I think it is stupid just to think that Porter who has a stupid right and left hook compared to Cotto's left hook and has just a fraction of Cotto's power will help Manny for Nov 14. The same goes for Jose Luis Castillo.
On November 14 Manny will feel Cotto's power and he will feel a different punch a real punch.... He will go to his corner and ask himself what have I done he punches so much harder than I was used to .. then my friends
The real fight will begin.....and all of you that think that he is doing great by sparring with those 2 batatas will understand why Cotto said he is not DLH or Hatton.
Porter is big, but he doesn't have Cotto's skills. Castillo has veteran savvy, but not Cotto's athleticism. Just because Pacquiao beats these guys, doesn't mean jack when he gets in the ring with Cotto. Good training for him of course, but it's not the real thing.
Sparring is just that. You can't compare that to da real thing. They just go there and help you imitating the other boxer style. Porter is a strong big guy, so Pac will c a big guy coming at him pushing him around throwing punches. Castillo a bully body puncher who don't stop throwing while getting hit. And Antillon very technical big guy, he's there for movement and work on somebody who cuts the ring well. At fight night Pac should b ready for all this, good sparring group, to me way better than my boy's.
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Sparring is just that. You can't compare that to da real thing. They just go there and help you imitating the other boxer style. Porter is a strong big guy, so Pac will c a big guy coming at him pushing him around throwing punches. Castillo a bully body puncher who don't stop throwing while getting hit. And Antillon very technical big guy, he's there for movement and work on somebody who cuts the ring well. At fight night Pac should b ready for all this, good sparring group, to me way better than my boy's.
We're literally talking about 2 of the best fighters in the world. You're not gonna find any sparring partners on the level of either Pacquiao or Cotto.
^^ that one dude... El Gato Figeuroa said he "held his own" against Cotto
Ok see everyone talks about emulating...
But then on fight night who is got the upper hand....
Is speed more important than power???????
Is Cotto's counter punching his best weapon to disable speed and we have seen it before with Mosley, Judah and we have to mention these 2 fighters dont have Manny's stamina but are true WW.
Cotto can have sparring partners without Manny's speed and stamina and during fight night he can adjust to Manny's speed with good counter punching
The question on this thread is...
How do you adjust to a different Punching Power level other than running and boxing all night?????????
How will this affect Manny's fighting plan if this is the case and he feels Cotto's punching power is too much to handle?
Roach stated that Pac won't be staying in front of Cotto, he has to dart in/dart out
even tho he's not tasted a welter punch before, i thnk Pac can take one but not too many
and he won't be fool enough to keep receiving them
i think its Cotto that underestimating Pac's power if he indeed try to bullrush him
We're literally talking about 2 of the best fighters in the world. You're not gonna find any sparring partners on the level of either Pacquiao or Cotto.
Hehehehe that is not what I've heard. I've heard that Manny's sparring partner Shawn Porter did not feel his power was enough to hurt Cotto with 1 punch.
So in your first post you are basically disrespecting Porter, and now you are saying he's too good to feel Pac's power?
Which is it?
Hehehehe that is not what I've heard. I've heard that Manny's sparring partner Shawn Porter did not feel his power was enough to hurt Cotto with 1 punch. Also they get paid they will just talk good stuff about Manny its ridiculous...
I am not saying Manny is not a good boxer its just that any sparring partner that finds a weakness never goes 100%. They know what is wrong and they will adjust during sparring sessions in order to avoid hurting the other fighter....
If you think this is not real then you have never boxed before.
I know guys that would kill for a thousand bucks. And the guys I spar are all just fellow fighters. They are not worried too much about my development, but more concentrated on their own. And if they can get me out of there, they will. You can't just depend upon the goodwill of someone in sparring, that's a good way to get clocked.
Maybe its a bit different in Manny's situation, granted. Because A, the boxers are paid to spar him, and B, he's a much more high profile boxer than anything I"m used to having in the gym.
well they're there to emulate Cotto's power esp. Porter
JLC's there as an agressive body puncher
Antillon as a good technical fighter (timing)
so i think there's not much of difference to say at least
Ok see everyone talks about emulating...
But then on fight night who is got the upper hand....
Is speed more important than power???????
Is Cotto's counter punching his best weapon to disable speed and we have seen it before with Mosley, Judah and we have to mention these 2 fighters dont have Manny's stamina but are true WW.
Cotto can have sparring partners without Manny's speed and stamina and during fight night he can adjust to Manny's speed with good counter punching
The question on this thread is...
How do you adjust to a different Punching Power level other than running and boxing all night?????????
How will this affect Manny's fighting plan if this is the case and he feels Cotto's punching power is too much to handle?
Maybe the same can be said about Cotto. While Cotto has supposley looked for Calderon as sparring partner among others. He might be surprise of the combination of power and speed that Pacquiao can display. Faster than Judah and Mosley while not being a sitting duck or too old to go 12 rounds without losing stamina.
Thanks for posting with some rationale behind it. This is what a forum should be like thanks.
We are talking about MAnny and his sparring partners. Sparring partners never go a 100% and believe me during fight night this will be a big difference.
well they're there to emulate Cotto's power esp. Porter
JLC's there as an agressive body puncher
Antillon as a good technical fighter (timing)
so i think there's not much of difference to say at least
Maybe the same can be said about Cotto. While Cotto has supposley looked for Calderon as sparring partner among others. He might be surprise of the combination of power and speed that Pacquiao can display. Faster than Judah and Mosley while not being a sitting duck or too old to go 12 rounds without losing stamina.
I think it is stupid just to think that Porter who has a stupid right and left hook compared to Cotto's left hook and has just a fraction of Cotto's power will help Manny for Nov 14. The same goes for Jose Luis Castillo.
On November 14 Manny will feel Cotto's power and he will feel a different punch a real punch.... He will go to his corner and ask himself what have I done he punches so much harder than I was used to .. then my friends
The real fight will begin.....and all of you that think that he is doing great by sparring with those 2 batatas will understand why Cotto said he is not DLH or Hatton.
They clearly can't get an exact clone of Cotto but they are trying with what they have. You never know how fast or how strong a fighter is until you get hit by them. It certainly helps that Porter fights a similar style to Cottos
I think Manny's sparring partners are better than Cotto's, at least.
If you offer sparring partners $$$ to knock you down, they will go pretty hard at you.
I think it was 1 thousands bucks Roach offered to sparring parters for a knock down of pac
Hehehehe that is not what I've heard. I've heard that Manny's sparring partner Shawn Porter did not feel his power was enough to hurt Cotto with 1 punch. Also they get paid they will just talk good stuff about Manny its ridiculous...
I am not saying Manny is not a good boxer its just that any sparring partner that finds a weakness never goes 100%. They know what is wrong and they will adjust during sparring sessions in order to avoid hurting the other fighter....
If you think this is not real then you have never boxed before.
I think Manny's sparring partners are better than Cotto's, at least.
We are talking about MAnny and his sparring partners. Sparring partners never go a 100% and believe me during fight night this will be a big difference.
If you offer sparring partners $$$ to knock you down, they will go pretty hard at you.
I think it was 1 thousands bucks Roach offered to sparring parters for a knock down of pac
well how does cotto's sparring partners compare to Pac?
at least Pac had a MIDDLEWEIGHT to test his endurance
We are talking about MAnny and his sparring partners. Sparring partners never go a 100% and believe me during fight night this will be a big difference.