He has always been a dirty little turd but in the last few years he seems to be out of control. I think his age is now working against him, his old skool tricky sneaky behaviour isn’t suited to this modern age of the internet and transparency.
We all see how badly he is treating Bud Crawford. We can point out how boring Bud may be outside of the ring but that’s why he has himself a PROMOTER. Yet because Bud isn’t making him the money he would like without bothering to promote him he is turning on him.
He is threatening to punish Teo Lopez for fighting on Triller. He also threatened other networks to not bid on Teo fight so he could pay him as little as possible and didn’t like it when rivals didn’t want to play his game.
Everybody knows the dirty tricks he has played regarding undisputed at Heavyweight. He thinks he can talk his way out of blame and Eddie Hearn in to it but he can’t. The filthy AJ haters will attack Joshua and Hearn but that’s what they do but even they can see the dirty little game Arum is trying but failing to play.
But Bob plays it all out in words, makes his statements, has his interviews but he contradicts himself, he lies and he doesn’t seem to of noticed that in this day and age everything he is saying can be brought back, can be cross referenced and double checked and he has contradicted himself repeatedly.
Can’t speak for Top Rank but I think Bob is on borrowed time here. He is making a mess of his dirty antics and ppl are now able to check up on his lies now, there is nowhere to hide.
is it time for Bob to go?
So how is Bud a star when he can't even sell 150K pay per views. How has Bob made Teo a star when he has to go outside Top Rank to earn? I think the previous poster has said that Bob is doing nothing NOW to promote his fighters and he is right. Bob might hate Haymon but he is doing exactly the same thing, keeping his network deal at the expense of his fighters.
Both Arum and Haymon are keeping their fighters purses lower or avoiding fights to ensure that those fighters stay on their networks. No difference between the two and I think most fans regard Haymon as a cancer to boxing and if that is the case, then Bob is in the same category.
Arum has come to realize he can’t move Bud any further. Part of it is frustration that PBC won’t do business with him, and that Crawford just doesn’t have any star appeal. He’s an excellent fighter but he hasn’t had that marquee opponent yet.
Teo could have had fights in house. He refuses a rematch with Loma and he is throwing shade at Haney, and talking about a move to 140.
Yet outside of Spence, Bud has earned more than any other active PBC fighter south of cruiserweight. Teo is undisputed as was Bud. Bob may be a crude and shifty promoter, as they all are, but he gets fights made and has developed many a star.
So how is Bud a star when he can't even sell 150K pay per views. How has Bob made Teo a star when he has to go outside Top Rank to earn? I think the previous poster has said that Bob is doing nothing NOW to promote his fighters and he is right. Bob might hate Haymon but he is doing exactly the same thing, keeping his network deal at the expense of his fighters.
Both Arum and Haymon are keeping their fighters purses lower or avoiding fights to ensure that those fighters stay on their networks. No difference between the two and I think most fans regard Haymon as a cancer to boxing and if that is the case, then Bob is in the same category.
Yet outside of Spence, Bud has earned more than any other active PBC fighter south of cruiserweight. Teo is undisputed as was Bud. Bob may be a crude and shifty promoter, as they all are, but he gets fights made and has developed many a star.
Yea, that saying is wack. Use some real more precise English and we'll see is we can do some better business.
I don't know if you realize this or not, but there has been like this GLOBAL PANDEMIC thing the last year or so. Don't you see this has completely impacted the sport, but you're dumb cuck arse will just argue that off too, do it!
Crawfish keeps asking for big paydays and nobody cares, he's not exciting enough and they can't get the money investors to back him. Crawfish has less personality than a jelly fish and he doesn't make any waves. Not Bobs fault, it's Crawfish fault. Bob loves money and if Crawfish could make money he would be all over it. He's pricing himself out.
Teo has 16 fights kid, chill the fcuk out and honestly, he's trying to screw Top Rank with his extremely high demands. You acting like Bob been railroading the kid for years. He's 16-0 and wants 10 million a fight. ARE YOU FCKING HIGH ON C0CK??? Manny at his peak was getting 12 million dollar purses with ppv upsides. The money isn't there so what is Bob gonna do, lose money??
Like, what are you even doing here? Absolutely zero knowledge, you're like some weirdo fairweather fan trying to act like you know what you're talking about.
