And also said he was wrong and didn't bring up "where".
That's what u chose to imply. Now u just being a lil annoying btch.
Something told me to quit responding to you. Me over here thinking we could agree to disagree about the part we disagreed on.
But u been putting words in my mouth and implying shyt this whole time. Expecting me to explain every single detail just so u won't imply the worst.
"Oh so if your partner doesn't is violence ok" Did i fcking say that
OMG "SHUT THE FCK UP"
you actually constantly brought up where. you said he shouldn't have done it in public over and over. in public is a place.
it only seems like im putting words in your mouth because you are skirting around the issue. your whole reason for bringing up gender roles was to imply if a woman doesn't do what you want then doing what tank did was ok or at least justified in some way. otherwise why else would you bring that up? if your partner tells you to do something and you dont want to do it...then what? you still haven't answered that. you just said you would do what they wanted but what happens when you dont? violence against you is ok? why bring that up in the context of tank inflecting violence upon his partner? what do you think that implies when you bring that up? look what you made me do! is essentially what it sounds like.
you believe a woman should always do what a man says, and when she doesnt then what? can you inflict violence on her? should you? i ask you that and when you dont answer and i press you on it you get offended. if its not ok to inflict violence on them then why bring it up as its irrelevant. if it is ok then yes you do support what he did. you keep conflating we dont agree on gender roles with we dont agree on violence. i dont agree that every relationship has to be male led. it can be female led, equal, etc...but violence is never an option and a person cannot consent to being harmed. legally they cannot.
put it this way imagine a woman comes to the police and says my partner grabbed me and forced me to leave somewhere. the police dont turn around and start talking about gender roles. they look at the video and yep there it is. clear battery. they dont say well you should have listened to what he told you to do.
but you said he was stupid for doing it in public. do you not understand what that implies? maybe you don't. is he stupid for getting caught in publc doing it or is he stupid for doing it period? you still arent answering.
but you didn't tease that out to its logical conclusion. if you dont do what your partner wants you to do...then what? is violence ok?if you want a submissive partner and your current partner isn't submissive you dont start beating them. you find another partner. legally its quite clear. of course if you live in the real world you would know no person is going to do what you want 100 percent of the time exactly when you want it so these kind of thins are always going to pop up. violence is not hte way to solve them
And also said he was wrong and didn't bring up "where".
That's what u chose to imply. Now u just being a lil annoying btch.
Something told me to quit responding to you. Me over here thinking we could agree to disagree about the part we disagreed on.
But u been putting words in my mouth and implying shyt this whole time. Expecting me to explain every single detail just so u won't imply the worst.
"Oh so if your partner doesn't is violence ok" Did i fcking say that
OMG "SHUT THE FCK UP"
( im sorry i don't mean to be disrespectful but man your annoying)
My first post was me calling him stupid and i already said he deserves the backlash he gets. But now your saying that i never said i disagreed with what he did???
When i just said we both agree what he did was wrong?
OMFG
If we agree then why we going back n forth... Im obviously talking about the part the we disagree with which u won't let go....
I brought up gender roles when u asked what would i do, and i said if my man tell me its time to go its time to go.
See now u all over the place using stuff i said grouping it together for your agenda.
but you said he was stupid for doing it in public. do you not understand what that implies? maybe you don't. is he stupid for getting caught in publc doing it or is he stupid for doing it period? you still arent answering.
but you didn't tease that out to its logical conclusion. if you dont do what your partner wants you to do...then what? is violence ok?if you want a submissive partner and your current partner isn't submissive you dont start beating them. you find another partner. legally its quite clear. of course if you live in the real world you would know no person is going to do what you want 100 percent of the time exactly when you want it so these kind of thins are always going to pop up. violence is not hte way to solve them
I've seen this line a few times where violence against women is being discussed. I would be just as condemning of Kov, (who is a complete POS by all accounts) or anyone else for that matter, had we seen some actual footage.
Here we have a video of a dude losing his **** and grabbing a girl up by her collar / throat. We can call it for exactly what it is. If we read an article saying Tank allegedly grabbed a girl, i'd be saying well it's only an accusation and who knows what happened, maybe she attacked him first.
But thats not all posters tho.... I been on here long enough to know how these dudes are. If you feel like it doesn't apply you to... Disregard bro
you literally have said 3-4 times "he shouldnt have done that in public." that qualifier in public means something. you see the difference between he shouldnt have done that and he shouldn't have done that in public is very big. it takes the emphasis off of he shouldnt have done that and puts it on in public which in turn implies that maybe it would be ok or that it is ok to do it in other places. if you aren't ok with it then you should just say he shouldn't have done that but you have refused to say that each and every time. i
if we both agree then how am i forcing my pov on you? that doesnt really make sense. you keep talking about gender roles and things like that but i dont know how being violent against women fits into any gender role. if thats the gender role of a man then yes we have some serious gender role problems.
