Wilder and his fanbase's legacy was defined by this fight. They are truly the greatest excuse makers of all time. The sheer number of excuses. The succession at which they appeared. The increasingly ridiculous nature of them. The persistence in which they were repeated. We are witnessing greatness.
Who was the last great American HW? Bowe? He had one great performance. Tyson? That was 30+ years ago. All the other recent American HWs either cherrypicked their way into a title, like Wilder, or were exposed when they stepped up in competition, like Mitchell or Kownacki.
Oh goodness I remember the Seth Mitchell hype train.
Again, he himself said that he wanted all the smoke from 154 to 168.
I don't speak ebonics. Do you mean he was willing to fight anyone from 154 to 168? Okay. He never fought at 168 and Ward moved permanently to 175 in 2015.
Trump hasn't given the green light on boxing just yet. Most of his supporters are Wrasslin' and UFC fans so he's taking care of those guys first.
What? This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with Florida. They gave the green light for sports. UFC and WWE played ball while boxing is still holding out for Vegas to reopen.
Lol. You’re so confused and perhaps a casual...Catchweights weren’t originally made to disadvantage fighters. Catchweights were specifically made to unite two boxers from separate classes to meet in the middle. The fighters you mentioned didn’t create the culture.
Many of you don’t even understand Catchweights. “Caneloweight” was never a catchweight. That was just A side implementation, and more importantly, Lara, Angulo and Kirkland fought at 155 and above many fights before Canelo ever approached 155.
I'm glad you've finally admitted what a disgusting sham the 155 title reign was.
I like Golovkin but his fanboys are intolerable. Golovkin was not a name in 2012. Nobody knew who he was. He was not a draw yet. He was on his way up. Martinez was on his way out. So when exactly should they have fought?
These are the same fans who think the Cotto fight "exposed" Martinez and willfully ignore the multiple knee surgeries and being dragged out of retirement as a hobbling old man
Why do you think this way? HBO would’ve given nice paydays to both fighters if the fight was made. When Margarito moved “permanently” to 154 did he not fight a smaller guy at a catch?
How come no narrative exists that GGG vs Ward could’ve been anywhere from 168-175?
GGG himself said 168 was easy. Abel Sanchez said when GGG’s “popularity” were big that he’d have to move up, that “it may be even at 175.”
Why do GGG fans gravitate to low standards or is it merely they just don’t like fighters they hate associated to his name?
It will always be true that GGG stans stem from PAC stans. That’s just the way it is. As Floyd said, “y’all just funna hop onto the next.”
Why is this place so fixated on assuming others must be stans for fighters? I'm critical of any fighter using catchweights like Canelo, Pacquiao, Floyd, whoever.
Golovkin wasted years away on bad management and subpar opposition. Then when he finally stepped into the limelight he was aging so his supposed greatness will always be hypothetical and not actualized.
That doesn't mean he had to go to 168 or 175. And Ward himself was perfectly happy wasting his own prime away on subpar fights.
For the longest time guys were being overpaid for bad fights. Events were even losing money in some cases. Floyd for all his faults actually backed up his purse demands with huge buyrates. A lot of these modern guys expect the same money with no financial justification.
I still don't understand how you can duck fighters in divisions above you. Did he duck Wlad too?
I pose this question in every thread. You don't keep growing your entire life. So how many divisions does a fighter have to move up in their career before you stop calling them a coward? 3? 5? All the way to heavyweight?
Any economic experts on here who explain how networks are making a profit from fighters demanding million dollar purses for low six figure viewers? I just don't see where the value is.
No. Heavyweight division is for the big boys and anybody who can't hang there can always move down to cruiserweight.
This question always got posed in the Klitschko era by fans angry their favorite fighters couldn't compete.
Delaying their main event until after 10pm ET, will probably give them a small boost, when the finals come out, from people who tuned in expecting to see their local news. However, since those are mostly old people, their demographic numbers will continue to underperform. Even golf was able to kick boxing's ass with relative ease getting 5x more young male viewers.
So they need to trick people into watching boxing by pretending it's the local news?
Oh great here comes a sea of reaction videos and tweets from nobodies giving their thoughts on Tyson Fury saying crude words they don't like.
Bunch of pearl clutching sissy boys pretending they have PTSD or something.
It was a bullsht backdated ban. It really wasn’t a ban at all.
The answer to the threads question is that fury is white and he beat a black man for a heavyweight belt. That’s why he gets a pass. A lot of white men have inferiority complexes when it comes to black men.
That's funny considering whites are at the top of half the divisions right now while asians and latinos are at the top of the rest.
At least you have 147 and 154 I guess.
Of course. All sports evolve and the talent becomes better as time goes on. Only in boxing does globalizing a sport make it less competitive according to those blinded by nostalgia.
Saying Ali would beat the heavyweights of the 2010's is just as ridiculous as saying Gene Tunney would beat the heavyweights of the 1970's.