Lol Bob is losing the plot. You seem to have a crush on the old crispy fart for some weird reason. He is threatening promoters to not act like promoters, he is threatening his own fighters for trying to earn more than the bare minimum which is what he wants to pay them, he is blocking undisputed fights in more than one division and has been openly lying to the Boxing media and fans just to try get one over on a rival promoter even though everybody can see right through him.
So good on him for making good fights in 1731 but the old crispy fkk turd IS LOSING THE PLOT.
Holy hell, YDKSAB do you?
Just off the top of my head --->
Ali vs Frazier 3
Ali vs Chuvalo
27 Ali fights
20 Hagler fights
14 Foreman fights
10 Arguello fights
7 SRL fights
All of Oscar fights until 2004
Spinks vs Ali 1
Duran vs SRL 1
Duran vs Moore
Foreman vs Moorer
Pacquiao vs Oscar
Hagler vs Duran
Hagler vs Hearns
Hagler vs Mugabi
Hagler vs SRL
SRL vs Hearns 2
Holyfield vs Foreman
All Michael Carbajal fights
Pacquiao vs Floyd
All Pacquiao fights
Morales vs MAB 1-3
Most of Erik Morales fights
Most of MAB fights
Chavez Sr later in his career
Most of Cotto fights
Most of Margarito fights
Other fights with —>
Frazier
Monzon
Mancini
Barkley
Toney
Mayweather Jr until Zab
When King comtrolled the HW's of the late 70's through early 90's, Arum had all the smaller guys. There are thousands of great fights in there.
Step your motherfcuking game up kid. You're a fcuking embarassment. :dunce:
last 20 years have been a shit show with top rank and just because fights eventually got made you leave out all the BS it took. pac v floyd took 5 years to make because he held a grudge. don king held a grudge with lennox lewis just the same.
Mosley, Cotto and JMM had to manuever and jump back and forth from top rank just to get their fights with both floyd and pacquaio because it takes an act of congress to get arum to work with haymond
Losing the plot, I don't respond to that wack shet. I'm pointing out he's a genius thats made the greatest fights of all time, thats my fcuking point you dumb fcuk and you know that. You challenged that and I pushed your shet in.
Boxing is trash right now and his stable isn't as big as it used to be. Loma and Teo was a great matchup. Fury went to Arum for a reason and Arum did everyhting he could to get Fury vs AJ which could be one of the biggest fights in boxing history. What other big fights are happening elsewhere?
What you have to understand is this ---> YDKSAB so whatever I say that counters you, you'll just simply disagree with some stank diaruby, just like when I pantsed you ^ there.
Don't you know that you're mentally incapable against me?
Lol you don’t respond to that whack shet? You sure about that cuz you have responded haven’t you. And Bob done jack to make undisputed at HW and he has just made it clear he isn’t going to help make undisputed at 135 and he is not helping BUD and is planning to screw Teo over. Like I said he is losing the plot, I will call it losing control if it helps you stop being a little girl but he is starting to become a bit of a mess. Maybe it is his age. The once great, as you so beautifully pointed out, is fkking shet up and losing, that’s LOSING, the fkking plot.
You asked which biggest fights and I rubbed your nose in it you daft cvnt. I proved your a betacuck that DKSAB.
Who necks?
so is Bob losing the plot or not? Your history lesson was beautiful but fkking pointless. What super fights is he making now to add to his list? Any? Or is he losing the plot? He is blocking undisputed in atleast 2 divisions right now.
But still, you pointed out somethings he did 40 years ago so it’s all good.
Let me recap the context of dialogue here you chimpanzee.
I said:
Arum is a genius that made the greatest fights of all time. You need to chiggidy check yourself before you wreck yourself.
You said:
Which biggest fights?
When I pantsed you and showed the entire forum you have a half inch deck, you change the goal posts?
Fcuk off you mongotard.
Lol thanks for wasting your time not proving any points at all. I asked is Bob losing the plot, your pointless history has added nothing at all
Hopefully his supply of baby blood will run out soon and the old lizard will finally kick the bucket.
What an ugly thing to say. Arum is no better/worse that any other scum bag in his position. Haymon/Hearn are just like him.
Holy hell, YDKSAB do you?
