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Taylor was basically shot when he fought abraham.. Pavlik was just a styles matchup... Taylor had a horrible habit of going straight back with his hands down.. Hopkins was able to capitalize sometimes but really didn't have the power to stop taylor.. Winky exploited it as well but didn't have the power either.. Pavlik had a nice long jab and possessed the power to hurt taylor... Taylor with his hands by his waist going backwards got wrecked by Pavlik.

Leonard has the better wins and names on his resume... Bradley, morales, Barrera are not on the level as Duran, Benitez, hearns, hagler

Damn, Pavlik went hard in the paint

Calzaghe and by a good margin Undefeated 20 title defenses Lineal champ in 2 different weight classes.. Cotto is like froch,, good wins, fought everyone, but was never the man in any division Hopkins Kessler bika lacy > Shane Judah Pauli

Co-Motherfuking sign bro. I hope he fights and defeats Bradley and Khan. Lol... How did that turn out

Prince was a better fighter and a much bigger draw... He was arguably one of the biggest stars in boxing in the late 90s but he got overshadowed by all the big stars like Tyson, oscar, evander, Lennox, oscar, Tito, Roy

Why would you count the same person multiple times and PAC Marquez 4wast at weight, clown. Because im talking about catchweight fights..... So i counted each fight that wasnt at a catchweight, hence why their are repeated fights.... I hope you can understand now, but highly unlikely.... What was pac-jmm 4 at.. I thought it was at 147 and not a catch???? Im not sure

pac still has more catchweight fights doe? Pac a smaller guy doe... Plus he has fought more hall of famers at their weight then floyd has Barrera twice Jmm 4 times Morales 3 times hatton sugar shane Thats 11 fights Floyd has Hernadez corrales Castillo twice Oscar Cotto Mosely Thats 7 by my counting and im not using gatti cuz he was the worst champ at 140 at the time, and im also not using diaz for manny for the same reason Im a fan of both but am not a delusional follower of either

What a retarded post, you counting each fight with the same guy. Yes, you are delusional Hey i usually count every time people fight.. How is that retarded Honestly you are too stupid to debate with... So manny gets no credit because he fought morales 3 times... Frazier beat ali the first time... DO you just count that and disregard the other 2 times they fought YOUR A TROLL

I think both have lived up to the hype... People think they are bums but they have held their own vs good competition... Both wont be p4p guys, but they are legit fighters, and not the bums alot of people think they are....

Hopkins is daddy to tito, tarver, pavlik, oscar, joppy, and glen johnson

I don't think Oscar took a dive, but rather looked for a way out of the fight.. He got dropped by the body shot, but the impending execution he was headed for made him say no mas and take the count

This is so funny,,,, a bunch of idiots,,,,,, if you think jmm was just going to get steamrolled,,, dude gets hit alot but he aint getting steamrolled,, especially by manny, a guy he had fought 2 other times and was not steamrolled..... fanboys at their worst...

I don't really like him or his team, but I will give him props,, having been praising him since he beat salido, and is currently #9 on my p4p list

Garcia is a way better technically solid fighter than gamboa,, gamboa keeps his chin out too much he only has a punchers chance vs garcia

it is easily roberto duran. how so??? yes duran had a great career but not as good as SRL SRL has victories over prime duran, hearns, benitez, and ayubule or whatever that jrmid champ name was, plus he ended hagler's reign at mw,, plus a gold medal.... I just dont see how duran's is better,,, longer yes, but better, no please explain your choice

Haggler fight with Duran was close, nobody can change that. Will say this Leonard waited until Hagler got old, Duran fought him inhis prime. SRL was old too, and past his prime,,, Hagler was still the undipsuted MW champ,,, your only old if you get beat,,, KT wasnt old when he ko'd shambra, but then hatton beats him next and he is old...

True, Duran had more longevity though. yes duran had much longer career,, dude fought in 5 decades, started in 68 and retired in 2001....... but he didnt have alot of quality wins after first srl fight,, probably 2,3 quality wins,,,,,

Moore Stopped Kalule after leonard and also beat Benitez and was a terrific fighter. Just because he was like 15-0 doesnt mean he wasnt good. He was the champ and Duran utterly destroyed him like those 2 guys didnt belong in the same ring. Iran just KOd Hearns who was a top P4P boxer and was massive compared to Duran. Both Duran and Leonard has very very similar fights against Hagler. The leonard fight gets so much more attention because leonard actually got the W but the duran fight was 4 years before that and just as close but Duran didnt win it. The W or L doesnt matter because Duran came just as close to beating hagler as leonard did i know the guys that duran beat at lw,, buchanon, dejesus, etc,,,,,, Not trying to say duran wasnt an ATG, he is,,,, i just think that SRL biggest wins, trump duran's biggest wins,,,, thats all,, plus he has a gold medal which always looks good on a resume,, just look at what it has done for zou shiming and lomacecko and rigo.... and yes maybe morales-maidana was a bad comparison, it is more in the league with duran-paz list duran's top 5 wins,,,,, and then list SRL top 5 wins,,,,, I have to give the edge to SRL But you make great points

This is an easy question... when you have wins over duran, hearns, benitez, hagler on your resume, plus a gold medal, you have the better resume SRL hands down

