still get's scored by a lot of judges. Explain how to score a cut or a bruise?

Work rate is not a scoring criteria and never has been. There are many things that aren't scoring criterias that still get judged, and work rate is usually one of the things that judges are looking for according to the commentators. You don't score cuts or bruises either, but it still get's scored by a lot of judges.

The fact that two of the judges had Mayweather up 4-2 after 6 is enough to tell you that Chino wasn't getting this one on the cards no matter how hard he worked. Agreed. I think it pretty much comes down to this. Mayweather definitely did not win 4 of the first six. No complaints about Mayweather getting the decision, but Maidana simply wasn't winning on score cards that night.

Pity pats at the end of rounds wins fights, unless you've been thoroughly dominated, then it's just an even round.

I'm reminded of the Barcelona fans who whinged about dominating possession. The fact that Maidana had to throw so many punches, to compete with Mayweather, is indicative of the fact that his aggression was less efficient: one fighter ended up tired by the 5th round, whilst the other took control.

Everyone knew Chino would get robbed, we knew he needed the KO and cant expect a fair fight from Floyd in Vegas. You just had to look at the scorecards. Even with a KD Floyd would have won that fight according to them :lol1: Effective? Take a look at both guys face after the fight. Facial damage is not a scoring criteria, neither is simply throwing punches. You can take as many shots in basketball as you want but the only ones that count are the ones that go in

This. I have no idea why people think it is. alot of them didnt become boxing fans until pac man got famous

Work rate is not a scoring criteria and never has been. This. I have no idea why people think it is.

Everyone knew Chino would get robbed, we knew he needed the KO and cant expect a fair fight from Floyd in Vegas. You just had to look at the scorecards. Even with a KD Floyd would have won that fight according to them :lol1: Effective? Take a look at both guys face after the fight. It's so dumb when someone says look at their faces after the fight. Look at Pac's face after the Clottey fight.

In some cases, people say work rate to enhance a fighters effort in a fight, but in this Floyd vs Chino it's the direct opposite. It's like it's a bad thing that he was throwing so many punches. He doubled Floyds output and he landed as many shots according to compubox (yes I know it is not completely accurate.). So why is it, that when let's say, Calzaghe met Hopkins, everyone was cool with Calzaghe taking it based on his work rate contra Hopkins, when now the word work rate doesn't even matter. I know he missed more than Floyd did on the percent, but he kept up by outworking Mayweather. So what is it guys? Is work rate completely irrelevant. I've personally always scored work rate over efficiency if both fighters lands the same amount of punches. Defense is also a judges criteria as well. You landed virtually the same number of punches, but were made to miss 74% of them should be more than enough to be the tie-breaker in the event of efficiency vs (largely) ineffective aggression.

As you can see a lot of people fell for it. The agrrression put on Floyd was beautiful to see but it wasn't effective except for getting dirty blows headbutt a and knees and tackles in. If Chino actually land as clean as Mayweather don't you think he would had buckled at least like in the Mosley fight especially since he was out weight by 20 pounds. he landed a number of bodyshots, although i know floyd fans dont like to process that seeing as cotto only won 1-2 rd's that still could haver been given to floyd cotto in reality won "atleast" 3 rd's in that fight although 4 is the maximum

That was probably the biggest surprise of this fight, that Maidana's workrate wasn't cut down at all. I think it's a plus in his favor, though I don't think he won. A high workrate is always a good thing, because judges will usually fall for it. it helped that floyd barely punched him at all

Work rate is not a scoring criteria and never has been.

Floyd won, get over it. How many different sook threads do we need saying the same thing ? 8% of boxing writers had Maidana winning.

Everyone knew Chino would get robbed, we knew he needed the KO and cant expect a fair fight from Floyd in Vegas. You just had to look at the scorecards. Even with a KD Floyd would have won that fight according to them :lol1: Work rate doesn't win fight, clean effective punching does. Effective? Take a look at both guys face after the fight.

Work rate doesn't win fight, clean effective punching does. Really, how hard is this to process?

In some cases, people say work rate to enhance a fighters effort in a fight, but in this Floyd vs Chino it's the direct opposite. It's like it's a bad thing that he was throwing so many punches. He doubled Floyds output and he landed as many shots according to compubox (yes I know it is not completely accurate.). So why is it, that when let's say, Calzaghe met Hopkins, everyone was cool with Calzaghe taking it based on his work rate contra Hopkins, when now the word work rate doesn't even matter. I know he missed more than Floyd did on the percent, but he kept up by outworking Mayweather. So what is it guys? Is work rate completely irrelevant. I've personally always scored work rate over efficiency if both fighters lands the same amount of punches. Maidana and Calzaghe won both those fights you mention... I think it boils down to who is what, Mayweather is this cash cow and was brought up with silver spoon treatment... Two Nevada judges Referee who allowed Mayweather to hug and elbow and push his forearm and gloves off on Maidanas face Complains when Maidana is hitting him at the back of the head when he is the one moving his head in the position that makes it inevitable... Floyd is many things... a good boxer perhaps one of the greats, amazing defensively a fairly good resume but the best ever? Far from it, today was an example of what happened when Castillo and DLH fought him they never got their due credit against the man. There is no way is Floyd an undefeated fighter he knows he lost.