Damn! Pacquiao cherrypicked all the fighters above him.
That's just the kind of guy he is, he moves UP in weight and "cherry picks" dudes wranked above him. Man boxing needs more "cherry pickers" like that.
It don't matter because they're all old/shot now. Who cares if that list is from only 6 months before Pac started taking them on, they all suck now that Pac has/will fight them!
No they weren't now ur just acting stupid. Cotto and clotty had just fought each other and while it was a close fight it wasn't the kind of war that would take anything out of either of them. Some people had cotto winning that fight and pac beat the **** out of him. Other people had clotty winning that fight and pac made that guy look like an amature. Don't try to rewrite history. And Haton wasn't old or washed up when he got him some, and dude ended up getting retired. Either some people really can't remember what was going on when those fights went down or their hate just makes them fantasize up some **** that never happened.
He fought them little by little. Mosley after coming off a loss and a draw. Margarito coming a loss and a win over a journeyman, Clottey coming off a loss, Cotto was the best guy he fought there, at 145.
Marg had just came back from a long ass suspension and didn't look good in the fight before pac, but he didn't lose. He looked pretty good in the ring when he did finally face pac, but he got out classed. Lets wait to see how he looks in the future before we try to write that performance off as well. U would thing marg is a bum the way some of u fools talk. He cheated, got caught, and now is trying to come back. Lets not forget how he looked before he cheated though, dude isn't an easy fight for anyone. And half the people who saw cotto/clottey had clottey winning that fight, ur being disingenuous.
This is a fight worth salivating over.
Totally agree, except for floyd this fight is the ONE. It HAS TO HAPPEN. Sure I got vic getting stopped but who cares, it would be one hell of a war. These kind of epic fights NEED TO HAPPEN if boxing is ever gonna grow out of ugly stepchild status. There are plenty of dudes out there who play hit and don't get hit, it's just not as fun to watch. U get a casual sports fan in front of a war like this one, ****, u got a boxing fan for life.
I seriously doubt that. Sergio might be desperate, but he s not stupid. He d get ****ed up if he tried to make 150. The dude is too big to be ****ing with pac, he needs to look up, not down.
there's probably been more threads on that subject than buys...
i seriously dont understand the obsession with ppv number on here
It's pretty hilarious actually. You never hear anyone talking about Tom Bradey's superbowl ratings. You don't hear NBA fans b1tching about who has a more lucrative contract. I've always thought talking about someone else's money was chick sh1t. If you have a sack hanging between your legs, putting another mans money in your mouth just doesn't look right to me. But hey, boxing has degenerated into a kind of sideshow type sport. I guess everything should be expected when your relegated to the fringe...
No
No way in hell. Even floyds not that crazy, dude can't even walk down the street without people asking him about pac. Every where floyd goes that's all he hears, pac this, pac that. Given the fact that he really seems to genuinely dislike the man, I find it very hard to believe he'd have the stones to deal with the avalanche of **** he'd catch if he came back and didn't fight manny. He wouldn't even be able to take a **** in peace.
His rep has been shot to ****, his fans are turning on him, he's got 95 percent of the main stream media calling him out, and that's today. Imagine if he came back from his "vacation" to fight anyone not named manny pacquaio...It would be a feeding frenzy, and his ass would be the main course.
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Manny would whup me all day long and Roach would make the decision to be in Manny's corner in less than a blink of the eye.
I don't know if u can even call it a "decision". It's like u wanna drive this Mazda or that Ferrari. The "decision" would indeed come quick...
This kind of **** belongs on a retard site right next to jews rule the world and we never really went to the moon. I really can't believe people are talking about manny pacquiao, the man who comes INTO the ring at 144-148 fighting the MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD. Yeah no big deal, if pac is so good just fight sergio, so what he'll be out weighed by 25 pounds MINIMUM. Let me ask u this, why doesn't floyd step up to Brute then? Weight classes do matter, u can't give up 25 or 30 pounds to a beast like sergio unless ur a ****ing retard and u wanna get ****ed up. It's just stupid to even talk about, I'm surprised so called "boxing fans" are taking this stupid **** seriously. What's next, pac vs brute. Pac vs klitchco? I mean come on now, lets try and act like intelligent boxing fans. If u really wanna see this fight why don't sergio come down to 150 just like margacheato? if there the "same size" what's the problem?
