Mayweather vs. Hatton Thread Part 2

How did the title of my thread get changed to Hatton/Mayweather part 2? How is that possible? Well can somebody answer this.

How did the title of my thread get changed to Hatton/Mayweather part 2? How is that possible?

If Floyd drained his body like most other fighters do, he might still be able to make 135. Maybe not quite that low, but damn close. In reality, he has no business fighting at 147 with guys that are up to 5 inches taller and might outweigh him by 20 pounds on the night of the fight. Hell, the reason they have weight divisions is to avoid that exact situation. But it doesn't matter who he fights, who he beats or what he says cuz a hater like you is just gonna hate. You're already trying to discredit his win over Hatton and the fight hasn't even happened. Floyd could make 135, that is why he should offer a superfight to pacman, its very doable at 135.

Floyd promises the fans a toe-toe battle! ROBERT MORALES: Floyd, before I ask you this question, let me preface it by saying that I think you can and probably will stop Ricky Hatton inside the distance on December 8th. That, do you think there might, if there's one complaint that I heard after the De la Hoya fight, and it wasn't that you won because we all thought you won, including myself, it was that there wasn't quite enough toe-to-toe action to make fans happy. FLOYD MAYWEATHER: Well you don't have to worry about that this time. You don't have to worry about that. Believe me, when I tell you this, you don't have to worry about that. You won't get, you won't get a lot, you're going to get that from the opening bell. FLOYD MAYWEATHER: I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the media because, I mean you guys are the ones that helped Floyd Mayweather get to the level that he's at over the years, writing all the articles and I appreciate, I mean everybody. I really, and I truly mean that and thanks for supporting me. My family appreciates you guys. Be there December 8; if you can't, buy pay-per-view because you, this go-around I have to give you guys a toe-to-toe battle and I'm not going to let you guys down. I'm going to go out there and perform well and all my U.K. fans, all my U.K. writers, I appreciate all the articles and continue to write about Ricky Hatton and continue to write about Floyd Mayweather and I'll see you guys next week. Thanks

I was refering to Ricky's only prayer to be an early KO or a way he can slow Floyd down in the early rounds to gain an advantage. Just giving Ricky the benefit of the doubt.:boxing:

1) Hatton is the man at 140. Cotto, Williams, Cintron are beltholder. Margarito was one. 2) Come fight night, Hatton is going to weigh more than Mayweather. 3) Are you saying JC did not deserve a shot at Pea?

Let's get it on! Not much to argue about anymore. Ricky will be in the spotlight. He knows what he's in for. Perhaps, his only prayer is to KO Floyd or slow him down considerably in the early rounds. But it's only speculation. Ricky needs to prove he can indeed hang in there after a rough night. :boxing:

Floyd defeating a Junior Welterweight giving the illusion that he beat one of the best in his division when in reality he is a division below. Now what I am asking myself is, why is Floyd fighting Hatton? Even though it's gonna make money it doesn't make sense. Just what will this fight prove?? Floyd will win by a decision and give the illusion that he is fighting the best in his division, when in reality he is denying the people who do deserve a shot at this title a shot by avoiding them. Then his fan boys will run around saying he's faced and beat the best and the Hatton fight proves it but Hatton is a way smaller opponent who literally no one gives a chance in hell at defeating Floyd. If Mayweather makes such big numbers by himself then he shouldn't of had any problem making big number with Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Cintron or Margarito. I WILL NOT BE PAYING FOR THIS FIGHT. WAIST OF MONEY AND IT WOULD BE MORE ENTERTAINING WATCHING THE GRASS GROW. Mayweather is a guy fighting in a divsision 2 weight classes then what he should be fighting at. Margarito would never do that, just like vargas never did, just like morales barrera and castillo never did

Hatton would beat anyone at 140, and most at 147. If you can't see Hatton is a bigger man in this fight, then god help you my friend. Floyd was fighting at 130 pounds once, this is a guy who is 180 pounds but makes 140 fights pounds. I see you have already started discrediting floyd, Hatton was a Welterweight champion. Seriously, have you seen Ricky at 180? They don't call him Fatton for nothing, I bet he has 5 pounds in his face alone. Its not like he's 180 pure muscle, he's like Duran used to be between fights, a lot of fat. Oscar used to fight 130 as well, what's your point? People naturally mature as they get older, Floyd has as well.