My first post was me calling him stupid and i already said he deserves the backlash he gets. But now your saying that i never said i disagreed with what he did??? I said he was wrong and i said he shouldn't have did it in public.
When i just said we both agree what he did was wrong?
OMFG
If we agree then why we going back n forth... Im obviously talking about the part the we disagree with which u won't let go....
I brought up gender roles when u asked what would i do, and i said if my man tell me its time to go its time to go.
See now u all over the place using stuff i said grouping it together for your agenda.
But if it was someone else, like Sergey *wink wink. He would get the benefit of the doubt and they would say he just being stupid but he didn't actually assault her.
I've seen this line a few times where violence against women is being discussed. I would be just as condemning of Kov, (who is a complete POS by all accounts) or anyone else for that matter, had we seen some actual footage.
Here we have a video of a dude losing his **** and grabbing a girl up by her collar / throat. We can call it for exactly what it is. If we read an article saying Tank allegedly grabbed a girl, i'd be saying well it's only an accusation and who knows what happened, maybe she attacked him first.
Tank was WRONG! It does not matter what the circumstances were. Why do so many of you have a problem with this. There is no justification for his actions.
I despair for those who try to justify his actions.
I wonder how many passes would be given out to those on the lists :lol1: !!!!
it says they were charged so i'm not sure what your point is? how is being charged with a crime getting a pass? you mean in the public eye? sure thats fair. then again video is a lot more telling. we know what happened. we dont need to make up stories(unless we are you) back to getting a pass though didn't the president admit to sexually assaulting women which makes perfect sense as dozens of women have came forward saying they were sexually assaulted by him. fake news though im sure. if you are saying tank should get a pass since other people also did i disagree. its like letting oj simpson get away with murder because the police are racist. its true they are racist and they have horribly racist policies but he still did it.
Cuz now u saying im ok with women being beaten...
This convo should have ended x4 posts ago... But u keep whining and putting words in my mouth or twisting what i say.
If you wasnt tryma force yo pov on me you would have left me alone and agreed to disagree.
Im done with this convo, its going nowhere, and u gonna continue implying what u think.
Me saying we both agree about what he did was wrong but disagree about the magnitude of it.
Should have been the end of this.
But your here u go tryna force your pov on me like i said
you literally have said 3-4 times "he shouldnt have done that in public." that qualifier in public means something. you see the difference between he shouldnt have done that and he shouldn't have done that in public is very big. it takes the emphasis off of he shouldnt have done that and puts it on in public which in turn implies that maybe it would be ok or that it is ok to do it in other places. if you aren't ok with it then you should just say he shouldn't have done that but you have refused to say that each and every time. i
if we both agree then how am i forcing my pov on you? that doesnt really make sense. you keep talking about gender roles and things like that but i dont know how being violent against women fits into any gender role. if thats the gender role of a man then yes we have some serious gender role problems.
He will never have the flair and charisma of a floyd mayweather. He does not even talk 10% as well as floyd. Building him as a big star is not going to pay off when he is not someone you can identify with(villain or not). Outside of abusing women, where are the similarities?
went to check out his instagram and the post before says davis vs santa cruz at staples...man kobe just died and you are going to do that to him and dishonor his memory with that trash?
why do you keep adding the qualifier in public? you do know what that implies right? just come out and say it if you think its ok to beat women. why hide? its wrong to grab women period. not in public. if you think its right then that is your opinion. legally you are on the wrong side but you dont have to think the laws are correct.
how am i forcing anything on you? i cant force you to do anything. respect me or catch a beating is not being respectful. this is why they have domestic violence laws so this kind of dynamic doesn't happen. if someone is doing something you dont like then dont be with them or find someone else that will do what you want. beating someone into submission is not legal. you cant consent to being harmed.
Cuz now u saying im ok with women being beaten...
This convo should have ended x4 posts ago... But u keep whining and putting words in my mouth or twisting what i say.
If you wasnt tryma force yo pov on me you would have left me alone and agreed to disagree.
Im done with this convo, its going nowhere, and u gonna continue implying what u think.
Me saying we both agree about what he did was wrong but disagree about the magnitude of it.
Should have been the end of this.
But your here u go tryna force your pov on me like i said