No one in their right mind would say floyd is better than Pac after cotto turned his face into a bloody mess and cotto has laughably slow handspeed and power compared to Pac
L M F A O...I guess Cotto, Clottey and Marg are speed demons then cuz they all tagged Pac more than they should have!!
Broke foot...EXTREME!!! Wheelchair...EXTREME!!! But in Bradleys defense, I play a lot of bball, I have tweeked my ankle a million times and twisted it about the same so my pain tolerance is pretty high...even tho I'm not limping all over the place there has been plenty of times where people still thought I was fast or jumping pretty good but inside it was bothering the ***** outta me...just saying.
If I can push thru the pain I know a pro boxer can...the broke foot ish was a joke tho!!
I'm a big fan of Floyd and a fan of Wlad...I see the angle you're getting at but Floyd is far more versatile. I have no problem with their styles but I do wish they were a little more aggressive when it came to creating a KO and not waiting for mistakes to be made and capitalizing.
I agree...I was a HUGE Tito fan and I was hoping he knocked BHOPs head off!!! With him being the underdog mixed in with the 9/11 attack...his emotions had to be at an all time high!!!
PRETTY BOY...without his rants!!! Being able to stand in the pocket and hit but not get hit is one of the most incredible thing you can see/do IMO.
I love Pacs style too but when I watch fights, I put myself in those guys shoes and being bloody and cut doesn't sound appealing to me and Pac gets hit way more.
And on top of it all...Floyds skills are just flat out better!!!!:grouphug:
All Manny has to do is throw 70 punches a round and he'll win by UD. Floyd's doesn't throw enough punches, people say he is in great shape which I'm sure he is but if you only throw 40-50 punches a round and stand in the pocket its pretty easy to keep your stamina. Even if Floyd lands 50% and Manny lands 30% of his punches but throws more than Floyd Manny will win off of nothing more than activity.
Manny will be able to take Floyds shots if he can take Cotto and Marg's shots. He never takes a break during the rounds and his head movement won't allow Floyd to land at will like it did against Marquez, Hatton and Mosley as neither of guys fight anything like Manny. Floyds only chance to win a fight against Manny IMO is a KO.
It's funny how u guys can say manny doesn't fight like this guy or that guy but make it seem like Floyd does...f'n retarded!!! U guys complain about him boxing and getting out the way but when he goes toe to toe then his legs are gone...wtf???
And if Floyd does hit hard then why does EVERY opponents punch numbers dramatically drop??? There's nothing that any of mannys past opponents do better than Floyd except maybe hit a little harder but their set up and angles are totally different from Floyd's!!
Manny can't be hurt by floyd...LOL gtfoh!!! U guys better hope his legs are gone (there not) or you'll see a clinic with manny having a few good moments that's about it!!!
Floyd has a slew of potential opponents to face...obviously he gets his money regardless so its very smart for him to try and get his fighter a big name fighter!!!!
Just because Floyd said he'd fight Khan doesn't mean that Khan vs Vargas isn't a good move to pull for his Promotional company. Khan beats Vargas = money for Floyd and his fighter on a big stage.
seen that a million times...they werent the official judges and everyone is entitled to thier own opinion...
I hope you feel the same way about Floyd vs Castillo or is that different for some strange reason?!
Yes you can, but I was reading a thread with some people getting very excited over Floyds 6 titles and being a 5 weight world champ.
Armstrong 3 weight world titles >>>>>>> Floyd's 5 weight world titles.
No where near the excitement about Pacs "8" titles!!! Since Pac has "the most" titles the thread fits him better IMO.
Mayweather looked old and desperate in that gym. I honestly can see he is scared and kind of disoriented. He sets up training at midnight, looks all confused and worried and then he's running down the street in his boxers at 2AM rambling about how his father.
Honestly I'm not even interested in seeing Mayweather in a ring with Pacquiao, he would literally get Hatton'd.
Lol I see your reaching for sh!t ma man...Mayweathers regimen is always sporadic, his team is on call 24/7...and WTF does he need to be scared about and what did he do that makes him look scared???
Since u don't like the guy, how bout ignoring him?!
I blame hbo more than the fighters on this one but they are over doing the Victor Ortiz back story. I think they should show more sparring and a lil more sparring partner interviews.
Yup. and i laughed my ass off. It looked like HBo was questioning him.
It was like a a guy in a dress calling someoen gay, then the camera pans out and shows teh dude's in a dress.. like " Look who's talking!, you got some nerve"
Wearing tights while running doesn't mean anything retards...is DWade questionable bcuz he wears tights under his jersey? Once again u clowns are reaching for sh!t!!!
Yeah right Marquez, u one of my favorite fighters but Floyd didn't run against u...he actually took it easy on u!! With the size advantage he had, he didn't use it. It's funny how people still said he ran against Mosley too.
