Ffwd to 1 minute mark and you’ll see The biggest ggg supporter admit that Lg ducked Ward
https://youtu.be/u5QL-D1qYo4
And of course there has always been from Lg himself in 2014 so review your timeline before you try to provide us with fake news
https://youtu.be/G6_IPGpBlYs
Ffwd to 1 minute mark and you’ll see The biggest ggg supporter admit that Lg ducked Ward
https://youtu.be/u5QL-D1qYo4
And of course there has always been from Lg himself in 2014 so review your timeline before you try to provide us with fake news
https://youtu.be/G6_IPGpBlYs
Triple B side always rejected fighting scrubs to box Gods like El Veneno Rubio & Dominic Wade !
like this clown...
nothing had changed... because, Golovkin had done NOTHING
FACT: the guy who built his name by threatening to fight "anyone from 154-168"... killed FOUR HUGE fights over weight LMAO
and stop blurting out that nonsense about Lemieux...
Golovkin did not duck Ward for Lemieux... he ducked Ward for Wade and Brook lol :lol1:
These dudes are so fuking stupid
Then they get mad and say we are haters.
like this clown...
Use CONTEXT. You give a 2013 article when GGG had left Germany, was trying to just hurry up and fight top fighters for serious money in the US. 2013. To make himself known, he name-drops Mayweather and Canelo--he could cut weight to get a big fight. WHAT WOULD YOU DO???
Again, CONTEXT. You use a November 2016 article that was written AFTER Ward sent a contract AFTER GGG had ALREADY SIGNED TO FIGHT LEMIEUX!! How is that a duck??? Use some sense, hater. Besides...WHAT WOULD YOU DO?? Fight Ward for "show money" like Kovalev did???
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/andre-ward-sergey-kovalev-ii-fight-purses-krusher-to-receive-no-show-money/
Haters like you have no sense of CONTEXT or LOGIC. Period.
nothing had changed... because, Golovkin had done NOTHING
FACT: the guy who built his name by threatening to fight "anyone from 154-168"... killed FOUR HUGE fights over weight LMAO
and stop blurting out that nonsense about Lemieux...
According to Yormark, Roc Nation was never afforded the opportunity to discuss weight, the financial terms, potential dates, which fighter was the A-side or any other factor - because their offer was turned down in 36 minutes.
"I respect Tom and he's a nice man, but as it relates to this issue - he's way off-base," Yormark told BoxingScene.com. "The chatter that you've been hearing from Triple G's camp is inappropriate, inaccurate and we need to clear this up immediately."
"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."
"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.
"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes , so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.
"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.
"The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, and get in there with one of the best fighters in the world, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.' That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."
"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."
"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."
Based on the circumstances, Ward and Roc Nation have moved on. Yormark was unable to confirm the details, but according to multiple sources in the industry - Ward is going to move up to light heavyweight, commit to a multi-fight deal with HBO, and eventually face light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev in a high profile showdown in 2016. Ward's return is slated for the Cotto-Alvarez HBO Pay-Per-View undercard.
An official announcement regarding Ward's future is coming soon, says Yormark.
"Triple G has fought journeymen for his entire career. It's obvious. We all know that. Andre Ward has fought the best of the best. Triple was at the top of his list. He was denied the opportunity to fight him in 36 minutes, so we've moved on. We'll be announcing our plans in the very near future, as to what Andre will be doing for the remainder of 2015 and in 2016. But we are moving on because we want to move forward and fight the best," Yormark said.
Golovkin did not duck Ward for Lemieux... he ducked Ward for Wade and Brook lol :lol1:
I would have kept my big lying mouth shut about Ward and Canelo
Golovkin: Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154...
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398/
1 year later, Golovkin killed both of those fights over weight LMAO
you fanboys can blurt out all the excuses you want... but REAL fans can remember exactly what happened...
Golovkin & Ward: Who Is Ducking Who?
"Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true."
https://www.thefightcity.com/golovkin-vs-ward-gennady-golovkin-andre-ward-kovalev-boxing/
Use CONTEXT. You give a 2013 article when GGG had left Germany, was trying to just hurry up and fight top fighters for serious money in the US. 2013. To make himself known, he name-drops Mayweather and Canelo--he could cut weight to get a big fight. WHAT WOULD YOU DO???
