If ortiz beats Floyd brutally, is it upset of the year?

The winner better not duck King Khan Joke of the decade right there!

LMAO Larry is off the hook today

All the Floyd haters being exposed. I wonder if they realize they are full of **** or if they fool themselves into they own ****.

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a young prime lion ..beating a 34 year old legend that hasn't fought in 15 months? it isn't the upset of the century lol...... I think JMM beating Pacquiao is a bigger upset tbh. everyone is really overlooking Ortiz Maniac, you kool as hell, but I'm a realist. IMO Marquez has 0 chance of beating Pacman. Matter of fact if Pacman doesn't stop him, he should just shoot himself bro. We're talking about a Marquez that's been hurt in every fight he's had at lightweight vs a Pacman that drapes up welterweights. We're talking about a Marquez that looked like ***** the last time he visited welterweight. Which is exactly the reason this fight was made there. Every single card is in Pacman's favor. This fight shouldn't have even been allowed. It's the 3rd ppv travesty in a row for Pacman. lol....................

Well, to be fair to the TS this ain't even about which is the bigger upset JMM3 or Ortiz/PBF... It's all about the Ortiz/Floyd fight, which is clear in the first post. :-) I thought that was the whole point of the argument...

Well, to be fair to the TS this ain't even about which is the bigger upset JMM3 or Ortiz/PBF... It's all about the Ortiz/Floyd fight, which is clear in the first post. :-) Well actually you are entirely right.

So, let me get this right...You think Manny fighting a 38 year-old 130lb fighter at welterweight is a bigger threat than a 24 year-old welterweight champion with KO power in both hands. I think Marquez is one hell of a fighter, my second favorite to Mayweather, actually. But, he just doesn't stand a chance at welterweight at his age and deteriorating physical tools, that fight should have happened years ago. JMM at 144 will wipe the floor with that quitting Ortiz... JMM got outboxed by Floyd at 147, Ortiz outwilled an overhyped Berto at 146. JMM might not have a great chance against Manny and Floyd at 144-147, but will surely make Ortiz his b!tch any day of the week.

Well, to be fair to the TS this ain't even about which is the bigger upset JMM3 or Ortiz/PBF... It's all about the Ortiz/Floyd fight, which is clear in the first post. :-) i guess....

I don't even consider the fight legit that's why. Can you understand that? Your arguing about why it wouldn't be a bigger upset to me. Because it's a useless garbage worthless fight, it's very simple. dude , the bigger question is "can you understand yourself?"... do you atelast realise you are contradicting yourself ?.....coz if you dont, seek help brother, thats real talk...

LOL....i missed that one....that does'nt even make sense.......either he is confused or not thinking about what he is sayin or someting else much worse..Well, to be fair to the TS this ain't even about which is the bigger upset JMM3 or Ortiz/PBF... It's all about the Ortiz/Floyd fight, which is clear in the first post. :-)

I would be VERY surprised if Floyd loses...the lay off could rear its ugly head but I hope/doubt it will and even if it does, I won't use that as an excuse bcuz it was Floyd's choice. With that said, if everything is clicking for both fighters I believe whole heartedly that Floyd will box the ish out Ortiz with Ortiz having a moment or two based on young and being so big...nothing more!! And that's not bcuz I think very low of Ortiz...I just think that high of floyd (in the ring).

we all get what you sayin but we all know your making yourself look like a fool right now contracdting yourself.... you dont take pac vs jmm seriously, becuase it is a mismatch , everything is in pac's favor, pac is taking advantge of him, jmm is old , he aint got no shot at winning at all etcetera etcetera... so why the hell is it not a bigger upset if the OLD MAN, who got hurt in 3 of his last fights and cant fight at ww, wins?...... I don't even consider the fight legit that's why. Can you understand that? Your arguing about why it wouldn't be a bigger upset to me. Because it's a useless garbage worthless fight, it's very simple.

You don't even have to mention the Pac/JMM 3. He still thinks it's an upset if Ortiz beats PBF. Which is inconsistent to his claims of an evenly-matched fight. The guy is simply confused. :-) LOL....i missed that one....that does'nt even make sense.......either he is confused or not thinking about what he is sayin or someting else much worse..

It depends. With the manny fight the deck has been stacked against Marquez but the floyd fight seems like another walk in the park for floyd. Its the lay off that adds a different dynamic. I would say the ortiz/ floyd only because floyd is giving off this illusion of invincibiliy.

Lets try this again Puga. I do not even take the Pacman-Marquez farce seriously. I equate it to something like sponge bob or something. Something that my baby the 1 in my avy will take seriously, but not me. An utter waste of anyones 60 bucks, toal garbage. All I know is that if ur a fan of pacman talking about cherrypicking your nerves are bigger than your idols, kick rocks. we all get what you sayin but we all know your making yourself look like a fool right now contracdting yourself.... you dont take pac vs jmm seriously, becuase it is a mismatch , everything is in pac's favor, pac is taking advantge of him, jmm is old , he aint got no shot at winning at all etcetera etcetera... so why the hell is it not a bigger upset if the OLD MAN, who got hurt in 3 of his last fights and cant fight at ww, wins?......

So, let me get this right...You think Manny fighting a 38 year-old 130lb fighter at welterweight is a bigger threat than a 24 year-old welterweight champion with KO power in both hands. I think Marquez is one hell of a fighter, my second favorite to Mayweather, actually. But, he just doesn't stand a chance at welterweight at his age and deteriorating physical tools, that fight should have happened years ago. true to an extent but the majority of posters on here seem to forget who he was fighting that night. not only is mayweather technically gifted, he is also physically much bigger than marquez. pacquiao and marquez size difference aint as big as mayweather and marquez so it should be more competitive.

i think he is.....prolly just realized he just owned himself in his own thread......i mean cmon, he says jmm has no chance to win and that oriz has a better shot at beating floyd, ...how the hell is jmm beating pacquaio not bigger upset then?...lol. nah mean... You don't even have to mention the Pac/JMM 3. He still thinks it's an upset if Ortiz beats PBF. Which is inconsistent to his claims of an evenly-matched fight. The guy is simply confused. :-)