he won't, but regardless, it don't change the fact, floyd ducked Antonio Margarito
It don't change the fact that your boy is a bum. IF, and thats a big if, he beats Williams, then Cotto is going to get in that ass. You should be excited as hell that Margarito bought himself some time out of the hospital by waiting to fight Cotto. One way or another, it won't be long before Tony picks up his next loss.
lol, he is scared shitless of Antonio Margarito, and rightfully so.
cmon man, quit making excuses for your bitch.
Scared shitless of Margarito, yet is willing to fight much better opponents? Much more dangerous opponents? Be serious, your boy Antonio is good at beating up scrubs. Once he gets in the ring with a talented boxer its going get ugly for him. I was hoping he'd fight Cotto just so you'd disappear sooner, but it will be worth the wait (IF he gets be Williams).
Mosley has already said, he would like Mayweather to fight Margarito first and Mayweather well, Mayweather just doesn't want to fight Margarito.
You're too funny. The same argument can be said about Mosley, DLH and Hatton all wanting to fight PBF at the end of their careers. They know they can't win, so they want it to be their finale for big money. The funny part is that you think Margarito is generating money for fights. Floyd was offered $8 mil to fight Margarito, but the money was being generated by Floyd, which is the same reason he's getting $8 mil for Baldy. Its sad that you'd rather see the #1 P4P fighter in the world fight some guy who has done nothing for the sport than guys who are world-class fighters and have proven it over and over. You claim PBF is avoiding the best, yet criticize him for trying to fight the guys that have proven they are the best. You can't be taken seriously, just like your boy Margarito.
You just said is perfectly, now you will have to say this 1 million times, in 1 million other post, cause Mayweather has many nuthuggers that are a part of this site, they like to protect their fighter from tough opponets like Margarito.
You can't be serious. I completely agree that Floyd hasn't fought the best fighters at 147 or above yet, but that is what his goal is. Baldomir is the champ at 147, Spinks is the champ at 154, DLH has a belt at 154 and is a sure hall of famer, Mosley is considered one of the best P4P fighters in the world. Floyd is going after 3 of these guy within the next 6 months and you bring up Margarito? Floyd is lining up fights with hall of famers and you say he won't fight tough opponents. You are a goddamn fool if you think Margarito is a tougher fight than DLH, Mosley or Spinks. And you have the nerve to call people nuthuggers.
So you're contemp with Mayweather consitantly fighting hand picked opponet and old war horses?
You don't feel it should be his job to fight the new fresh meat?
Are you a boxing fan, or just one who only gets excited when only known name fighters fight each other?
If Margarito isn't proven then what makes Mayweather proven at welterweight? Don't talk about his past, talk about the present and tell me what has Mayweather done that is greater then Margaritos accomplishments.
And if you belive Mayweather is the only generating the 8 million for a fight with Margarito then tell me why, before Gatti, their had not been one ppv involving Mayweather?
Why you and the rest of the Floyd fans fear Margarito so much i don't know.
Its not about fearing Margarito, its about wanting to see two of the greatest fighters of our generation get in the ring together. Whether its DLH, Mosley, Hatton, or Spinks, its going to be two of the best fighters in the world going at it. I think most people would rather see that than some guy who won't even fight his mandatory. Like I told you before, this isn't a Rocky movie, a fighter has to earn his way to the top. The best fighter in the world doesn't have to give some "fresh meat" a fight because they ask for it. I don't think you should be questioning whether other people are boxing fans if thats really what you want. Its hard to even fathom how you think Margarito is a better fight than some of these other guys. What do you base that on? What has Margarito done that makes you think he deserves to be fighting some of the greatest fighters in the world? Maybe you should just stop defending this clown and hop on another guys nuts cuz Margarito is making you look bad.
Why does Hatton NEED a big pay day then? He's from a working class family, he still lives in his home town despite being a millionaire a number of times over. He doesnt cover himself with bling, he doesnt go to the showbiz parties, he doesnt have a celebrity girlfriend (he is still with his childhood sweetheart I believe), he could EASILY make a few more million by fighting in his home-town against mandatory contenders. He is NOT a huge spender, he is not a money hog, he just isnt that kind of guy, he is incredibly down to earth.
