My main thesis was that Usyk performance strongly depends on whether he is trained by Lomachenko farther. I think that this is the main factors explaining the differences in his different fights
Usyk performs great only when he is trained for fight with Anatoly Lomachenko, the farther of Vasyl Lomachenko. Anatoly train him only for top-level fights, so for top fights Usyk looks phenomenal, and for other fights he looks very beatable.
Also don't know if Anatoly will train him in the future, after Usyk got all polytical. I think that could have benn hurt their relationships.
Yes, I think that this greatly affects him as a boxer. Moreover I think that this is a prime reason of his inability to learn and execute a proper boxing technique. He lacks strength in legs, because of it his legs are always tense in order to compensate the lack of strength. And you can't have a proper boxing technique if your legs are always tense. Moreover, he compensates his lack of strenght by using in the footwork such muscles which are not meant to be used in it. So this also makes his technique awkward.
So I think that in order to have a proper technique it is necessary to work a lot on a strength of his legs.
The hate is well deserved, Teo is acting like a p4p halloffame monemayker diva while he is never anything close to that status. The dude got couple of good wins and went over the clouds with his ego. Not to mention his dad who thinks that he is both a latino gangster and a master trainer of boxing, but in reality he is just a drug addicted bum punk.
Even in later rounds he looked much slower in my opinion. His feet looked slow, especially. He wouldnt have been so great if always had such slow footwork.
Lol..... searched for whether there were threads on Pacquiao's rank as an ATG and got this gem. This was just after the Pac/Hatton fight. Almost 50% said top 10 looooooool
Why can't we put Pac n top 10?
It's laughable, the whole notion Floyd dominated, only people with an agenda say this(Pac haters, Floyd diehards).
It's very bemusing, British commentators after the 3rd Marquez fight harped on about "Manny vision" giving Manny too much credit for minor things and overplaying his performances, but we're seeing the exact same thing with Floyd. Manny has to fight a certain way, set a certain pace, and if he isn't it's because Floyd is making him fight at that pace, it can't be that Manny planned to fight that way could it? "Manny has to throw more punches, do this do that, it's one of Floyd's easiest fights" :thinking: But what is Floyd doing? don't you win fights by landing punches? :thinking: Oh that's right, he's "setting the pace" :lol1: just do the bare minimum, make sure the commentators are licking your arse, land the odd tapping right hand that will ensure you get the biased replay's during the break and the fight is yours. As song as the other guy doesn't badly hurt you or knock you down you win the round.
The highlights for the most impressive punches landed clearly favour Manny... and his defence is criminally underrated, CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED DEFENCE!
Yes!
When I watched the fight live on TV I saw most of rounds as extremelly close. Both guys landed very few punches, both landed flush, so it's hard to tell who got the round. And all my friends saw the same picture.
I'm from Russia, and russian commentator also noticed mainly Floyd successes, I don't
know why. Probably it's difficult to make comments and watch with attention at the same time. The same story was with a fight Mathysse Provodnikov. Our commentators missed many clear Ruslan punches, they talked only about Mathysse success.
And + for Manny's defence. When we saw Floyd's rights hand countered last time?
Maybe some people are still riding the high from Saturday night's fight,but I've seen more than a few fans on this site that honestly believe that canelo can pull off a win against golovkin. This has honestly left me puzzled as to how canelo could win that fight. If anyone has got a legitimate idea of how he'd beat ggg (which doesn't involve "oh,canelo has a better resume though") I'd really like to hear it and discuss it.
Canelo has fast hands and knows how to throw combinations. And GGG doesn't like fast combinations. Also the fight will be not at 160, so the power and pressure of GGG can decrease in the catchweight.
The key to beating GGG, is to go to his body. Too many fighters try to aim for his head and neglect his body, but Golovkin has an elusive head and a very strong chin as he showed in numerous fights. However, his body is always there to be hit.
When you go to his body you slow him down. Eastern Europeans and Soviet fighters generally do not like getting hit to the body, we saw Chillemba hurt Kovalev to the body and was able to make Kovalev gas out.
Brook needs to go to GGG's body EARLY, especially with hooks to the liver and kidney. Sap his energy. In the late rounds when GGG is tired, that's when you start attacking.
You are all wrong. Kovalev gassed out because he got ill during the training camp. Also Golovkin has much stronger and tougher body then Kovalev.