I think most of them know ricky is gonna get hurt Junior witter as well believes Mayweather is gonna spank Hatton.. A lot compare it to the Kostya Tyszu fight but its a totally different fight Kostya was at the end of the road when he fought Hatton Floyd is on top of his game right now... Having watched that fight several times it looked as though Tszyu was trying to counter punch his way through the fight but he had said that his gameplan was to box on the outside, presumably pot shotting Hatton before he could get off. I would hazard a guess that Floyd will try the same thing so the if Tszyu was telling the truth about his gameplan and Hatton got round it then there are genuine comparisons between the fights.

Style-wise Hatton is a horrible matchup for Kos. He doesn't allow Kos to time his punches and hit you with the right hand right at THE END of his fist. Floyd is going to tear Hatton up in one week, but it will be a great fight for however long it lasts.

He beat Castillo at 135, among a few top ranked contenders. You're the only one devaluing his accomplishments at 135. Even the haters acknowledge 135. Also, he won the Welter Weight title before Cotto was even thought of. My bad I thought Castillo was @ 130, which he won against once.

I think most of them know ricky is gonna get hurt Junior witter as well believes Mayweather is gonna spank Hatton.. A lot compare it to the Kostya Tyszu fight but its a totally different fight Kostya was at the end of the road when he fought Hatton Floyd is on top of his game right now...

Until he fights Cotto I don't see Gatti or Baldomir as accomplishments in the Welter division, DLH I give him mad props for but he hasn't done much outside of 130. 130 he was great, but outside of that he isn't doing shit. He beat Castillo at 135, among a few top ranked contenders. You're the only one devaluing his accomplishments at 135. Even the haters acknowledge 135. Also, he won the Welter Weight title before Cotto was even thought of.

The formula for Mayweather = Karim Mayfield Karim Mayfield By Raymond Markarian Being one of the hottest prospects to come out of Northern California has its advantages. For Karim “The Hard Hitta” Mayfield, that advantage led him straight to Manchester, England. Karim Mayfield held the privilege of helping Ricky Hatton prepare for his upcoming showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on December 8th. Karim grew up in the Fillmore section of the San Francisco Bay Area. He currently trains at the Straight Forward Boxing Club, the hottest gym in the Bay Area, located in the heart of downtown San Francisco. Like most fighters before him, Karim’s upbringing was rough: “I have seen a lot of death and poverty. But my family and closest friends keep me inspired to keep going.” And keep going he has. Like the Road Runner. After only five years of boxing training, a Golden Gloves championship, and an impressive 40-5 amateur record on his resume, “The Hard Hitta” has built a 5-0 record with all five wins coming by way of knockout. One of his victims was a man named Alejo Sepulveda who was actually considered Roger Mayweather’s hottest prospect until he met the quick hands of “The Hard Hitta” and lost via first round knockout. “Growing up, I could have easily gone down the wrong road," he said. "But I have been lucky my family has always been there for me. I have a wife and three beautiful children. My grandmother, parents and my older brother have all been my greatest inspirations. "My older brother beat me up a lot as a kid. He actually taught me how to box. We fought many times growing up I remember trying to attack him with my head down throwing roundhouse punches. He used to hit me with the jab every time. He would always tell me to keep my head up when I punch. Fighting with my older brother helped me become a better boxer.” Ricky Hatton has taken notice. “You can make some good things happen man. You have an awkward style. It is hard to mess with,” he told Mayfield. In his defense, Mayfield pointed out the positive reinforcement received from the Hatton statement. “Hatton says I have an awkward style. But to me, awkward means unique. I have a unique style. I come in throwing punches from all angles. If I had to compare it to any fighters it would be Mike Tyson, Prince Naseem Hamed, and Roy Jones Jr.” When Karim’s trainer Ben Batista received a call from Robert Diaz, the Golden Boy Promotions matchmaker in request of Mayfield’s services in the Hatton camp, they were both excited and willing to take the opportunity. “I wanted to see if I could compete at the highest level,” Karim said. “I also wanted to train with one of the best fighters out there, Ricky Hatton. It was a tremendous honor.” The one week adventure started with a near bang but ended in a boxing culture shock. “My first day in Manchester, I almost got hit by a car crossing the street," Mayfield said. "I completely forgot that traffic in Europe goes in the opposite direction.” Unlike Floyd Mayweather Jr. who is notorious for treating his sparring partners like trash, Ricky Hatton did everything he could to make Karim Mayfield’s visit as comfortable as possible. “I felt like the Prince of England,” Karim said. “Hatton’s people treated us like royalty. They flew us out from San Francisco business class and took care of everything. They took care of the hotel, taxi, food, and also got us box seats to a Manchester soccer game. The Manchester soccer team signed their team flag and gave it to us. It was a great experience. Everyone there was really great.” Batista agreed but was also impressed with the boxing culture in England. “It was huge, you know," the trainer said. "Training with a world champion and being a part of the HBO 24/7 thing. Being around the Golden Boy people was a mega experience. They treated us royally in England. But one thing I realized about Manchester is that boxing is mega hot out there. In Manchester, they stay true to boxing. They have boxing in the school curriculum. I mean it is crazy. The top sport there is soccer then its boxing.” Batista continued with his assessment of the Manchester fight scene. “There are fighting gyms everywhere. It is a good feeling to know that I could pick up a newspaper and read about boxing. In England you can go into a super market and you will see Everlast clothes for sale and Lonsdale clothes for sale. In the United States, it is a shock to find any sports store carrying boxing gear. In America, you see wresting shoes before you see boxing shoes. Boxing is a culture in Manchester.” Aside from the royal treatment Ricky Hatton conveyed to them and the obvious difference in boxing popularity between England and the United States, both Ben Batista and Karim Mayfield were impressed with Ricky Hatton as a person and a fighter. “Ricky is a nice dude,” Batista said. “Real humble, but he is a beast in a ring. If he gets a hold of Floyd in that fight it is going to be a long day.” “Seeing how boxing is in England inspires me even more as a trainer. I want to go global with this thing (SFC)," said Batista, who is the owner and head trainer at the Straight Forward Boxing Club in San Francisco, Ca. His goal is to instill the sweet science of boxing into the minds of the inner city youth. Karim Mayfield and Ashante Jordan, who recently signed with Golden Boy, are his greatest prospects. “Karim Mayfield and Ashante Jordan are knocking down doors for San Francisco fighters. They are helping boxers in the Bay Area become recognized,” he said. Karim is not only the SFC’s hottest talent but he is also a contributing trainer. “I want all the kids from Fillmore and the rest of the Bay Area to know that I am willing to help," he said. "If anyone wants to come by the gym and train I am here for you.”

