Yes he did. Close fight and cannot complain that Parker won but one of the scorecards was criminal. Chisora always seems to lose these split decisions which is a bit unlucky.
Yet outside of Spence, Bud has earned more than any other active PBC fighter south of cruiserweight. Teo is undisputed as was Bud. Bob may be a crude and shifty promoter, as they all are, but he gets fights made and has developed many a star.
So how is Bud a star when he can't even sell 150K pay per views. How has Bob made Teo a star when he has to go outside Top Rank to earn? I think the previous poster has said that Bob is doing nothing NOW to promote his fighters and he is right. Bob might hate Haymon but he is doing exactly the same thing, keeping his network deal at the expense of his fighters.
Both Arum and Haymon are keeping their fighters purses lower or avoiding fights to ensure that those fighters stay on their networks. No difference between the two and I think most fans regard Haymon as a cancer to boxing and if that is the case, then Bob is in the same category.
Just remind me, wasn't in Loma who petitioned for the "franchise title" so he didn't have to fight his mandatory Haney?
Even then, while it is understandable that Haney now wants to "turn the tables" and make Loma wait, it would be better for his career if he took the Loma fight. Would allow comparisons to be made between Haney and Lopez against a common opponent.
Arum doesn't like Coppinger because Copp is still a shill for PBC instead of shilling for ESPN,
Copp doesn't mind shilling for anyone but he wants to take money from everyone and that is what Bob does not like. He wants his shills to be loyal to TR.
None of these guys were a mark on WBC WBO WBA etc. guy. That guy could ignore all reason or logic. I honestly think that if he didn't get paid by PBC, he must have been mentally deficient.
The others are simply idiots although leave Robbie Barret alone. I need him simply as a counterweight to the LDBC tribe.
Tank was WRONG! It does not matter what the circumstances were. Why do so many of you have a problem with this. There is no justification for his actions.
I despair for those who try to justify his actions.
Well sorry about that, but it’s something you have to learn to accept. Deep down inside all black ppl feel this way and it doesn’t necessarily mean they hate White ppl.
Not all black people. Only those who feel disenfranchised and seek to blame someone else for their problems. It is understandable to some degree but feeling a victim is never a way out of a situation, it is only a way to justify a situation and not looking for reasons closer to yourself that you can act on.
There is an underclass is every society. The ones that do something about it, despite the challenges and obstacles, are the ones who are successful in some way or other.
This is about WILDER.
Lying, cheating his whole career.
And don't forget his lovely public comments: misogynistic, antisemitic, ****phobic etc.
I corrected your statement for you. Should have included "I want a body on my name"
Any one with more than one brain cell knew that the boar excuse was total bull. It didn't take the Daily Mail to confirm this.
Does this in any way impact his victory over Wilder? Absolutely not.
Tyson and the persona he has built up is based on half-truths and lies. It is what makes him such a media magnet. He will say anything for attention and he does not mind contradicting himself in the same sentence. Some would say he is simply a "self promoter".
Wilder has followed the same approach in building himself up. Creating a fake persona, saying outrageous things (though in his case he seems to believe it), avoiding tough competition, etc.
If I am to believe that any boxer is 100% truthful, boxing would be boring outside the fights.
So, does this story possibly contain some truth? Probably
Does it in any way have an impact on his fight with Wilder? NO!
I dislike Floyd and his persona. I think he has set boxing back years (which is manifested by all the PBC fighters thinking they can reproduce what Floyd has done. Consequently ensuring we do not see the fights we should).
However, accusing a man of murdering his wife with no evidence is a low act. Irrespective of what your position is on Floyd as a boxer.
Being in proud of your heritage when you're black scares people. Its okay for Tyson Fury to be the Gypsy King. Nobody says anything about that.
