2 of my 3 favorite active fighters and to me they have several similarities. Both are just dominant, both have styles that highlight their dominance and arent necessarily flashy, but incredibly impressive to boxing fans. Both have arch rivals who are ducking bit(*&S but Wlad finally got to his and beat him. Both come from boxing families and have a great amateur pedigree. Pretty much if youre a fan of dominant, proficient boxing I think you should be a fan of each. They both also make a ton of money, have a ton of confidence in and out of the ring and both do things pretty much on their own terms.
bottom line....I think the Wlad fans don't like Floyd as a PERSON....and the Floyd fans don't like Wlad as a FIGHTER/BOXER :boxing:
I don't like either of them for those exact two reasons. On the flip side though, I fully respect Floyd in the ring and Wlad outside of it. Go figure! :dunno:
BOTH bases are LEGIT....those bases ride hard for their dudes....but it's my duty to keep it 100....Floyd's base is like the united nations...dudes from all over...all cultures...all races....Wlad's base is not so...for whatever reason, I can't call it....I support Wlad over EVERY HW in the game ...thats my dude!!
bottom line....I think the Wlad fans don't like Floyd as a PERSON....and the Floyd fans don't like Wlad as a FIGHTER/BOXER :boxing:
Quite a fall from that pedestal you have been on.
What's it like down there?
And exactly what in the flying **** is wrong with this now?
It's neither racist nor is it sexist. It's my fair opinion on how girls in london fares up compared to the rest of the world. It's a direct answer to a simple question.
At no point do i state that females are lesser because of their gender nor do i state that their looks have anything to do with their capabilities.
And even if i am being sexist or racist in a comment, does that reflect on my ideologies in total?
I can find a lot of posts I've made on boxingscene that were made to have a laugh, but could be construed as racist. No big deal, everyone can joke around on the internet.
It's funny to me that you try to stick these things on me, probably because I've put you down verbally before, yet keep failing time and time again. I'll soon have to give you some borderline racist/sexist posts I've made so you atleast won't look like a full blown retard.
Be honest, do you have asperger?
on this board, it would seem like many of the most vocal floyd fans tend to be somewhat racist, and likewise with the klitschko fans that are most vocal.
weird.
I'm a big fan of both the K brothers and floyd. But then again, i don't consider myself a retarded racist.
no theres lots of hot UK girls. They have a very diverse ethnic composition, and the pale freckled uggos with bad teeth don't show the entire picture.
If not for immigration, they would rank quite low. Imo.
Quite a fall from that pedestal you have been on.
What's it like down there?
stop being a sarcastic little bastard, thank you.
this is what you said.
how are they quite similar, to the point that you feel like mocking me for saying they are nothing alike other than being safety first fighter who utilizes their jab?
This is a forum for debate, but you don't seem interested in that the least.
If you fail to understand people calling asians midgets, dog eaters, yellow cunts etc, monkeys, crackers etc as racist then fine. I don't really care if people are racists on this board, I'll just ignore them.
As for trolls, well I'll let your posts speak for themselves.
As for the comparison between Wlad (or vitali) and Floyd, i don't see them as similar at all.
Wlad fights tall, uses his jab to plod along and throws in the occasional right cross and left hook. Most often does not counter-punch at all.
Floyd fights out of a completely different stance, the philly shell, uses his jab well but often prefers to go with a lead right hand, check hook or pullcounters etc. A true counter puncher.
As for their defense, It's like night and day. Nothing a like there either.
I hate being wrong, so if you or anyone else can correct my views and make me "right", I'm very happy about that. Just spare me the sarcastic trolling thanks.
Great review of how both boxers fight, totally agree.
Green K
This place is full of trolls and racist, I don't know how you cope.
Sorry if I wasn't clear before, but it must be my fault if you confused me saying their styles are nothing alike, to mean they are alike.
Apologies.
stop being a sarcastic little bastard, thank you.
Did you see Mayweather vs Baldomir, that was jab.....jab......jab.....jab.... jab....jab......jab.....jab....jab.. righthand.
So you see they are quite similar.
Made Wlad look like Ali that night.
this is what you said.
how are they quite similar, to the point that you feel like mocking me for saying they are nothing alike other than being safety first fighter who utilizes their jab?
This is a forum for debate, but you don't seem interested in that the least.
If you fail to understand people calling asians midgets, dog eaters, yellow cunts etc, monkeys, crackers etc as racist then fine. I don't really care if people are racists on this board, I'll just ignore them.
As for trolls, well I'll let your posts speak for themselves.
As for the comparison between Wlad (or vitali) and Floyd, i don't see them as similar at all.
Wlad fights tall, uses his jab to plod along and throws in the occasional right cross and left hook. Most often does not counter-punch at all.
Floyd fights out of a completely different stance, the philly shell, uses his jab well but often prefers to go with a lead right hand, check hook or pullcounters etc. A true counter puncher.
As for their defense, It's like night and day. Nothing a like there either.
I hate being wrong, so if you or anyone else can correct my views and make me "right", I'm very happy about that. Just spare me the sarcastic trolling thanks.
Maybe you could tell me how they are alike other than that they are safety first?
They use their jab?
Every defensive fighter who uses a jab are alike? Ok then.
not really aimed at you ray, rather the troll that states jabs don't count when speaking of accuracy.
This place is full of trolls and racist, I don't know how you cope.
Sorry if I wasn't clear before, but it must be my fault if you confused me saying their styles are nothing alike, to mean they are alike.
Apologies.
They fight nothing alike, there both safety first, don't take any chance, but there style are very different
Ask the Great Harry Balls, he will tell you.
