Funny how roach calls Tony- Margarita. Cotto should take this man as his trainer. He might talk some smack, but he knows how to protect his boxers from any possible unfairness that may occur.
There many other defensive fighters that also go onfense more than Mayweather. But Pacquiao moving up in weight from 108 and fighting some of the top superstars is something we may never see again.
Manny is suppose to win because he's beaten the odds before. If he were to fight Cotto before he fought De La Hoya or Hatton he was suppose to lose, but now he's seen as a miracle worker. He's been seen as someone who is bigger than his actual size. Godzilla.
I think you are wrong....
The odds favor Manny as a winner but that does not mean he is supposed to win... come on.
This is not about books this is about one fighter against another fighter and the books fail must of the time.
Do you really believe they would be betting on Pacquiao if it wasn't cause of the way he handle his past two opponents?
Everyone should know that Cotto was better than De La Hoya, that De La Hoya was past his prime. If Cotto were the one that fought Manny instead De La Hoya boxing critics would've still pick Manny to lose, but ever since he won now he's seen as a monster. A monster he might really be, but I doubt they believed in him before like they do now.
Maybe the same can be said about Cotto. While Cotto has supposley looked for Calderon as sparring partner among others. He might be surprise of the combination of power and speed that Pacquiao can display. Faster than Judah and Mosley while not being a sitting duck or too old to go 12 rounds without losing stamina.
Actually was being said is that he's very slim compared to previous times and that there was a chance he might be under the limit weight of 145 by the time of the weigh-in.
cotto don't need a trainer for this fight, all he needs to do is bully pac to the ropes then unload bodyshots. its not hard to understand that.
If you don't have someone to help you work on your speed and conditioning, plus your foot work. How can you catch up to a fighter as quick and fast as Pacquiao?
Its not wise to keep doing the same thing expecting a different result. You act like its easy to catch Pac. If Pac comes prepare he won't be an easy target.
landman is there to improve the speed and conditioning.
cotto's footwork is already good.
you can't catch up to pac, you got to head him off at the pass (ie. cut off the ring)
then ring is only 24x24... pac can't run forever and cotto is a hard puncher. one punch from cotto can turn the fight around.
cotto is too big and has no excuse for losing to a former 106 lber.
Just maybe Landaman isn't good enough. Cotto foot work is just o.k, but he has to take it another level against Pac. Cotto got use to planting his feet too much. He needs to move and punch. If you don't train those things you can't expect to starts doing it in the ring. and if Cotto start trying to move quicker seeing that he can get Pac he might become fatigue a lot faster.
So that is why he should train at a faster pace so he can get into better condition. If cotto got fatigue in his other fights its for a reason. He just doesn't train hard enough. He doesn't know, because he doesn't have a good enough trainer. Margarito has a trainer that pushes him to the limit. He calls it like a military training. That's what Cotto needs.
If Cotto feels comfortable, who cares ?
I bet Manny would feel more comfortable if Roach wasn't strict as he is, but that won't help him be at his best. You can't know how something taste until you try it. And Cotto doesn't know what its like to be train by a real coach. Someone that can take you to another level that you never thought possible.
1) landman is a professional
2) cotto's foot work is good enough
3) cotto don't need to train to be quicker, just be trained to cut off the ring
he should train to control pace, not fight at a faster pace.
yes, cotto has stamina problems, but you can't train that away.
If that were the case Cotto would win.
Manny might be training to control the pace himself. Manny is a high volume puncher if Cotto stands still and if Cotto can't out punch him he might lose.
Cotto can't just expect to catch him and knock him out. That be too easy if he thinks that way.
Any one has the ability to improve in other aspects of their game to increase their ability and performance. They say style makes fights, but if you can improve your ability you can compete against other different styles instead of losing just because the other guys style was better or too much for you.
Boxing can be taking to another level never seen, but many boxers work on their skills instead of their ability to become a more complete fighter.
I saw Shane training in aerobics that can help your stamina and conditioning a whole lot. You can train anyway others don't think possible.
Yet there is a 10lbs difference.
I'm referring to the tale of the tape. Cotto is bigger while Manny is faster.