Race and nationality is prevalent in boxing and is a major driving force. People hate Al Haymon because he's black. When I read most of these posters bashing what Haymon has done thus I know its based on race. The man never speaks, and is thriving in a sport that most failed in. He brought boxing back to free tv. But a powerful black man scares the world. Seeing Wilder fall is the ultimate for a racist, because he's a prideful, powerful, imposing black man. The thing about Wilder is that he has to be careful because his success seems to have gotten to him because he is talking like he's a diety. He still only is a mere man.
See, now here is something maybe some of you Wilder supporters don't want to hear.
Not all black people support Wilder. Not all black people appreciate a loudmouth ducker who avoided tough fights throughout his entire career. Not all black people support someone who says he wants to kill someone in the ring.
Not all non-black people are scared of a powerful black man. People all around the world revered Ali. People all around the world were fans of Mike Tyson. People all around the world support Anthony Joshua.
No, Wilder has portrayed himself as a very limited, niche kind of black man and a large number of people do not like him irrespective of race.
In business, they say, "Be aware of your brand". Wilder has created his brand which appeals to some but pushes the majority, irrespective of race, away.
Don't make this some sort of simplistic black vs white issue, it is not, despite what some would like to make it.
A retirement fund for boxers (or most sportsmen) is a great idea.
However, having a promoter or a manager or even a governing body run it is simply a means to get ripped off.
The money should be put into escrow and run by a separate, not for profit, trust and managed by professional money managers who are selected and rewarded on performance of the funds under their management.
Anything else is simply waiting for the inevitable collapse or fraud.
It is a fighter's perogative to choose who he wants as trainer and if any fighter believes that he stands a better chance with a different trainer, he should do so. At the end of the day it is the fighter in the ring who has to win the fight.
However, I think it is a bit of a d*ck move by Whyte to notify Tibbs by lawyer. Have the legal papers ready but he could at least have Skype'd or Zoom'd Tibbs to tell him face to face.
Crawford is not a gate. I will again quote the late great Black Mamba, Roger Mayweather:
"who'd you beat, and who did that guy beat?"
Normally I would agree with your point, except that Crawford has no notable welterweight wins. Spence beating him is equivalent to Spence beating Jeff Horn because that's all Crawford has.
Might agree with you but who has Spence beat. Brook immediately after he got his face broke by Golovkin? Squeaking by Porter? Mikey Garcia a blow up lightweight?
I hope you all understand what this means if Spence beats Danny.
Errol Spence will have THREE former world champions that he'll have beaten at the top of 147, two of which held WBC gold, two that held IBF gold, and two that Crawford ducked.
I'm dead serious. If car crash Spence pulls this out, I don't want to hear NOTHING about Crawford being #1.
Until Spence beats Crawford he's not no.1. Same applies to Crawford.
No one in the welterweight division can be pound for pound no 1 until everyone fights.
Morales, Khan, Judah, Matthysse
Peterson, Malignaggi, Guerrero, Granados
Lol, pretty impressive. People nowadays claim Ortiz jr. is ready for top because he beat S. vargas. Guys like S Vargas are just another day at work for Danny.
And you equate that to being similar to defeating Pacman?
I agree but he did win it..It was credible is all I'm saying..
Absolutely agree with you there. I like Porter and he is a tough fighter but beating him is not a signature/marquee win.
Else you could say the same about Kell Brook and no one puts him in the discussion of elite fighters. Good fighter, absolutely! Elite, absolutely NOT!
Look, I am not saying that Spence is a bad fighter because he is not. He is a good fighter. However, his path for greatness is through Crawford and until he takes that fight and wins that fight, he will never be regarded as a great fighter.
Crawford would be his first signature win if he got it.
Crawford however is not without blame. He needs to start fighting better opposition and whether that is at/above/below welterweight I do not care. However, his inaction is something that is on him.
He is still better than anybody Crawford has ever fought.
I don't even rate Horn that highly (he is tough and combatative but not highly skilled) however he has beaten Pacman.
Who has Garcia beaten at any level even approaching Pacman.
Solid fighter with a great chin. Boxers with legs will always trouble him because of his style.
