It seems like its Roy Jones history day so why not revist his biggest fight?
"At this time, most boxing magazines and writers had regarded Toney as the best pound per pound fighter in the world. He had become one of the most feared and intimidating fighters as well. James Toney had become somewhat of a throwback to the old time great fighters, as he fought often and was willing to take on the best regardless of weight class. At his best, Toney’s style was almost flawless. He was a smooth boxer/puncher who could adapt to any style. He could easily fight from the distance or on an inside battle. He was one of the best defensive specialists in the sport, in that he could slip and avoid punches in a way that resembled a young Roberto Duran. Toney seemed to have it all, power, speed, a solid chin, an outstanding defense and an aura that commanded respect. But his battle with weight had once again begun to take its toll. He would balloon to over 200 lbs between fights, which made it apparent that his days at the Super Middleweight limit were coming to an end. In fact Toney’s sights were now set on the Heavyweight division. However, after the Williams fight it was announced that Toney would next defend his title with a big money fight against Roy Jones.
Toney accepted the fight, believing that he would be able to make the 168lbs. limit one last time. The fight was set for November 18, 1994. Toney went into training camp for the Jones match a mere 6 weeks prior to the fight, weighing 214 lbs. By the day of the weigh-in Toney had stepped on the scale weighing a weak looking 167 lbs. He had lost 47 lbs in just 6 weeks. Toney was severely dehydrated and his camp knew it. After the weigh-in, Toney was hooked up to an I.V. in order to replace his body with fluids and he was kept on it all night until the next day of the fight. On fight day, just before entering the ring, Toney had weighed himself in the dressing room. It was reported that he weighed 186 lbs, which meant that he had gained an incredible 19 pounds in less than 24 hours. As Toney climbed into the ring and removed his robe, he revealed a soft looking body which lacked muscle tone. It became apparent that this was not the same fighter. In spite of the fact that Toney was so grossly out of shape, Jones still seemed content to fight a safe cautious fight. The result was a boring 12 round decision win for Jones. This became Toney’s first loss after 46 pro fights. After the fight, Toney admitted that he had been weakened by making the weight and stated that he would move up to the Light Heavyweight division."
http://lightsout10.tripod.com/toney_biography.htm
Toney one his best night isn't good enough to beat a prime Roy.. Roy was just better and a higher caliber fighter than Toney or Hopkins,, Roy was a true ATG
The Toney that fought Iran Barkley would come very close to beating Jones unlike weight drained version.
Yet the Barkley Toney beat dropped down from light heavy to lose to Toney. Barkley moved to crusier-heavyweight after that.
Roy Jones wanted Toney when Toney was middleweight king but Toney moved up rather than fight him.
Its not Joe Calzaghes fault that Roy Jones ducked him from 2000-2008. Roy fought zags when he did and lost.
jones ducked calzaghe?? lmfao calzaghe ducked all the great american fighters and stayed in the Uk fighting bums. ****in retarded casual lmao
It really is, as if its somehow Jones fault that Toney can't either control his diet or fight guys his own size.....its one or the other and Roy has nothing to do with either.
Totally legit, not controversial win in anyway for Jones.
Its not Joe Calzaghes fault that Roy Jones ducked him from 2000-2008. Roy fought zags when he did and lost.
Toney is a great fighter
Jones is a great fighter
Jones had a great win over Toney
Nothing to take away from that win - yes he was weakened but discredit that from toneys career not jones
Toney may have been weight drained but that is do to his conditioning and it was his responsibilty.
His biggest wins at supermiddleweight were over Iran Barkley and Charles Williams. Williams was a light heavyweight that starved himself to make 168 and Barkley had just won the WBA belt at 175 but fought as a cruiserweight before dropping all that weight to fight Toney as a supermiddleweight. Toney wouldn't say he beat those guys because they had to lose weight so it wouldn't be fair to say thats why he lost to Jones Jr.
You guys dont even know the half of it. Neither do the old articles that your reading...........Rockin':boxing:
Rockin',
It would be great if you could shed any further light on the situation.
I'm sure everyone would be interested and appreciative.
drh.
Toney regularly ballooned and lost weight, why does it make a difference against Jones compared to his 46 other wins?
The balloning and losing weight makes him vulnerable to fast athletic fighters same as Duran was against Leonard at Distance, Cooto against Pacquiao and Hatton against Mayweather. All of those fighters go up massively in weight between fights
Because it's a lame excuse.
He was so weight drained he put on one of his best performances ever (AT SUPER MIDDLE) only four months before he fought Jones.
According to you guys - in a span of four months - he went down to 168, up to 214, then back down to 168.
Right.
This is James Toney we're talking about. He ALWAYS had weight issues. It was only an excuse when he got his ass kicked. This is the same James Toney who ballooned to 230lbs a year before fighting Jirov and then sucked himself down to 190. I suppose if he lost then it would've been an excuse too.
Damn straight. Toney never had any discipline with his weight. Roy was simply better, no excuse.
Roy Jones is simply on another level to James "fat" Toney.
Don't get me wrong,Toney was good.but he was simply inferior to Roy Jones Jr. in almost every way.
Toney's apologists will continue to excuse their hero's loss to the superior Roy Jones by claiming that he was a walking corpse come fight time.
The irony is Toney's performance against Iran barkley,which is widely regarded as being his greatest ever, came against a barkley that was reported to having major issues with making the weight himself.Not to mention the fact that barkley was quite a few years past it himself.
Tobey should've fought roy at 168. he would have had a better chance to win.
James Slater is a buddy of mine. Many years ago we began writing on the same little known website that jumpstarted our careers.
However, this tells us NOTHING WE DON'T KNOW. Yes, he had weight issues. He had them in EVERY FIGHT OF HIS CAREER. It was only a problem when he lost to Jones. Gee, I wonder why?
I love that the article says James had his sights set on Heavyweight!
LOL! James' stomach had its sights set on HW!
Roy Jones is simply on another level to James "fat" Toney.
Don't get me wrong,Toney was good.but he was simply inferior to Roy Jones Jr. in almost every way.
Toney's apologists will continue to excuse their hero's loss to the superior Roy Jones by claiming that he was a walking corpse come fight time.
The irony is Toney's performance against Iran barkley,which is widely regarded as being his greatest ever, came against a barkley that was reported to having major issues with making the weight himself.Not to mention the fact that barkley was quite a few years past it himself.
Toney once he had a little control from his manager became a lil un-deciplined. He is a student of the game but has had weight issues. That was a huge fight and he is a pro and should had trained properly. There is no excuses, then he shouldn't had taken the fight or made up some catch weight.
These two guys really didn't like each other at the time which should had motivated him more to train. Roy showed up to fight and outboxed him. Even Jones said in the end of the fight that Toney had a great chin and had to box him. Toney bad trainning habits continued to show up after that fight
'weight drained' for me is the worst excuse in the book.
i'm not saying he wasn't weakened, but his preparation was in his own hands..don't use it an exscuse.
BURGER KING!
If Toney felt making weight would be a major problem for him, then he shouldn't have taken the fight. Plain and simple.
why take a fight at 168 when your at 214 pounds?