Again, CONTEXT. You use a November 2016 article that was written AFTER Ward sent a contract AFTER GGG had ALREADY SIGNED TO FIGHT LEMIEUX!! How is that a duck??? Use some sense, hater. Besides...WHAT WOULD YOU DO?? Fight Ward for "show money" like Kovalev did???
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/andre-ward-sergey-kovalev-ii-fight-purses-krusher-to-receive-no-show-money/
Haters like you have no sense of CONTEXT or LOGIC. Period.
Kellerman is hebrew, which means he will always take the side of the black over the white. Automatic. Even if he has to fake some lies to support his assertion.
Ward faked wanting GGG and never pushed hard for the fight. While his career stagnated in inactivity, he mumbled the name GGG a few times and the media ran with it. But if Ward really wanted GGG he would have pushed far harder to make it happen, and not run to 175. Ward knew it was not a logical fight but he needed some positive press and fake hunting GGG was good for his PR.
Then there is the secret story about HBO having GGG and Ward in the conference room and both were asked in NYC if they wanted the fight, GGG said Yes, Ward said no.
get corona you lame piece-of-shlt... hopefully today
Why is it that GGG haters do not use business sense, logic, or context when discussing him? Part 1 of plan when GGG moved to USA---make a name, bang the drums, get a following.
Part 2...make the most money he can (Mayweather, Cotto, Canelo)
How does making peanuts in a Ward fight that gives neither money nor legacy make any sense in any world other than in a hater's mind? Really? Please tell me how a fight at 168 vs Ward for $2M is better for GGG than ANY fight that GGG took at 160? Please?? Did it extend his MW defenses? No. Did it get him a $20M payday? No. What would YOU do????
I would have kept my big lying mouth shut about Ward and Canelo
Golovkin: Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154...
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398/
1 year later, Golovkin killed both of those fights over weight LMAO
you fanboys can blurt out all the excuses you want... but REAL fans can remember exactly what happened...
Golovkin & Ward: Who Is Ducking Who?
"Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds, whereas judging Ward by his upcoming test next weekend, the reverse is true."
https://www.thefightcity.com/golovkin-vs-ward-gennady-golovkin-andre-ward-kovalev-boxing/
Golovkin said he was willing to fight anyone from 154 to 168, doe.
I don't care what he or any fighter says, generally.
Floyd says he's "the best ever". I don't take that seriously either.
It's just not possible to duck someone who's never been in the same weight class as you.
Blah.... Can you imagine being a Lil G fan and ALWAYS having to defend that sht????
I mean when he RAN out if the ring CRYING to boo's he left his fans alone with all the pissed off Canelo fans that heard them talk sht all NITE!!!! A bunch got beat the fuk up and were running like ggg did.. .
Um, I watched both fights, and what I heard was the (heavily Mexican) fans booing the decision, not GGG, because even they knew he got robbed
Ok first off 95 percent of the ggg fan based claimed at one point that Floyd ducked GGG @ 154, and they also claim that Ward ducked Golovkin @164 so hey man you can either call me ridiculous for exposing that Golovkin wanted nothing to do with that fight or you call them ridiculous for all the bs narratives
I can't answer for other GGG fans, but all I know is I never expected Floyd to fight GGG or any other Middleweights, considering that he couldn't even make 154 to fight Canelo.
You guys' problem is that you stereotype about who you think fans are.
I'm black & I'm a fan of GGG
I'm a fan of Deontay Wilder
I'm a fan of Shawn Porter
I'm a fan of Monster Inoue.
You're not obligated to just stick for people the same color as you.
Kellerman is hebrew, which means he will always take the side of the black over the white. Automatic. Even if he has to fake some lies to support his assertion.
That's ridiculous.
There's plenty of racist jews.
Just look at how they treat black jews in Israel.
There were plenty of jews involved with the slave trade.
I swear you dudes just say shxt to say it.
You still following me around with your bargain basement logic Scrappy? You getting desperate for some attention or something you pathetic old coot? :lol1:
you still blurting out lame excuses to justify why your pacifist girlfriend ducked everyone who posed the slightest threat? :D
whenever a lying coward needs a pom-pom waving fairy... there you are, with bells on... right on cue LMAO
you must have forgot the way golovkin fans acted in the couple of years leading up to the fight..."canelo is a poosy...canelo is yellow...canelo is chicken...if canelo ever grows balls golovkin will end his career by savagely ko'ing him"
first fight happens
then its "canelo ran...if he ever grows balls and fights golovin like true mexican style golovkin will give him a career ending beatdown"
2nd fight happens
"the jab though...we won both fights clearly"
LOL...i dont even like canelo like that...but most golovkin fans border on pathetic
So who is Canelo's best win? I agree fanboys are pathetic but haters are as bad.