Sure, he would like a few big pay-days, but to think thats the only reason he's going after the big-dogs would be to completely underestimate Ricky Hatton as a person. He wants the big fights because he wants the glory and respect and legacy that they bring.
Kid yourself as much as you like about Hatton's talent in the ring. But outside of the ring, if you cannot respect the guy and his intentions, then you are a fool.
I think you are overestimating him as a person. He's had the chance to make big fights for the past 3 years and hasn't made a single one. Now that he's at the end of the line, he's trying to make one? Why wouldn't this guy make the fights when he was coming off a strong victory over Kostya Tszyu? He turns in a couple victories over complete bums and now he wants to call out the top dogs? I don't care if you have $100 in the bank or $100 million, you always want more. I've been saying it for about 6 months now; Hatton is going to fight one huge fight at the end of his career for a shitload of money, get his ass handed to him and retire. Floyd has most likely moved on because he now has Mosley and Cotto plus a possible rematch with DLH that will pay him more than Hatton would. Ricky better hope he doesn't bullshit with Cotto too long or Miguel might decide to forget him too.
Before the De La Hoya fight he wasn't as well known, not a household name and did shitty numbers for a champ of his magnitude. Oscar slingshot Floyd into the spotlight and the stardom he has now. Before the DLH fight, Ricky Hatton v. Floyd Sinclair would not be selling like it is now.
You continue to solidify your status as the biggest hater on boxingscene.
Floyd was doing better PPV numbers than anyone in boxing. If that is "shitty" then what would you say about everyone elses?
Before the DLH fight he was among the biggest names in boxing. And of course the DLH fight put him in the spotlight. Who the fuck would know or give a damn about Felix Sturm if it weren't for DLH. Oscar upped the status of every fighter he faced. But Floyd has taken advantage of being in that spotlight and helped himself become such a big draw. Oscar just gave him the opportunity to expand on an already impressive status.
I don't see Mayweather struggling to but on weight to make Welterweight. He has grown into a Welter and is a welter now.
If Floyd drained his body like most other fighters do, he might still be able to make 135. Maybe not quite that low, but damn close. In reality, he has no business fighting at 147 with guys that are up to 5 inches taller and might outweigh him by 20 pounds on the night of the fight. Hell, the reason they have weight divisions is to avoid that exact situation. But it doesn't matter who he fights, who he beats or what he says cuz a hater like you is just gonna hate. You're already trying to discredit his win over Hatton and the fight hasn't even happened.
You would put Mayweather in against big ass Hearns in the 1st round of this fantasy tourney lol. I think Hearns would win the whole damn thing.
Hearns
Pea
Tito
SRL
You and other Floyd fans have said it yourselfs.. who is Hatton, who has he fought, he is a C class fighter. I like Hatton as a person but as an athlete I dont think hes that great. I laught at y'all who admit that a fighter is shit but then when he beats him its a great fucking victory.
Beating Hatton proves more than beating any other fighter 154 or lower at the moment with the exception of Cotto. And that wasn't the case until he handled Mosley. So really what point are you trying to make?
And you're right, most Floyd fans are going to say that Hatton is overrated, just like you keep trying to imply Floyd is overrated. Fans of one fighter are going to talk shit about other fighters. Thats just the way it is. You do the same damn thing.
How does Floyd Mayweather STILL have his WBC belt after OVER A YEAR without defending it?
What goes on inside the mind of Gavin?
*shit I lost another debate... What else can I come back with?*
lol, what could be more relevant than overall win loss percentages of competition faced?
What, should i have calculated PPV numbers in an attempt to glean their respective greatness?
Should i count the number of times mufucker leaves Mayweathers mouth as an indicator of his supremecy?
Or the number of times Hatton says piss off for that matter.
These are the numbers they have posted, not skewed in any way.
Is you love for Floyd that immense that reality is unfair in your opinion?
How is their opponents winning percentage more valuable information than the quality of that competition? Beating a bunch of nobodies isn't quite the same as beating a bunch of quality opponents. Or does your ignorance make that impossible for you to see? You honestly couldn't have thought you were onto something.
Castillo already had 50 fights, not in his prime and he still beat Floyd. NEXT.