It's funny how people keep thinking.g Floyd is the same fighter from early 2000...he's showed us everything possible except a lot of combos and KO's...inside, outside, jabs and defense while still pressing the fight! No one Pac opponent had defense except Clotty...Floyd throws his shots and 99.9% of the time he's ready for something coming back...Pac hasn't seen that since Marquez. How is it so easy for people to say a fighter has gotten so much better but that never applies for Floyd? He much be damn good if he reached his peak 10yrs ago and we're still wondering what style can beat him!!
Similar to the Floyd situation when he was calling Oscar and Shane out. I remember hearing JMM name but didn't hear of any big fights he had or was having at the time. I feel JMM got the "red headed step child" treatment from EM, MAB and Naz. Very hard for me to believe he ducked anybody himself...maybe it was bad advice for someone in his camp!!:dunno:
it's true, but it's a snitch move to talk about another man's problems when you are being questioned about your own.
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chuuurch!!!!
I guess you're only respected if you let others call shots for u while ending up with speech problems.
I can hear them now...this f'n guy, who does he think he is? Never cut or bloodied up, making tons of money, undefeated and actually thinks inside the ring while spanking people!!! I know...let's just call him names and remind the world of who he should of fought while not holding other to those same standards!!!
Damn u Floyd...why can't we get u to do what WE want?! Just lose one time and we'll forgive u!!
floyd almost KO oscar with pillows gloves...
I don't think I've heard one person give Floyd credit for buckling Oscar...if it was the other way around people would throw that up every chance they get!! I've hear things so crazy and outlandish like "Hatton ROCKED Floyd" LMFAO...SERIOUSLY!!!
Now people are here trying to give "insert fighter" the next guys style just to beat him...well, hypothetically give whatever fighting style to who ever u want, I'ma give Floyd his 130 fighting style back at 147...deal with that!!!
"GOAT?..Mayweather most Overrated Boxer in History"
Lol fu@kin HATERS...I guess Lennox is over rated since he had a bad night again Rahman...everything he did up until that point means absolutely nothing because he lost right?!
All this "duck" talk is getting annoying...if u break down every single fighter in history, there will be a story of who they didn't fight, they waited for this guy to slow down or move out the division blah blah blah!!! If there's 5 good guys and a fighter fights 3 out of those 5...he'll be called a duck no matter if that fighter moved on to bigger and better fighters.
Instead of sitting behind a keyboard talking ish about Pro fighters, why don't u guys go train, turn pro and show us how its supposed to be done?! Funny how people can tell u how to do it when they never was even close to putting their health on the line for someone else's entertainment.
I told yall that as the fight grew near more people would favor Victor. Now do yall believe me. Its sad to see so many doubt Mayweathers superiority in the game. His hard work and dedication to perform at 110% every fight is unmatched. Hes always in tip top shape. Many say that Mayweather does not punish his opponants or damage them, I have to laugh at this. Mayweather does more damage to his opponants than any fighter in recent history. Boxing is 90% mental, and Mayweather cripples all of his opponants mentally by the middle rounds with pure skill.
To be ko'ed means you got caught with a punch that stopped you, it leaves room for alot of excuses. Many say it was a lucky punch, some say you diddnt train right, or that you underestimated your opponant. When someone out boxes you for 12 rounds, the way Mayweather does it, it makes you feel dumb,slow,and foolish. It opens your eyes to reveal your place on the natural talent scale. You realized first hand that you are no where near the best, and it makes you doubt yourself and everything you do.
Those questions in your head play tricks on you over and over as you re-live that beatdown in your mind over and over. This is why most fighters who suffer beat downs from superior boxers never regain their status previously held. Just think about, george forman vs Ali, Mike tyson vs Douglas, B-hop vs Trinandad, Ray leonard vs Duran, Mayweather vs Gotti, Calzagy vs Jeff lacy, etc etc you get the picture. Those type of beatings are devastating. They live the rest of thier lives dreaming about that embarrassing ass whipping they suffered in front of the world on t.v. I think if Mayweather of old shows up, Vic will be in for a long slow beating that could very well result in a TKO.
I totally agree...when u get beat over 12rds that shows who the dominant fighter is/was. U had a whole fight to implement ur game plans and make adjustments. I argue with friends and brothers all the time about which is worst...a KO or a 12rd butt kickin, anybody can get caught by a lesser fighter (Lennox vs Rahman) but its very very very rare to see the better fighter out boxed for 12rds.
I would be VERY surprised if Floyd loses...the lay off could rear its ugly head but I hope/doubt it will and even if it does, I won't use that as an excuse bcuz it was Floyd's choice. With that said, if everything is clicking for both fighters I believe whole heartedly that Floyd will box the ish out Ortiz with Ortiz having a moment or two based on young and being so big...nothing more!! And that's not bcuz I think very low of Ortiz...I just think that high of floyd (in the ring).
It has to start somewhere. Two of the biggest fighters in the game can lead by example by embracing it... But no, you choose to support the fighter giving the finger to it.
If this is really how you feel why not support the idea that a fighter is proposing.
Look past your hate for floyd and support ost for what it is. Not for who is requesting it.
I dont think you will though.
^^^^^GREAT POST!!!! I honestly believe its more about who's requesting the testing than anything else...the hatred for Floyd blinds common logic in most.