:boxing::boxing::sad6:
Maybe you could tell me how they are alike other than that they are safety first?
They use their jab?
Every defensive fighter who uses a jab are alike? Ok then.
not really aimed at you ray, rather the troll that states jabs don't count when speaking of accuracy.
They fight nothing alike, there both safety first, don't take any chance, but there style are very different
Ask the Great Harry Balls, he will tell you.
:boxing::boxing::sad6:
Funny enough i have seen more Floyd fans who actually back and appreciate Wlad because he fights a bit similar to Wlad, But i havent seen any Wlad fans who appreciate or back Mayweather, You have Tunney and his cronies who constantly bash Mayweather even though wlad fights in a similar way to him...oh well
They fight nothing alike, there both safety first, don't take any chance, but there style are very different
Ask the Great Harry Balls, he will tell you.
Funny enough i have seen more Floyd fans who actually back and appreciate Wlad because he fights a bit similar to Wlad, But i havent seen any Wlad fans who appreciate or back Mayweather, You have Tunney and his cronies who constantly bash Mayweather even though wlad fights in a similar way to him...oh well
Which one is the most boring fight?
Both fights where the only one going to sleep is you.
Which one is more boring?
I challenge anyone to watch these fights back to back and not lose conciousness.
WARNING DO NOT WATCH THESE FIGHTS IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE OR OPERATE HEAVY MACHINERY LATER TODAY
floyd puts his skills on display that leave you in awe
wlad uses takes on more of a cowardly strategic approach which bores the sht outta people esspecially when that approach consists of only 2 punches(one of which is seldom seen) and grabbing
Yes I will go away and study, oh wise and perfect one, maybe you will go out today and feed the homeless, teach the local kids what is right and wrong and rescue a cat that was stuck up a tree.
As always i find it strangely fascinating you almost never have anything worthwhile to say, so you end up spouting nonsense.
You are like a self glorified troll.
Again are you serious? Because i find racism retarded and because i don't label myself a racist, I'm putting myself up on a pedestal. How?
You seem to just spout of nonsense for no reason.
Of course not. Theres a bunch of anti-mayweather and anti-wlad that are not the least bit racist.
I was talking about a large portion of the klitschko fanatics and the "flomos" that are most vocal.
Same goes for quite a few pac fans with their "monkey this, monkey that".
You really need to learn some reading comprehension, because you obviously do not understand what i write, and instead draw your own conclusions.
Yes I will go away and study, oh wise and perfect one, maybe you will go out today and feed the homeless, teach the local kids what is right and wrong and rescue a cat that was stuck up a tree.
Did you see Mayweather vs Baldomir, that was jab.....jab......jab.....jab.... jab....jab......jab.....jab....jab.. righthand.
So you see they are quite similar.
Made Wlad look like Ali that night.
they are not similar at all other than they are safety first fighters.
Thats why i find it hypocritical that either side would accuse the other of being safety first.
You can't compare the guys style. Wlads is a excellent fighter but is a very one dimensional. In all of his fights almost the only thing he does is throw a couple of jabs per round a occasionally sneaks in a right hand and once in every 5 fights a left hook. He were the much smaller/fat opponents down until he stops them in the later rounds. Floyd is a brilliant defensive fighter and counter puncher that stands his ground and picks you apart. Floyd's main problem is that he isn't a good finisher and he lacks aggression. In many of his fights his opponents stop fighting cuz of the PBF counter-punching. SO both guys are boring in different ways. Wlad is so repetitive in his fights. jab jab jab jab...... righthand jab jab jab jab jab righthand jab jab jab jab jab jab
Did you see Mayweather vs Baldomir, that was jab.....jab......jab.....jab.... jab....jab......jab.....jab....jab.. righthand.
So you see they are quite similar.
Made Wlad look like Ali that night.
Yes sorry, I'm not worthy like everyone else on this site, to question you, because you are so perfect and incapable of any wrong doing.
Again are you serious? Because i find racism retarded and because i don't label myself a racist, I'm putting myself up on a pedestal. How?
You seem to just spout of nonsense for no reason.
And if anyone make a critique of Mayweather or Wlad they must be a racist because how can you be critical of them.
Of course not. Theres a bunch of anti-mayweather and anti-wlad that are not the least bit racist.
I was talking about a large portion of the klitschko fanatics and the "flomos" that are most vocal.
Same goes for quite a few pac fans with their "monkey this, monkey that".
You really need to learn some reading comprehension, because you obviously do not understand what i write, and instead draw your own conclusions.
You can't compare the guys style. Wlads is a excellent fighter but is a very one dimensional. In all of his fights almost the only thing he does is throw a couple of jabs per round a occasionally sneaks in a right hand and once in every 5 fights a left hook. He were the much smaller/fat opponents down until he stops them in the later rounds. Floyd is a brilliant defensive fighter and counter puncher that stands his ground and picks you apart. Floyd's main problem is that he isn't a good finisher and he lacks aggression. In many of his fights his opponents stop fighting cuz of the PBF counter-punching. SO both guys are boring in different ways. Wlad is so repetitive in his fights. jab jab jab jab...... righthand jab jab jab jab jab righthand jab jab jab jab jab jab
Yes, because i don't label myself a racist, I'm up on a pedestal. Are you serious?
Stop taking jabs at me, because they don't count.
Yes sorry, I'm not worthy like everyone else on this site, to question you, because you are so perfect and incapable of any wrong doing.
And if anyone make a critique of Mayweather or Wlad they must be a racist because how can you be critical of them.