Problem is there not the same size, pac doesn't belong anywhere near 154, and sergio should be looking one size up, not two and a half sizes down. Lets be real and stop the bull****.
If sergio and cheato are the same size, why can't segio come down to 150? He can't, because there not the same size. Pretty simple ****. As I said before, martinez should be looking one size up, not two and a half sizes down. Pad didn't belong anywhere near 150 and it showed. Asking the man to move to 154 and give up 30 pounds to segio is beyond stupid.
I would go back and watch it again but I don't think my eyes can take the damage... I remember thinking mosley BARELY won when I saw it, so I guess I'll stick to my original statement.
Bradley: No
Berto: Yes
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Hope Bradley destroys amir. If amir doesn't headbutt himself into another victory that is.
I know u didn't just defend bradley and talk **** about amir headbutting?!?!?! U do know bradley is a headbutting phenom right?
BTW bradley is gonna whoop that fool. Khan is over hyped like a mug. WAR DESERT STORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Floyd came back to make money to get the IRS off his back and to have people belive that he is still the p4p best. The so called hit list never existed his actions show he just wanted to get some more fanfare and make some cash.(nothing wrong with both)
When Floyd annouced his return to boxing in 2009 many thought it was to take on current p4p king Manny Pacquiao. From what has happened after that announcement took place shows maybe that wasn't really his plan to begin with.
His first fight coming back to the sport was against Pac archrival JMM, who had given Manny problems in their previous 2 bouts. A solid win over JMM could put Floyd right in hunt for the p4p title while not being much of a threat by taking on someone much smaller then himself.
Manny at the time was set to face Hatton who was being trained by Floyd's father. If Floyd's plan was to take on Pac to begin with why would you announce your returm before this fight takes place. Unless your real target isn't Pac but Hatton.
This would make perfect sense. You beat the guy who gave Pac trouble, and then you rematch Hatton in London for big money, after he beats Pac like your father has been telling you he will. As we all know this didn't happen. Hatton got laid out in the 2nd rd. Now this is where the plan starts to back fire.
Floyd decides what the hell I'll fight Pac, if he could handle JMM with such ease and Manny had such a hard time with him, Floyd's size should prevail again over the smaller man.
Then the Cotto fight happened. Manny showed he could take the punches of a bigger man and break a bigger man down. Floyd began to think this fight wasn't going top be as easy as he thought. As the chants of "We want Floyd!" echoed through the arena, Floyd knew this would be a hard fight to duck.
Just days after the Cotto fight Floyd challenges Pac to call him out if he wants a fight. Pac calls him out. Then Floyd wants the fight in March just 4 months after the tough Cotto fight, Pac agrees. Then this is where the drama begins Floyd wants OSDT untill the day of the fight Manny wants 14 day cut off then a test right after the fight. Floyd doesn't move from his stance neither does Pac, the fight gets shelved and Floyd can move on to fight someone who is less of a threat.
Floyd goes on to fight Shane(which I give him full credit for), put some more money in his account and has been on vacation ever since. Nothing wrong with what he did I just want people to see he didn't comeback to save boxing or face the best competition, if it was about any of these he would have a fight coming up. But it never was, it was all about the money$$$.:cool2:
Let the hate begin.
unfortunately I can't refute anything written above. I was so pumped when he came back, I thought it was just a matter of time. Him "announcing" his "comeback" the same day pac fought hatton was just typical mayweather to me, I took it as a shot of the deck of pacquaio, kinda like, yeah I'm back, I'm coming for u, I'ma announce my comeback the same day u fight mother ****er, watch out here I come!!!! To bad everything he's done since then has been a joke. Sadly he probably would have been better off just staying retired, I mean hell, look how far he's fallen since his "comeback". And that "hit list" BWWWWAAAAAA don't even get me started. A "hit list" with one light weight, and one dude 38 years old who hadn't fought in a year and a half. What a joke.