Just off the top of my head --->
Ali vs Frazier 3
Ali vs Chuvalo
27 Ali fights
20 Hagler fights
14 Foreman fights
10 Arguello fights
7 SRL fights
All of Oscar fights until 2004
Spinks vs Ali 1
Duran vs SRL 1
Duran vs Moore
Foreman vs Moorer
Pacquiao vs Oscar
Hagler vs Duran
Hagler vs Hearns
Hagler vs Mugabi
Hagler vs SRL
SRL vs Hearns 2
Holyfield vs Foreman
All Michael Carbajal fights
Pacquiao vs Floyd
All Pacquiao fights
Morales vs MAB 1-3
Most of Erik Morales fights
Most of MAB fights
Chavez Sr later in his career
Most of Cotto fights
Most of Margarito fights
Other fights with —>
Frazier
Monzon
Mancini
Barkley
Toney
Mayweather Jr until Zab
When King comtrolled the HW's of the late 70's through early 90's, Arum had all the smaller guys. There are thousands of great fights in there.
Step your motherfcuking game up kid. You're a fcuking embarassment. :dunce:
So when I ask is Bob starting to lose the plot as in NOW, you highlight fights up to 45 years old? Maybe you need to start reading a post before you choose to reply to it with arrogant responses. Cuz you don’t want to come across like a nob head. Which you just have.
I really hate that saying losing the plot. Fcuking stupid. Arum is a genius that made the greatest fights of all time. You need to chiggidy check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Which biggest fights?
I honestly don’t see any difference in him since I’ve known about the guy. Dude’s aging great. Still got the best knack for grooming great fighters (how many top 10 PFP fighters does TR have right now?). Teofimo Lopez from what I see has a path laid out to ATG-hood too. He just has to be good enough.
Arum has his side of scumbaggery e.g robberies. But he’s still somehow one of the major driving forces in the sport today.
He has always been a dirty little turd but in the last few years he seems to be out of control. I think his age is now working against him, his old skool tricky sneaky behaviour isn’t suited to this modern age of the internet and transparency.
We all see how badly he is treating Bud Crawford. We can point out how boring Bud may be outside of the ring but that’s why he has himself a PROMOTER. Yet because Bud isn’t making him the money he would like without bothering to promote him he is turning on him.
He is threatening to punish Teo Lopez for fighting on Triller. He also threatened other networks to not bid on Teo fight so he could pay him as little as possible and didn’t like it when rivals didn’t want to play his game.
Everybody knows the dirty tricks he has played regarding undisputed at Heavyweight. He thinks he can talk his way out of blame and Eddie Hearn in to it but he can’t. The filthy AJ haters will attack Joshua and Hearn but that’s what they do but even they can see the dirty little game Arum is trying but failing to play.
But Bob plays it all out in words, makes his statements, has his interviews but he contradicts himself, he lies and he doesn’t seem to of noticed that in this day and age everything he is saying can be brought back, can be cross referenced and double checked and he has contradicted himself repeatedly.
Can’t speak for Top Rank but I think Bob is on borrowed time here. He is making a mess of his dirty antics and ppl are now able to check up on his lies now, there is nowhere to hide.
is it time for Bob to go?
The cheese fell off the cracker years ago.
Promoter wars. Good way to put it. They could care less about the fans. That's why, despite his general scummines, I think Don King served boxing fans well.
yeah see don king is 89 years old same age as bob and quietly ducked out of boxing starting 15-20 years ago.
don matched his top fighters together but if someone like lennox wouldnt sign he held his grudges just like arum did. we had some crappy guys like ruiz and chris byrd around for years as belt holders that lennox would have easily cleaned out but Don protected them.
That phaggot is 89 years old and still ruining boxing. boxing fans have been waiting for him to die or retire for like 10 years now and it still hasnt happened and he is still fuking over every fighter at top rank
If arum died in his 70s we would have had pac-floyd 5 years sooner and would have had pac-crawford and crawford-spence already
I’ve always said Spence clearly doesn’t want the Crawford fight but I’ve always wanted team Crawford under Arum to force them in to a corner but they just haven’t.
personally I think promoter wars have over taken the sport. It’s all about who holds the best cards, who owns the stars, champions and ppv sellers. That’s why we getting so much false marination, so many in-house fights and rematch clauses. It’s all safety nets so promoters can protect their assets, it stinks of a lack of bravery and the fact it is actually a sport seems lost on these promoters
Promoter wars. Good way to put it. They could care less about the fans. That's why, despite his general scummines, I think Don King served boxing fans well.
He has always been sneaky, devious, and conniving. It's actually shocking watching him do interviews and seeing people lap up his bullcrap.
And they never think to look back and question him or call him out. It's like they're afraid of angering him.