Look at you who "doesn't care" about PPV numbers being damn near half the posts in the Mayweather-Guerrero thread :rofl:
Boxing fans don't care about PPV numbers you idiot......
only....sometimes
I'm gonna take it a step further.
And say If Margarito wasn't caught with those handwraps, dude would probably still be on a rolling tear today.
A big strong, tall, pressure fight with PLASTER is dangerous to anyone.
Floyd is 38 - 39.
Plus he would be fighting a naturally bigger man, he would lose, and no shame in losing to a much bigger guy, afterall this is no longer prime Mayweather.
HBO would never ever let GGG fight on Showtime, and vice versa. They're way too precious for either network to not have the TV deal.
So as far as your concerned, GGG is never gonna get his shot at the Lineal MW champ.
Martinez didn't give it to him, Canelo can't give it to him if he wins...And Cotto might consider it?
I think very few, if any fighters are going to fight 3G if they have other viable options. Canelo would fight Quillin/Jacobs or rematch Floyd before stepping in the ring with 3G. Also, isn't he a Showtime-exclusive fighter?
So Canelo and GGG would be Number 1 and 2 and can't fight??
Wouldn't that be shades of Pac and May?
So who would the media side on, who is ducking who, or would it be all good?
My question is, Ortiz has seen all the styles, heavy handed fighters, counter punchers, pressure fighters, ambush fighters.
Thurman has never fought anyone with the style of Ortiz, someone quicker than him, with power and combinations and for once a man equal to his size.
Why don't you quit being a little pussy and just say white people instead of certain people? If you're gonna race-bait, at least be direct.
I admit that GGG is overrated as hell at the moment by some but you can't call him a hype job until he's tested and fails.
Why not, people were calling Broner and Berto hype jobs before they failed?
Granted, GGG has faced much STIFFER competition than they did at this point.
Bradley doesn't have no damn legacy and could use the money. Floyd doesn't need money and needs to fight one guy and that's Pacquiao. I also wouldn't be surprised if some of the GB guys you listed beat Tim.
So are you saying that for some reason he couldn't build a legacy for some weird reason?
lol what makes you think GBP would've matched him up against other top guys?
Look at the kind of fights they're putting together atm...
Lets be real, he would have been matched up with other top guys sooner or later.
I'm absolutely on top of the moon!
I am too.
I told people that Kell Brook was the truth.
He was always a POISED, calm, counter puncher with GOOD power.
And lets not forget that Brook was never stunned, but he DID have Porter stunned 3-4 times.
I bet if this was a gym in Mexico or Philippines or Cuba people would be posting about what true warriors they are and how fraud puss*es like Gayweather would duck the sparring and do pitty pat mitt work all day.
It doesn't even have to be a Mexico or Philippines gym, it could be Roberto Garcia's Boxing Academy in California and you have to understand that everyone their would be labeled WARRIORS
Like the Antonio Margarito's of the world.
Not surprising, unless you are President of the United States, its possible to run into someone that does not recognize you.
I know women in the US that don't know how Mayweather, Pacquiao, Tyson are. Maybe Jordan and Ali.
But I know some younger people who don't even know who Ali is.
Damnnnnn, Mayweather is mad though, he looked like he wanted to hit her.
Nobody's ego should ever be that big that they get upset, when someone doesn't know them.
The only person who holds that title is a President, not a boxer, soccer player, singer, no one.
Maybe Micheal Jackson.
Me personally I'm old school, I believe that the guy who beats the number 1 P4P guy becomes number 1 but it all depends on what they did before, were they on a destruction path?
So if Maidana beats Floyd by KO or by a clean decision, I would label WLAD as number 1
When people say big fights, we aren't talking about BIG MONEY, ya know..
Canelo/Mayweather, Pacquiao/Mayweather, Tyson/Holyfield as far as PPV or Monetary.
We are talking about great fights that can happen
Such as
Timothy Bradley Vs Danny Garica
Danny Garcia Vs Ruslan
Broner Vs Bradley
Amir Khan Vs Bradley
Pacquiao Vs Thurman
Pacquiao Vs Mayweather
There are a ton of great fights that can be made.
You can't tell me that none of those fights above interest you
You know, I always liked Ellerbe. I admired his loyalty and dedication to Floyd. I thought he did a great job as Floyd's special assistant and I could see he loved Floyd with all his heart, all his soul and all his mind.
In fact, the only thing I liked about Floyd was his man Leonard. Floyd always looked happy when he was with Leonard, it appeared like they loved each other. But now I realize their love was a one-way street.
Now, there's absolutely nothing I like about Floyd.
Floyd will never find another man who loves him like Leonard Ellerbe.
He probably will never find someone as loyal, agreed.
And loyal is a strong word when your talking the kind of people Floyd keeps around him
Good for Leonard Ellerbe, he has now gained millions of Pac fans.
After years of Pac fans bashing Leonard, he will now become a great man and join the likes of 50 Cent.
I can see it now.
Well realistically, Devon "The great" can't take any more losses, or that "The Great" part goes out the window quickly.
If there's a hold up, it would be because Haymon doesn't want to sacrifice Devon.
Don't be surprised to see Devon fight someone easier.
Top 10 Heavyweights (not in order)
1. Ali
2. Sonny Liston
3. Jack Johnson
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Evander Holyfield
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Joe Frazier
8. George Foreman
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Joe Louis
Runner ups
Larry Holmes
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
I really see NO WAY, that anyone can seriously squeeze Mike Tyson in over any of these guys. Mike beat alot of bums and looked very good, once he stepped up in class, he didn't look so hot.
He was not a huge underdog. Don't even think he was +200
Doesn't change the fact that MOST thought he would lose.
And he did it in fashion, were talking Magician all night long.
This dude came to the U.S. and showed out on Shawn Porter.