Castillo was still in his 20's, which in most cases is when fighter reaches his prime. And his 50 fights were mostly against bums (early portion of his career), which made up for a lack or an amateur career which is common among Mexican fighters. Thank you, but try again.
Nothing you guys think about race will apply in another hundred years. There has been an astronomical increase in mixed race babies in the past decade and it won't stop. The only ones that refuse to mix is those damn asians. They must have a math equation telling them not to (I had to be racist to fit in).
So you tell me why they all got up and went to do other things if they thought Oscar had even come close
I already had the money from DLH fans in my hands when the scores were being read. When the fight ended they all were talking about how DLH would get him in the rematch. No way the fight should've been that close.
Justin Roswell? Stephen Smith?
Hatton won more decisively facing better competition?
Let me ask you this: How many future HOF's has Hatton beat in his career? How many has Floyd beat? How many top 10 guys has Floyd beat? How many has Hatton beat?
The haters discredit Carlos Baldomir (the guy who beat Zab and Gatti) for having lost fights (almost a decade ago) and want credit for Justin Roswell (a guy who beat ??????) What a joke.
First off, neither DLH or Baldo are pure pressure fighters. Neither does it effectively.
Second, Floyd is the biggest pure pressure fighter Mayweather has ever faced.
Hatton is going to walk through Mayweather-Mark my words!
I really hope you're not putting real money on that thinking. If Floyd comes with the same mentality he did against Gatti, then this will be a stoppage for Floyd. If not, then he'll only win a UD.
I don't think many people care for the divisions. How many people care about Light Heavy unless Hopkins, Jones, Tarver, Johnson or Dawson are fighting each other? Same with the top talent at 154. There isn't a lot of interest in those divisions because the top guys just don't fight each other.
again, more delusional hate
Post number two!
Numbers are numbers. Hatton has faced a combined record as good and slightly better than Mayweathers in terms of percentages!
Don't piss and moan about it, be men and accept that you live in a lie!
I'm just asking you to throw out more relevant numbers big fella. I guess I should count this as hate post number 1 from you.
"Called out." lol Yeah.....now who is the 12 year old?
There is simply no refutation of the statement that "Floyd is no Marvin Hagler." None at all. The fact that you took it upon yourself to prove otherwise is what was childish.
We all have eyes. Floyd is not an aggressive fighter at all. That's simple and true. Now, go ahead with your excuses.
As usual you are making incorrect assumptions. I never tried to prove that Floyd was anything like Marvin Hagler. I simply pointed out that Floyd has been aggresive in most of his fights throughout his career. He does so in an intelligent way as to not take the punishment that other "aggresive" fighters take. He's hasn't been aggresive his last 2 fights and for good reason. There isn't more than a handful of other fights in which you could say the same. But I doubt you'd know that since you don't seem to hold very much knowledge about his career (or boxing in general)
Baldomir = Legitimate champion
Tszyu = bum
wow these clowns are unreal.
Hatton became the legit champ at 140 by beating Tszyu. Yes, he was washed up but that's beside the point when discussing how Hatton became champ at 140.
Erick Morales, Marco Barrera, Manny P there are many he ducked @ 130 and 135. LOL @ thread starter.
This is why nobody can or should respect anything you say.
i think beating morales any one time is better than any of floyds wins,and old barrera is equal to a weight drained corrales.i don't wanna take credit away from floyd,but it's the truth.
Corrales fought at 130 for 3 years after his fight with Floyd, so I don't think making weight was too much of an issue. However, Morales moved up to fight at lightweight between his fights with Pac. Not to discredit Pac, but I think it was Morales who had the trouble making 130, not Corrales.
Pretty sure Tzsyu equals Castillo-next.
Go back and read dumbass. The context included "in their prime" not at the end of the road and ready to quit after 11 rounds.
were they world champions? did they have the belts?
So fucking two faced and hypocritical is sickening.
So mayweather can take belts from Gatti, Corely, Baldo and be legit?
soooo damn sad!
Nobody has said taking Gatti's belt made Floyd the WORLD CHAMPION at 140. He needed to beat Hatton for that. However, yes Baldomir was the world champion because he had beat the world champion who had beat the world champion and so on. Urango, Collazo and Maussa were BELT HOLDERS and weak ones at that.