The key to beating GGG, is to find his G-Spot, which is his Body. Too many fighters try to aim for his head and neglect his body, but Golovkin has an elusive head and a very strong chin as he showed in numerous fights. However, his body is always there to be hit.
When you go to his body you slow him down. Eastern Europeans and Soviet fighters generally do not like getting hit to the body, we saw Chillemba hurt Kovalev to the body and was able to make the unstoppable Krusher gas out.
Brook needs to go to GGG's body EARLY, especially with hooks to the liver and kidney. Sap his energy. In the late rounds when GGG is tired, that's when you start attacking.
The key to beating GGG, is to find his G-Spot, which is his Body. Too many fighters try to aim for his head and neglect his body, but Golovkin has an elusive head and a very strong chin as he showed in numerous fights. However, his body is always there to be hit.
When you go to his body you slow him down. Eastern Europeans and Soviet fighters generally do not like getting hit to the body, we saw Chillemba hurt Kovalev to the body and was able to make the unstoppable Krusher gas out.
Brook needs to go to GGG's body EARLY, especially with hooks to the liver and kidney. Sap his energy. In the late rounds when GGG is tired, that's when you start attacking.
Nah, he doesn't move his head well at all. He's there to be hit. He just seems to have a granite chin and people don't want to exchange too long with him.
you can fantasy all you want no middleweight can beat ggg if you want him to lose so you can have an orgasm you will probably have to wait till he goes up to 175
its just the truth, nobody at 168 outside of jacobs (who will most likely lose as well) is beating ggg
Not necessarily.... for example you can counter GG with a left hook to his body right when you block his own left hook to your body. Brook has the hand speed to do that. I noticed that when GGG throws his left hook downstairs he's very lethargic since he's putting so much into it. Also he often shells up when you get close to him and throw combinations. That's when you need to invest to his body.
You can fantasy all you want no Middleweight can beat GGG if you want him to lose so you can have an Orgasm you will probably have to wait till he goes up to 175
Something people are missing when talking about getting on the inside of Golovkin is what he does with his head when he doesn't want you there anymore. There's been a few guys who tried to get inside with him and tie him up. But that's where he lowers himself a little bit and puts his head under your chin (referring to the video of him teaching Sullivan to do this). They stopped trying to get inside on him because of that reason. It ****ed up what they were trying to do and made them really off balance. I don't think he's necessarily a bad inside fighter, he just doesn't care if he gets hit.
The thing is if you're on your toes pot-shotting him he's going to walk straight through you. 400 have already tried this & barely won a round between them.
That is what everyone tries to do yet any success that has came against him has been on the inside vs a guy fighting short that is sitting down on his punches. Ouma fight, rounds 4-5 vs Monroe
People sh*t on Monroe but at least that cat had a plan B, adjusted and went for broke. Yh he quit but he went for it and left it all there then got what was left knocked out of him. He got more done in 2 rounds than 25 of these guys have combined.
GGGs a two-handed puncher who constantly is on you, he's merely out of range a few inches & throws looping and wide shots it doesn't matter which way you circle especially if you're going to move bolt upright or be flicking out some weak ass jab.
He is always on you, constantly manuvering you there is nothing more exhausting mentally and physically and that is without him even landing.
I don't see it not saying a brilliant pure boxer couldn't there is always several ways to beat anybody but I don't think it's the best way of going about it. It plays to his strengths too much.
You'd think going to him would but he generates most power when pressing and not a lot of guys have had the balls let alone the skillset to attempt it.
Great post. Most of fighters are against him in full defensive mode circling around the ring, but they can't escape him that way because he's great at cutting off the ring. Monroe was successfuly doing for 2 rounds what Whitaker was doing against Chavez - keeping him off balance by changing angles instead of circling around the ring. Plus just like you said he was throwing fast combination at the same time, it's the other thing that he wasn't able to make him respect his power.
A pot shotter is not beating him. Someone that just wants to stick a jab out there, counter and tie up GGG is in for a brutal beating. It can be part of the plan, but it can't be the plan for 12 rounds. His style is literally built to destroy out fighters. The guy has a fantastic jab, his counter jab is off the charts, great at cutting the ring off and a vicious and committed body puncher. I just don't see how anyone can watch him fight and come to the conclusion that someone is going to pot shot him for 12 rounds. People bring up Willie, but where did Willie have success? Inside standing his ground. His moving around early in the fight was greeted with a nasty counter left hook that I still can't believe he got up from. Kudos to Willie for having a chin.
I think it is fairly obvious the type of fighter that can beat GGG and that is someone that can get inside, do work, turn him, jab on the way out and rinse and repeat. Yes he will have to outbox as well but that is more to keep GGG guessing so he can't just focus in on one thing. And the only proven guy that was near GGG's weight that could do that is Ward. Andrade I think has the style to give GGG a run, but he is'nt proven. Jacobs has a slight chance because he has legit power and can move fairly well, but he has no inside game to speak of. Canelo has a slight chance because he does have a decent inside game but he likes to take too much time off, but GGG won't allow him to take a breather and he is going to get ground down into a nub.