I'm a GGG fan but I don't hate Alvarez, he's a good fighter but there's hype there too.
beterbiev/gvozdyk was in front of like 3k people.....this clown will tell me ward ducked him and that someone would have paid ward 7-10 mil to fight beterbiev lol
Why is Ward sitting in retirement now in what should be his prime years? Was he that bad of a draw that there is zero demand to see any of his BS fights?
ward retired because there wasnt a single guy to fight at 175 that would have brought him as much, or more, money as the kovalev fights
beterbiev was still fighting the likes of enrico koelling...lol...
even right now ward/beterbiev wouldnt be worth 7 mil for ward to anyone.....
Kellerman is hebrew, which means he will always take the side of the black over the white. Automatic. Even if he has to fake some lies to support his assertion.
Ward faked wanting GGG and never pushed hard for the fight. While his career stagnated in inactivity, he mumbled the name GGG a few times and the media ran with it. But if Ward really wanted GGG he would have pushed far harder to make it happen, and not run to 175. Ward knew it was not a logical fight but he needed some positive press and fake hunting GGG was good for his PR.
Then there is the secret story about HBO having GGG and Ward in the conference room and both were asked in NYC if they wanted the fight, GGG said Yes, Ward said no.
ward didnt fake anything...team golovkin even confirmed they were contacted...and ward had just come off being inactive and contacted after the smith fight....team golovkin told ward they werent interested and confirmed it publicly that they were contacted
"secret story"...yup...why is it such a secret? lol@2012 when golovkin was still fighting proska and nobody knew who golovkin was....so golovkin was gonna fight ward at 168 in 2012? lol....golovkin still hasnt won a belt or moved up to 168...ward moved up and remained unbeaten in another weight class...its a "secret" because its a made up myth or taken out of context...
also...you are a huge loser fyi
Lol. You’re so confused and perhaps a casual...Catchweights weren’t originally made to disadvantage fighters. Catchweights were specifically made to unite two boxers from separate classes to meet in the middle. The fighters you mentioned didn’t create the culture.
Many of you don’t even understand Catchweights. “Caneloweight” was never a catchweight. That was just A side implementation, and more importantly, Lara, Angulo and Kirkland fought at 155 and above many fights before Canelo ever approached 155.
I'm glad you've finally admitted what a disgusting sham the 155 title reign was.
they lied to their fans for years
and they lied about fighters who they were unwilling to face
GayLoveKin fans be like... "oh well... he made money doe... that is what I describe as successful"
#bottomfeeders
they used to hate on any fighter that made a "business decision".....now in the last few years those decisions are ok and cool when they used to scream "fight for pride and honor...to see who the best is"...now they toss around "business decision and im ok with that" like its nothing...like real dudes dont remember the stuff they said
Exactly, i used to argue all those points. And the haters would almost always just stop responding and then make a new thread saying the same thing tho they never offered a counter argument in the previous thread. And then i noticed how many threads they were making. I didn't have all this time to invest in something so trivial by constantly responding, which is a propaganda technique btw - tell so many lies and falsehoods that no one has time to correct them all. Eventually i think they get their fill but then there's new guys researching this stuff for the first time and then want start arguing with people all over again and the cycle repeats itself. I've seen it at least 3 or 4 times now between this website and another. I've learned it's best just to ignore them. They just have a disinformation agenda based on their own hate for GGG. Facts are little more than inconveniences that can swiftly be brushed aside for them.
Me too man. Those trolls literally live here and are available to respond at all hours and unlike them I got a job, life, friends and family, and hobbies I love a lot more than boxing.
What's even more hilarious is how these online "boxing experts" dont even know the basics of the sport but pretend they do. Must suck to have miserable lives and only have boxingscene as an outlet.
Its hella sad because they're literally so stupid they couldnt even comprehend how stupid they actually are because they lack basic intelligence.
But at the same time it's pretty funny watching them say the same **** over and over despite the fact they have been proven wrong over and over again and showing how big of hypocrites they are.