The keys to beating Golovkin are changing distances, going inside and throwing fast combinations. Golovkin very well defends from single punches but when his opponent throw fast combination he lands. Also he is mediocre in inside fighting.
1. Pacquiao.
Don't know he wasn't mentioned. He can attack, go on backfoot, counterpunch, etc. And he proved it with the elite of boxing.
2. Lomachenko
Dude can box with either style he wants. Th drawback is level of competition and absence of knockout punch.
3. Bradley.
This guy also can brawl, can counterpunch, can work from outside, can be inside fighter. The drawback is a lack of power.
4. Gamboa.
This guy is a little bit forgotten, but he also has a highest level of boxing, can do almost anything.
Ward won the last 6 rounds on the judges score cards. I think we have a way to see if this was truly a robbery:
The compubox stats for those 6 rounds. Are they out there?
If Ward won all 6 of the last 6 rounds, but Kovalev outlanded Ward in any, or a majority of those 6 rounds, and failed to get a SINGLE round, would you guys who think it's not quite a robbery, think it's more of a robbery?
I will admit this right here: As a fan of Kovalev, I had him winning comfortably, BUT if he failed to outland Ward for any of those 6 rounds, I'll admit it was closer then I first thought and Ward scoring those points is okay.
HOWEVER, if Kovalev out landed Ward for more then, what, like two of those rounds? I think I'd literally puke into this trashcan right next to me.
Where's the compubox stats??!!? This could end this debate.
Compubox stats aren't reliable source. This can only start the debate, not end
I've watched almost all of vitali's fights he never ever looked great, his brother was a much better fighter
Vitali may had an awkward technique, but he had an iron chin and the feeling of street fight inside him. Vitali could fight, Wladimir can only box.
Kovalev gets hit plenty of times, he has many defensive flaws, the same as GGG. The GGG-Brook fight was actually similar to Kovalev-Pascal fight, in a sense that the smaller boxer was hitting the stronger opponent with good punches but was in the end overwhelmed. Both GGG and Kovalev make up for their lack of defense with a great chin and amazing offense. But posters on here quick to diminish GGGs skills but have no problem with Kov doing the same thing, and they praise Kov. Also both dont have the best resumes, and Golovkin probably has a better chin p4p.
Kovalev is hittable but he doesn't get hit with such crazy number of punches. GGG can't fight on the backfeet, Kovalev can, that's the difference.
Betting. If you are good in analyzing boxers, you can predict a winner in most matches. Just don't forget that betting is not about winning or losing money on this current fight, but about how much money you will gain by the end of the long period. So you must also estimate chances of boxers, not only winner or loser.
3rd gif? Theres' two punches thrown.
Are you talking about the first one that slid off Ward's shoulder?
Or the one that Ward blocked?
Second one, it wasn't blocked
Yes, they were. How many fvcking times does your dumbazz need to be reminded that Dawson CHOSE to go to 168, he could've stayed at 175, he didn't. Kessler was trying to fight a polite fight with no inside fighting, and he wasn't ready for it...THAT is why he lost. You're not just a tool, you're the whole fuggin shed...stupid d1ck.
The fact that Dawson CHOSE to go to 168 doesn't make his shape on fight night any better. Yes, he chose to go down, so what? Nethertheless he was weight drained, period.
Why do people mention this like it was somehow Wards fault about what shape Dawson may have been in..It's each fighters responsibility to come in the fight the best way possible..That's the fight game,period....
Of course it wasn't Ward's fault, but let's not act like Ward beat top shape Dawson. It's not Ward's fault, but it is what it is - it was not a top win.
Isn't it hilarious that so many media clowns were speculating that PBC spent over $400 million in less than a year based on a stupid Reddit post.
Now this new lawsuit against W&R states that PBC was backed with not $500 million but $925 million!
The writing is on the wall, PBC is just getting started.
HBO Boxing is fading and will fade at an alarming pace with so many sub-par PPV events and mismatches.
PBS is destinied to die because of Haymon's attitude to boxing. PBC mainly consist of average-leveled black fighters, who fight once a year and have no ambitions besides "give me right money". These guys fight boring fights once a year and have no sports ego. So there is nothing in PBC to excite a boxing viewer for a long time.
And look at HBO. Thay have Kovalev, Ward, Lomachenko, Crawford - these are very skilled guys with SPORTS ambitions (not only financial). These guys want fight often and with good opposition.