Good analysis. Personally I don't think there is anybody in the division that can beat him. Brook I believe has the most skill of all of them so it will be a good test for GGG. After I saw him dismantle Lemieux I'm convinced he will continue to dominate in the Division. Willie Monroe and Stevens both hit him with some good clean shots but he was unphased by them. Even when he was off balance at the moment Geale hit him clean he still countered with a knock out punch. I wish for someone to challenge him but so far nothing. Brook may be the one. We'll see.
A pot shotter is not beating him. Someone that just wants to stick a jab out there, counter and tie up GGG is in for a brutal beating. It can be part of the plan, but it can't be the plan for 12 rounds. His style is literally built to destroy out fighters. The guy has a fantastic jab, his counter jab is off the charts, great at cutting the ring off and a vicious and committed body puncher. I just don't see how anyone can watch him fight and come to the conclusion that someone is going to pot shot him for 12 rounds. People bring up Willie, but where did Willie have success? Inside standing his ground. His moving around early in the fight was greeted with a nasty counter left hook that I still can't believe he got up from. Kudos to Willie for having a chin.
I think it is fairly obvious the type of fighter that can beat GGG and that is someone that can get inside, do work, turn him, jab on the way out and rinse and repeat. Yes he will have to outbox as well but that is more to keep GGG guessing so he can't just focus in on one thing. And the only proven guy that was near GGG's weight that could do that is Ward. Andrade I think has the style to give GGG a run, but he is'nt proven. Jacobs has a slight chance because he has legit power and can move fairly well, but he has no inside game to speak of. Canelo has a slight chance because he does have a decent inside game but he likes to take too much time off, but GGG won't allow him to take a breather and he is going to get ground down into a nub.
He has been doing it for 20 years man, hundreds and hundreds of fights, all levels of opponent.
He is doing a lot in there without even throwing a punch, constantly manueovering his opponent. To keep moving away from him for 12 rounds would be exhausting and unrealistic.
They can run from Gennady for a round or two, but eventually it takes its toll and they get snapped. The guys who have the most success against Golovkin are those who stand close in front of him and fire back.
I didn't imply that they should run from him, but circling on the outside with good lateral movement and not let him corner you can help a lot against him.
While he has a nice footwork I doubt that Golovkin could corner for example Ward or Mayweather the same way as he cornered his opponents so far not only because those guys oppose a much higher challenge to him due to their superb skills but alo because they have also very good, imo better foortwork than Golovkin.
yeah but take his level of competition into consideration
Just because he could cut off the ring from C or maximum B level fighters doesn't mean that he could also do it to the Mayweathers, Wards and Crawfords of the world. (P4P wise of course).
He doesn't miss much because he is accurate but also because he only punches when his feet are set. If you don't let him set his feet he would have a hard time punching in the fly cause he isn't that fast and that's not natural to him.
So basically you have to be able to move laterally, potshot him on the outside, dominate his jab and when he gets too close you should slip even closer, clinch and fight in the clinch up close. Then push and start it again from the outside.
It's not impossible to beat a fighter with Golovkin's style but his weightclass is pretty empty let's be honest, so nobody could do what's needed to beat him. Cotto's steamroll over Geale really shows how weak that weightclass is. Geale was an established, career MW (ok...foughtthere from 2007 that's a long time) and Cotto wasn't a big guy even in 154. He still beat him the same way or maybe even more than Golovkin did. I'm not implying that Cotto would have beat GGG but it really show something.
He has been doing it for 20 years man, hundreds and hundreds of fights, all levels of opponent.
He is doing a lot in there without even throwing a punch, constantly manueovering his opponent. To keep moving away from him for 12 rounds would be exhausting and unrealistic.
They can run from Gennady for a round or two, but eventually it takes its toll and they get snapped. The guys who have the most success against Golovkin are those who stand close in front of him and fire back.
He's deadly accurate though, not much misses the target. It's also hard to defend against a guy whose footwork is able to the ring into a phonebooth.
Best way to beat him is imo up close, that's the only place I have seen fighters have any success against him.
yeah but take his level of competition into consideration
Just because he could cut off the ring from C or maximum B level fighters doesn't mean that he could also do it to the Mayweathers, Wards and Crawfords of the world. (P4P wise of course).
He doesn't miss much because he is accurate but also because he only punches when his feet are set. If you don't let him set his feet he would have a hard time punching in the fly cause he isn't that fast and that's not natural to him.
So basically you have to be able to move laterally, potshot him on the outside, dominate his jab and when he gets too close you should slip even closer, clinch and fight in the clinch up close. Then push and start it again from the outside.