But Manny doesn't have to worry about this. Check out the reach.
If you have these advantages than you can hit Pac while Pac will have a harder time to hit you, because the more reach you have you can hit your opponent while your body stays at a larger margin of distance. And if your taller you can stand straight to make yourself even harder to reach. Mosley has at least three important advantages against Pac.
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I know that Clottey is a much better fighter than Jennings but aside from that, look at Cotto.
His speed, defense and power were a lot better in the Jennings fight than the Clottey fight.
Maybe it has to due with his trainers? Santiago's first job of training Cotto was for the Clottey fight. Maybe Evangelista was better as the trainer.
Maybe, but I have to say Cotto looked a lot better against Mosley than he did vs Clottey. After fighting Margarito he doesn't seem or look the same. I took a look at the Mosley, Cotto fight and he looked quick and strong. So quick that the announcers were saying he was quicker than Mosley and that his quickness was underestimated. If Cotto fought that day against Pac I think Cotto would have no trouble in taking him out.
Shane took Mayweather to the hole? I guess Mayweather wasn't to please. No wonder Floyd ducks him Mayweather might have felt in court that Mosley too physical for him.
If that's the case than Mayweather must have taken a pounding. Ouch.
The only "tool" Cotto has that JMM doesn't is natural size.
Outside of that, Santiago's on crack.
Looks like you might be taking some of that shit right now.
Doesn't help your judgment.
he didn't lose because of I.Q. he lost bcecause gayweather was too big
yep, jmm beats cotto if they were the same size.
I know, but still I don't think he's better than Cotto.
If they were the same size Marquez wouldn't have his quickness and that's the edge he had in light weight. Your hate for Cotto is huge in every thread.
I think you dream nightmares of Cotto.
mosley getting robbed is another issue.
jmm is better than cotto, but cotto is just too big for pac.
Cotto is too big. He was too big for Mosley and he's much too big for you.
So is that hard to say
well Im leaning toward the winner of pac cotto?
Wouldnt that avoid alot of questions and make him look good?
There's many reasons why Floyd won't say who he wants next. Many of the ones everyone knows, but I do know that he doesn't want it clearly to be known that he's just really interested in Pacquiao.
They're playing a game of who needs who the most and if he shows he's only interested in Pac then he would have to settle for Pacquiao's demands and that something he wants to avoid.
It's a Matter of catching the Mouse.
hatton isnt a welterweight period.
there's no way a former 106 lber should be able to beat a full fledged elite WW like cotto... there's no excuse for it!
There isn't a faster fighter in Welter Weight, thats whats makes Manny so unique. Plus Manny carries a good punch too.
Cotto doesn't have reach advantage and isn't much taller like a Shane or Mayweather. He' s biggest attribute is his power, his condition is questionable.
Don't you think that if Cotto can knock him out he will?
Of course he's going for the K.O., but Manny is quicker than Judah and Mosley he's also harder to get because he's so small.
But you can't hit what you can't touch, not to the point where he can hurt Pac. And if he can't get Pac it be a lot tougher at the end where Manny is still moving and Cottos not.
Hasn't Cotto look bad at the second half of the fight vs Clottey, Mosley and Margarito?
But if Cotto can have his hands on the mouse enough of times he'll eat him alive. But you can't blame Cotto if Manny doesn't get K.O., because Cotto will be trying. If Cotto gets PacThe only way he won't K.O. Pac if he's weak from losing weight or he doesn't have the strength at the end of the fight.
If Shane Mosley were younger and Manny Pacquiao was taller I have no doubt they would win. But you don't know what to expect from a 38 year old fighter that might have an off night or he might look rejuvenated.
While Mayweathers defense and height and reach advantages might be not too easy for Manny to deal with, but Manny has so much stamina and does a lot of combos where he might get one of those combinations through Mayweathers defense.
yep... but pac ain't no ww. cotto better win or be shamed for life
He's a better welter weight than Hatton.
Its no shame, but you want it to be for obvious reasons.
cotto got no business losing to a former 106 lber. he should win.
De La Hoya, Hatton, D.Diaz, J. Manuel Marquez etc. They all fought that same 108 pounder and lost.