Can the guys picking duran, please explain,,,,, SRL has more great wins,,, duran, benitez, hearns, hagler duran has SRL, buchanon, barkley maybe,,,, then just alot of good wins but not great

in addition to the fights with which most of the forum is familiar, roberto duran is one of, if not the greatest LIGHTWEIGHT of all time. he had an ATG resume before he even fought ray leonard. one loss to esteban de jesus, a great LW, and it was over the limit and a non title fight. he avenged the loss twice by stoppage. he had the lineal title seven years, man, and he fought most of his contenders. he was regarded as a great and a legend already by the time he took on palomino, and later leonard at 147 for the title. he was a prolific weight climber AFTER a full, robust, hall of fame / atg run at 135, where he's not only got one of the greatest resume, but is a H2H nightmare with his power, chin, and skills. That's a great response,,, thank you for explaining your choice,,,, I still favor SRL just because of his greatest wins, trumps durans greatest wins.... Beating Benitez when he was a legit p4p 1 or 2 and beating the monster of undefeated hearns,,,, Those are 2 of the greatest wins ever,,, I do respect your opinion,, it was well-laid out,,, i guess we will just agree to disagree,,,

Its Duran. Leonard's resume is just like his style, flashy. Duran was way past his prime and way above his weight class and his fight with Hagler was just as close as leonard's. It was a 15 rounder and the last round literally gave Hagler the win. It was 4 years before Ray faced Hagler and gave him his toughest fight ever, breaking his 8 fight KO streak. Its not always about wins. No offense, but what is it about,,,, your acting like duran's greatest accompliments is fighting top guys very competitively,,,, Yes it shows that duran had great skill, and toughness... But doesnt make his resume any better,,, Morales did the same thing with maidana,,, but it really doesnt change morales legacy,, I still can t find the wins on durans resume that is better or equal to srl's victories over duran, benitez, hearns, hagler,,,,,, that a who's who of elite fighters of that era and SRL beat them all.... plus a gold medal, plus defeating undefeated kayuble for jrmid world title,,,, duran is best known as a great lightweight, and losing to all the fab four, and then fighting guys tough for the rest of his career like paz and camacho

Duran, because of the gift decisions leonard got away with especially vs hagler or the draw vs hearns. Leonard lost those fights. Duran was more impressive hagler-SRL could have gone either way,, I thought hagler gave away the first 4 rounds and that cost him the fight, and the hearns fight probably should have gone to hearns,,, but they were both past prime, so if your going to use that fight then why not duran getting beat by laing, paz, joppy, and camacho This is a question one would ask if they only recognize a few names and not know much or anything about the other fighters on their records especially Duran's and that those fighters do not solely define the record of Duran like they do with Leonard. Duran was a hall of famer and the GOAT at lightweight and fighter of the decade for the 70's before he ever even faced Ray. Both their fights against Hagler were equally as close but ray just has a W. Duran's loss to halger is greater then most fighters wins. Then he fought way above his weight and old against prime fighters and would win, just ask Davey Moore, Iran Barkley, Carlos Palomino, all excellent fighters. Yes duran was a kingpin at lightweight,, moore i dont thank was an excellent fighter, same for iran, good fighters but not excellent and palomina was a good win but on the same level as Kaybule win for SRL... SRL win over hagler was close but not a robbery, duran clearly lost to hagler in a tough competitive fight... Duran was great in the 70's but SRL had wins over Benitez when he was P4p 1 or 2, hearns when hearns was a prime monster,,,,, I still gotta favor SRL,,, he beat who's who of top elite ATGs in their prime, except for hagler who was faded alittle bit, but so was SRL coming off a huge layoff... Just my opinion,, thanks for the discussion Russian

Manny over MAB... Mab was a much better fighter than corrales.. Corrales had alot of problems leading up to that fight,,, MAB was at his peak, he had just defeated undefeated prince and undefeated morales,, He was the legit kingpin of the featherweight division A better win IMO

Shootout. Manny too much... way too much speed for prince, manny lands the left hand at will, drops prince about half a dozen times, prince's corner finally throws in the towel... Much like manny-Barrera 1, but more competitive, prince would land some bombs

Ha,, thats funny,,, mayorga looks just like manny's dad... WTF

Oscar was the man to beat at 154. At the time 154 was extremely weak with the likes of kassim ouma, that guy who beat ouma, mayorga, piccarilo, and oscar. Oscar beat the crap out of mayorga for a belt and would have beaten any of the other champs hence why people claimed him as the champ of 154. Floyd was p4p #1 and the legit lineal welter champ. He beat baldomir who beat judah who beat spinks who beat mayorga who beat forrest who was the man at welter. Everyone wanted to see that fight. Who the hell did canelo beat for his belt. That's right a vacant title against Matthew hatton. So dont talk trash about the oscar v floyd fight. Trout is canelo only legit title defense and he barely made it thru. If trout had any power he would have stopped canelo. Canelo did beat him fair and square but its not like Canelo is a dominant champ

Toney one his best night isn't good enough to beat a prime Roy.. Roy was just better and a higher caliber fighter than Toney or Hopkins,, Roy was a true ATG

He will retire as soon as anthony Joshua becomes the number 1 challenger