I got to them all already.

:rolleyes: body fat and natural weight are two totally different things you loser. 1) There's no such thing technically as a "natural weight". There's a weight range that is average for one's height, and then there's the outliners. There's an actual formula behind it and everything. Ricky is naturally more bulky though which makes him naturally more hefty (bigger). Mayweather's frame is designed for the lower weight classes. 2) You implied that Ricky had to put on weight to get to Welter Weight, when he's losing weight so please, saving face will do you no justice. Your incompetence was exposed.:)

Cotto is the only one that really "deserves" to fight Mayweather (although I'd love to see floyd fight them all, but that wont happen). Personally I do think Mayweather/Cotto will happen in '08. Floyd follows the money and I think Cotto is one of the few fighters left that can be a potential huge fight (as far as $$$ goes). Until he fights Cotto I don't see Gatti or Baldomir as accomplishments in the Welter division, DLH I give him mad props for but he hasn't done much outside of 130. 130 he was great, but outside of that he isn't doing shit.

You and other Floyd fans have said it yourselfs.. who is Hatton, who has he fought, he is a C class fighter. I like Hatton as a person but as an athlete I dont think hes that great. I laught at y'all who admit that a fighter is shit but then when he beats him its a great fucking victory. Beating Hatton proves more than beating any other fighter 154 or lower at the moment with the exception of Cotto. And that wasn't the case until he handled Mosley. So really what point are you trying to make? And you're right, most Floyd fans are going to say that Hatton is overrated, just like you keep trying to imply Floyd is overrated. Fans of one fighter are going to talk shit about other fighters. Thats just the way it is. You do the same damn thing.

You're such a genius.:rolleyes: Hatton ISN'T struggling to put on weight you creep, he's struggling to lose weight! You've proven MY point, not yours, weirdo. The stupidity on here is fucking overwhelming. :rolleyes: body fat and natural weight are two totally different things you loser.