He perhaps should have took a softer option for his return but it's understandable why he took the route he did. He knows now that he just don't have it anymore and hopefully he can walk away with no regrets.
Your right but i was thinking more of the novelty factor or exhibitions, Nelson and Fenech hadnt boxed in years and Jeff got massivly out of shape but they put on a pretty good fight
Sorry, I assumed the thread was talking about a serious comeback. Yeah, no reason why he couldn't step into the ring for an exhibition of some kind.
Well he's 2 years younger than Hopkins.
And 4 years younger than Holyfield.
He hasn't boxed in donkeys years and definitely won't be making a comeback. His comparative age with the likes of Hopkins and Holyfield would only have any relevance if he'd continued to be active over the years.
I like Floyd, he's undoubtedely a great fighter but I feel both Whitaker and Pryor would beat him. I won't entertain a Jones fight at 154 because Roy was still on the up and up when he boxed at that weight.
Shame we missed out on Kosta Zu-Mayweather.
Chavez would systematically take Valero apart.
You seriously cannot have seen Chavez fight if you claim him to be overrated. It really would be similar to Chavez-Rosario and when it was all over Valero would never be the same fighter again.
Real talk! When he's in the pocket rolling and dodging and counter its freaking amazing. Its too bad he's only there for about 45 seconds out of the 12 rounds. His skills are there but his cautious nature and snails pace bores the crape out of me.
I do think its hilarious that all the flomos use their little catch-phrase "sweet science". As if 90% of them know any other defensive boxers besides Floyd and Sweet Pea. Ironically, their styles are completely different and Sweet Pea was far from boring.
Agreed and for the purpose of adding an opinion there really isn't any comparison to be made between Floyd and Pernell. Whitaker earned his reputation by facing the best possible opposition. His elusiveness is up there with Pep. He's the best boxer of the last 20 years. No question.
Mayweather hasn't proven himself against the best (since moving up) and now people are telling me he's the best defensive boxer of all time, he's fighting the best welterweight around...and so on..
Come on, Mosley will have been inactive for 16 months and he's banging on 40's door. Fact is Mayweather has not only taken this fight because he was forced into a corner, he's taken it because he holds every conceivable advantage when taking into account age and activity.
Don't get me wrong, Mayweather is a brilliant fighter but he'll never rank amongst the greats because there are too many questions unanswered concerning his resume.
To this day I still think Glen Kelly was paid to lay down, or at least he layed down so he wouldn't suffer anymore emberassment. That behind the back punch was exciting and great showmanship, but it was a damn love tap. Didn't turn it over. Didn't use any leverage. Not much speed.
I agree with what you're saying...I don't think that punch knocked out Glen Kelly. He'd been embarrassed and outclassed. When somebody does something like that to you enough is enough.
Witter wins big for me in this one.
PRboxingfan......how can you suggest Malignaggi is the best in the world at 140 EVEN if Hatton came back to the division. What has he done to prove that?
Enlighten me?
ricky should stop complaining
who does he think he is?? the King of England?
he's earning a career high in money for the fight and
he's gonna fuckin get damn near 4,000 fans cheering for him
he should stop crying and just worry about fighting floyd
He's fed up because he would have loved for his army of fans, who have followed him for the long haul, to have been able to witness this fight at ringside.
Chavez would have destroyed Corrales....broken him in half, so the comparison between performances isn't a good one.
Of course PBF dominated Corrales more emphatically than Whitaker beat Chavez but at the end of the day Whitaker is better than all of them.
Hard not to. He thought he could walk through Floyd. Kinda perceived himself as indestructible. Detroyed by a fighter who isn't really that type of puncher.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Hatton struggle from here on. Kinda like Vargas.
Nah he was just self confident. Nothing wrong with that.
Personally I figured he'd give Floyd a tougher fight and lose on points but Mayweather was a level above. Too smart to let Hatton work inside.
It'll be interesting to see how he comes back...I'd like to see him box Malignaggi at the Garden and Witter somewhere over here. Then he may as well quit cos he'll never be a welter.
Floyd's not the greatest trash talker in that he gets boring very quickly. I had a bunch of mates round to watch the fight on Saturday and they ALL wanted Hatton to decapitate him, so I reckon he did a bloody good job bringing interest to the fight.
Hagler was close to breaking Monzon's record, and Spinks just moved up to HW to beat Larry fuckin' Holmes.
I dont think anyone on earth rated Curry above those two.
My post was to point out the fact that you and the other two threw quite a bit of bullshit in the thread. I was not making a point about the outcome of the fight, or the size of the upset.
Actually some people were calling Curry P4P no.1 at that time - some people were even predicting that he would be the man to move up and eventually topple Hagler - so I dispute the fact that I've posted any bullshit. Personally I never thought he was but that's neither here nor there.
On the contrary. P4P kings did not lose to scrubs like Hatton in their prime.
Name the P4P kings and the semi-bums they lost to ...while that top guy was still peak.
Lemme help you...
Oscar lost to Shane.
Shane lost to Forrest.
Tito lost to Hopkins.
Hopkins lost to Taylor.
Pernell lost to Oscar.
Chavez "lost" to Pernell.
Don Curry was arguably the P4P king when he lost to Honeyghan. Even the British press didn't give Honeyghan a chance in that one.
What's to say Hatton can't emulate that result? It's boxing...upsets are upsets and they're certainly not beyond the realms of possibility.
Jones was 35
Hopkins 40
Next, please
Taylor on the same level as Hatton? Please...
How come you forgot Tarver, btw?
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAH
OH MY GOD Marvin Hagler? Michael Spinks?
I said arguably because at the time he really was rated that highly.
Besides, that's a moot point. Hatton has more chance of beating Mayweather than Honeyghan did Curry, than Douglas did Tyson.
Upsets happen. If December 8th proves to be an upset it won't be a massive one so it's funny how people write Hatton off.
Doesn't matter, Joe won't leave Wales and Bernard is too smart to go over there and risk a bum stoppage ala Manfredo, or a bum decision infront of a hometown crowd. Same reason Joe won't come to the United States, because of fear of a bum decision.
They both need to get their shit together and fight in Canada.......
Hopkins won't back down on his demands so if this fight is going to happen it'll be in the US. If Joe really wants it he'll have to agree to Hopkins' terms.
Well, Floyd Mayweather, Jr ruptured Henry Bruseles' intentines. And he gave Sharmba Mitchell kidney failure. Bernard Hopkins broke four of Oscar's ribs.
Because, there's no difference between stopping somebody with a good body shot, and wildly exaggerating the tuth.
Well answer the question then.
Was it a good body shot?
Oh, and who is exaggerating the truth? Don't point that finger at me.
Wiley,
You state definitively that there is evidence. I ask you for the evidence. You send me elsewhere.
Mental note.
Broken rib or not.....was it a good shot?
Yes it most definitely was.
Maxy,
There are many people who share that perspective.
You would have a hard time finding Tszyu on many (ANY?) ATG lists. And he isn't in the upper echelon of many (so-called) experts' top JWW's lists.
He was stopped twice at his best weight class by two contemporaries. Without redemption for either.
You have to acknowledge the fecal matter on his curriculum vitae.
Well like I already said, I disagree with the people who share that perspective.
Curriculum vitae? Well its a resume where I'm from.
Ricky said he broke Castillo's rib/ribs. I've never seen a report to either confirm or dispute it but I've also never heard Castillo deny it.
Either way it was a cracking body shot.
Became two weight world champion so the hype was justified. I think the OP focused on fighters who didn't quite make it, that excludes a 140lb Ring champion.
I assume he was just playing.