He lost close decisions to Thurman and Porter and did not get dominated. He needed to add a different trainer but still has not done it so that might have affected him at the top level.
I don't think that he is under-rated. He just get crapped on too much
This is an accurate summation of Danny. He is a good fighter, not a great one. No one should be ****ting on him but no one should also be proclaiming in a HOF'er.
What gets me is that he simply has shown limited ambition. He seems to have been happy to slum it on the PBC plantation never looking to challenge himself when the opportunity was there whether it was Mayweather or others.
In my opinion, Danny Garcia is now a high-level gatekeeper. He was a champion but he was never elite. At welterweight, he lost to both Thurman and Porter, who while both highly rated fighters, no one would mistake them for elite champions. At 140 Garcia might have been better but at 147, his last two opponents were Redkach and Granados who have 10 losses between them.
This assumption that Danny Garcia is some great opponent at welterweight is false. If he beats Spence, it will make me look more closely at Spence's level rather than assume that Garcia is now some great.
Sure not. But gifted win doesn`t count much.
You actually think Horn is better than Danny, lol?
I watched that fight live and though it could have gone either way and I wouldn't have complained if it had gone Manni's way, in fact I expected it to go to Pacman simply because he was a HOF champion. However, in no way was anyone robbed in that fight. It was a 50/50 decision.
Do I think Horn is a better boxer than Danny on a sustained basis, no I don't.
However, Horn was inspired that night and Manni was below par and if that had been Danny in the ring, I think Horn would have won going away as Danny simply does not have the output to have kept Horn away from him on that day. A man fighting in front of a huge crowd in his own country. That can inspire you to do great things.
If the bold is true, Gervonta Davis is the king of the lightweights. Nobody can make him offers. Even Loma knows that, which is why he respectfully requested for the fight in front of the whole world. He knows what he has to do. I liked that. Arum is aware too. Top Rank is broke.
I think Davis will rule that herd, too, after he KOs Loma.
What utter stupidity. Matchroom made Tank an offer of $5million to fight Farmer. He turned it down. Do you think Tank made $5 million in his fights against Ruiz, Nunez or Gamboa?
Tank is an idiot. Just like Deontay is an idiot. When someone offers you over the odds for a fight you think you can win easily, you do so. If you don't, I guess you weren't as confident as you said you were.
No bro, Spence in terms of levels and achievements at welterweight is far above everyone. You're rewriting history to discredit quality wins after the fact.
Mikey was never a quality win and EVERYONE said that before the fact.
Brook fought Golovkin at middleweight, got his face broke, immediately dropped down TWO divisions and fought Spence. I actually rated Brook at the time and think that the name is a good one to have on the resume but the circumstances/conditions around the fight did not make that a great opponent.
Porter, as I said before, will never be mistaken for a P4P fighter however, is a tough fighter but will never be mistaken for a marque win.
Lmfaooooooooooooo
1.2 million is a lot in these times. It would be foolish to miss out on this opportunity. Who else is he going to make 1.2 million against?!
Guy talked so much trash and was so confident in himself to predict a KO of Lomachenko but now ran away with his tail tucked between his legs.
Take the fight. The fans have waited long enough. Loma has waited long enough. You, Lopez, claimed to be waiting too. Now is the time.
You hate Loma. You have no respect for him. He's little. He's a little diva. You predict a KO. You're the next star.
Come on man. Take it.
This is it!!! It is now put up or shut up time.
It does annoy me no end how these challengers both want the opportunity to fight for titles but also have these entitled demands on purses. You fight for the right to be the king but until you do so, you get less. When you are king, you determine how much your opposition gets.
Mayweather took the short-end to get the opportunity to fight Goldenboy. Once he won that fight he was the king. Do you think any Mayweather opponent after that got anything approaching one-third of his purse?
Same with Canelo. Smith is begging for 5 million while Canelo makes 30-35.
The lesson is simple, if you want to earn the big money, beat the king. Otherwise you can simply sit in the corner talking about how you Couldda/Wouldda/Shoudda.