A determined Ortiz at that, the same one we saw against Andre Berto.
I might be crazy, but I think the hand speed, movement, power, angles would give Thurman all kinds of problems.
Who you got?
Everyone beats Ortiz. Even Broner. And the same people hyping Thurman are the people who hyped Broner and said Maidana was going to get knocked out by Broner, etc. I've learned to not be bothered by the hype train. But, the fact that we are discussing Ortiz in a fight truly boggles the mind.
Hype job Thurman could probably beat him now, but where was Thurman hiding when all these guys like Maidana, Ortiz, Berto, Alexander, Lopez, etc were fighting each other? Why is Thurman's resume looks like crap as compared to these guys, and now people say Thurman can beat them all?
And the only reason why Thurman can beat them is because they're battle- weary.
A determined Ortiz at that, the same one we saw against Andre Berto.
I might be crazy, but I think the hand speed, movement, power, angles would give Thurman all kinds of problems.
Who you got?
Ortiz is done bro, just accept it and move on. At this stage I don't care how determined he showed up against Keith Thurman, he wouldn't last.
I like Victor Ortiz and followed his career but I'm realistic.
A determined Ortiz at that, the same one we saw against Andre Berto.
I might be crazy, but I think the hand speed, movement, power, angles would give Thurman all kinds of problems.
Who you got?
He could beat him but he lost his drive he wants to hang out with Arnold and Rocky Balboa
Ortiz is a full time actor and part time boxer. His heart aint in this no more. 3 straight losses by KO. A young hungry lion like thurman would slay ortiz.
Ortiz is shot to *****, with no ambition, heart or love for the sport. Unless he gets Keith out of there in the first round he gets battered and stopped by Thurman.
Seriously though, Ortiz is irrelevant at this time.
My question is, Ortiz has seen all the styles, heavy handed fighters, counter punchers, pressure fighters, ambush fighters.
Thurman has never fought anyone with the style of Ortiz, someone quicker than him, with power and combinations and for once a man equal to his size.