It's not impossible to beat a fighter with Golovkin's style but his weightclass is pretty empty let's be honest, so nobody could do what's needed to beat him. Cotto's steamroll over Geale really shows how weak that weightclass is. Geale was an established, career MW (ok...foughtthere from 2007 that's a long time) and Cotto wasn't a big guy even in 154. He still beat him the same way or maybe even more than Golovkin did. I'm not implying that Cotto would have beat GGG but it really show something.
Key is someone with good defense. Thats the best trait against power punchers, dont get hit clean in the first place.
Everyone at 160 sucks. But I really would have wanted to see lara vs ggg if canelo is too much of a ***** to fight him. I think lara lasts all 12 rounds.
Ward would have schooled ggg, they didnt want nothing to do with him.
He's deadly accurate though, not much misses the target. It's also hard to defend against a guy whose footwork is able to the ring into a phonebooth.
Best way to beat him is imo up close, that's the only place I have seen fighters have any success against him.
everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
that's old, corny and overused
Tyson eventually got beaten by some people who had plans and they could also take them through even if they got "punched in the face"
Don't let him setup and plant his feet..
Keep Ggg constantly moving, potshot him, and brutalize him when he gets too aggressive and overexposes himself.. Similar to what hopkins did to trinidad
Pretty much this
And moving laterally NOT in straight lines is also important. You have to force the fight to stay on the middle of the ring and avoid the ropes.
Also dominate his jab, constantly break his rhythm...
Fight from the outside or from the inside (you can switch it sometimes) but not from mid distance which is his preferred distance, the only distance where I saw him being comfortable so far.
He is strong and skilled but not fast, at some point this will backfire on him.
You are all wrong. Kovalev gassed out because he got ill during the training camp. Also Golovkin has much stronger and tougher body then Kovalev.
The keys to beating Golovkin are changing distances, going inside and throwing fast combinations. Golovkin very well defends from single punches but when his opponent throw fast combination he lands. Also he is mediocre in inside fighting.
Kovalev getting "ill" was just an excuse, it was what Chillemba was doing (hitting him in the body) that was giving him problems.
How do you know Golovkin has a tougher body, when no one has seriously tested him to the body? The few times Murray hit him in the body, it bothered him and slowed him down a bit, but it was too little too late and Murray was feather-fisted. But Golovkin's body is there to be hit.
Golovkin and Kovalev both come from the Soviet/Eastern Europe school of boxing so they are both vulnerable to body shots from the inside. The key is to go to his body EARLY in the fight, and i believe Brook has the power to hurt him to the body.
The key to beating GGG, is to go to his body. Too many fighters try to aim for his head and neglect his body, but Golovkin has an elusive head and a very strong chin as he showed in numerous fights. However, his body is always there to be hit.
When you go to his body you slow him down. Eastern Europeans and Soviet fighters generally do not like getting hit to the body, we saw Chillemba hurt Kovalev to the body and was able to make Kovalev gas out.
Brook needs to go to GGG's body EARLY, especially with hooks to the liver and kidney. Sap his energy. In the late rounds when GGG is tired, that's when you start attacking.
You are all wrong. Kovalev gassed out because he got ill during the training camp. Also Golovkin has much stronger and tougher body then Kovalev.
The keys to beating Golovkin are changing distances, going inside and throwing fast combinations. Golovkin very well defends from single punches but when his opponent throw fast combination he lands. Also he is mediocre in inside fighting.
Well I think he could be beaten both ways..
Hopkins or Ward would beat him my way,,, I can see a froch or even a prime Pavlik backing down ggg like you suggest..
You say Golovkin has seen movement 400 times but he really hasn't faced true movers.. Monroe is probably the only legit guy Golovkin has faced that could be described as a mover and he is a fringe contender at best..
Either way, an average fighter isn't going to beat Golovkin moving or forcing him back.. It's gonna take a true world class talent like Ward, hopkins, froch, etc..
Both strategies are only as good as the fighters implement
I actually would have liked to seen a prime jermain taylor with his jab, power and raw physical tools battle Golovkin..
If Kelly Pavlik broke down Taylor, imagine what GGG would do. GGG is pavlik with more power, more strength, more intelligence, and more skill.
Obviously there is no Mw out there that fancies his chances against Gennady. Ge is head & shoulders better than anyone 168 & under. Canelo ruined his career by blatantly avoiding him after that stupid rampage after the Khan fight Canelo has lost his Mexican fans who have disowned him & named him El Pollo believing he is a coward,
Thank the Good Lord for Kel Brooke who has the cojones to get in the ring with him
True. Have to give credit to Brook and I hope he makes a good showing. Stopping GGG is like preventing Michael Jordan from hitting a 3 pointer. Some athletes just have the goods and have what it takes to win.