Example
"GGG chose to beat smaller guys (wade and brook) but ducked andre Ward"
But ******s are literally too stupid to realize that Wade was the IBF mandatory and that Brook was a late replacement for eubank jr. So GGG didnt necessary "choose" anyone. Dont fight Wade and lose his belt. Dont fight Brook and dont fight at all? Some choices.
And then they rag that GGG is just picking on smaller guys, but Ward isnt picking on GGG who is a smaller guy right? Because career 168lber Ward isnt picking on career 160lber GGG right?
Ward also turned down the fight in 2013.
Ward also couldn't make weight in 2015 and didnt want the fight until 2016 after tune ups.
Ward was also the B side who demanded a 50/50 split. LMAO
Okay. "GGG ducked Ward"
I guess Mayweather also ducked GGG (which I dont believe) because GGG offer 154 to Mayweather.
Did mayweather also duck Ward too? Who claimed he could make 160 for that fight? Lmfao
These people are literally so stupid
Exactly, i used to argue all those points. And the haters would almost always just stop responding and then make a new thread saying the same thing tho they never offered a counter argument in the previous thread. And then i noticed how many threads they were making. I didn't have all this time to invest in something so trivial by constantly responding, which is a propaganda technique btw - tell so many lies and falsehoods that no one has time to correct them all. Eventually i think they get their fill but then there's new guys researching this stuff for the first time and then want start arguing with people all over again and the cycle repeats itself. I've seen it at least 3 or 4 times now between this website and another. I've learned it's best just to ignore them. They just have a disinformation agenda based on their own hate for GGG. Facts are little more than inconveniences that can swiftly be brushed aside for them.
Honestly i just ignore them, some people think it's better to respond but these guys literally get off on responses about GGG. It's like p.orn for them. I mean the boxer i probably hate most is Amir Khan and i can't imagine myself having like 50 post a day about him. It's amazing how much time in these guys lives have been dedicated to GGG. It's pretty sad actually.
Its hella sad because they're literally so stupid they couldnt even comprehend how stupid they actually are because they lack basic intelligence.
But at the same time it's pretty funny watching them say the same **** over and over despite the fact they have been proven wrong over and over again and showing how big of hypocrites they are.
Example
"GGG chose to beat smaller guys (wade and brook) but ducked andre Ward"
But ******s are literally too stupid to realize that Wade was the IBF mandatory and that Brook was a late replacement for eubank jr. So GGG didnt necessary "choose" anyone. Dont fight Wade and lose his belt. Dont fight Brook and dont fight at all? Some choices.
And then they rag that GGG is just picking on smaller guys, but Ward isnt picking on GGG who is a smaller guy right? Because career 168lber Ward isnt picking on career 160lber GGG right?
Ward also turned down the fight in 2013.
Ward also couldn't make weight in 2015 and didnt want the fight until 2016 after tune ups.
Ward was also the B side who demanded a 50/50 split. LMAO
Okay. "GGG ducked Ward"
I guess Mayweather also ducked GGG (which I dont believe) because GGG offer 154 to Mayweather.
Did mayweather also duck Ward too? Who claimed he could make 160 for that fight? Lmfao
These people are literally so stupid
Why do you think this way? HBO would’ve given nice paydays to both fighters if the fight was made. When Margarito moved “permanently” to 154 did he not fight a smaller guy at a catch?
How come no narrative exists that GGG vs Ward could’ve been anywhere from 168-175?
GGG himself said 168 was easy. Abel Sanchez said when GGG’s “popularity” were big that he’d have to move up, that “it may be even at 175.”
Why do GGG fans gravitate to low standards or is it merely they just don’t like fighters they hate associated to his name?
It will always be true that GGG stans stem from PAC stans. That’s just the way it is. As Floyd said, “y’all just funna hop onto the next.”
Why is it that GGG haters do not use business sense, logic, or context when discussing him? Part 1 of plan when GGG moved to USA---make a name, bang the drums, get a following.
Part 2...make the most money he can (Mayweather, Cotto, Canelo)
How does making peanuts in a Ward fight that gives neither money nor legacy make any sense in any world other than in a hater's mind? Really? Please tell me how a fight at 168 vs Ward for $2M is better for GGG than ANY fight that GGG took at 160? Please?? Did it extend his MW defenses? No. Did it get him a $20M payday? No. What would YOU do????