I'm getting sick and tired of all these articles about "this boxer picks pacquiao, or this trainer picks mayweather, or this celebrity picks whoever. This fight needs to just happen already, **** who picks who. The only way to find out for sure is to have the ****ing fight. Someone please talk some sense into pretty boy so we can all get what we want and move the **** on...
Huge win for victor no doubt. I too find it funny how fast the song changes around here. One good win and u go from heartless bum to unstoppable monster. One bad loss and your over rated trash and washed up or my favorite "left overs". It's all pretty amusing.
For the record I think ortiz would get spanked by pac and mayweather. But I would still LOVE to see those fights. Hell I'll take pac ortiz way before pac jmm 3. That's just me.
It would be a ****ING WAR while it lasted that's for sure. Pac would stop victor though fyi. Ortiz goes down way to easy and is always there to be hit. Lets not start going crazy with the predictions, pac isn't berto. Not saying I wouldn't love to see this fight because I would, but if and when it does go down look for victor to finish on his back. Hopefully if (when) floyd ducks out the back again and jmm gets put to sleep we can see this fight. I'd really like to see pac face ortiz, then bradley, and maybe finish up with berto, that is if floyd doesn't step his game up, which at this point looks very likely.
I don't doubt it, u get two beasts going and someone is getting bit. I hope victor continues to keep his mind straight and hopefully if (when) floyd pusses out again we might see a real war. It would be a great fight, but vic is two easy to hit and likes to go down. Put that with pac, a man who likes to put people down, and vic would probably end finishing on his back. One things for sure, he gained alot of peoples respect after this weekend. Nothing but good things to say about the man from over here.
You never know man
with all these upsets some major other not so much
you can count out old SS.
Just like your boy in your avi pulled a huge surprise and almost beat maidana
War MOSLEY!
Anything can happen in a boxing ring that's for sure. All though I got pac winning u can never count out sugar shane. Its gonna be action packed that's for sure. I really don't see this one going the distance.
islamic look, muslims unlike the jews.. grow a beard but dont keep a stash jews do..
the length of ur beard shouldnt be longer than when ur grabbing it with ur fist.. if u understand what i mean
look it up but i hope that helps
Beard or stash, he always speaks the truth. Nazim is a real dude and his honest approach to the issues surrounding boxing is to be admired.
Always respected Naazim and the class and intelligence he shows. I have no problem with Shane getting this fight, I don't think it will be much of a fight but he's a legend and deserves a last payday.
Pac is a rubix cube, he isn't the best boxer, doesn't really impress with his boxing skill but his speed and natural ability are something we might never see in another 50 years.
True dat. Nazim is a class act all the way.
hasnt this dog eating monkey gotten his 15 min of fame already ???
she cant sings
she cant fight
she cant speak the language
but she can sure pop them steroid pills !
she can sure inject them HGH shots !
Reported. I've had enough of all these racist fools jacking up the boards. Keep this trailer trash **** in the sewer where it belongs kid.
A nice mix of both. U can't just baby a fighter the way they do it now, or be ready when they get "berto'd" . But u also don't wanna throw him too many brutal fights in a row. Even if he's winning, it can't be a super bowl type fight every time out. Dudes need a soft touch every now and then, just not every time out.
I say Bradley or Judah
Assuming floyd continues on with his bizzar circus act, I want ortiz then bradley. No interest in judah, jmm is fixing to school him anyway. I don't have anything against judah but dude gets WAY too much hype. Pac would beat him down like a spoiled step child.
Thank god. Maybe now we can get pac ortiz or pac bradley. That jmm fight just did nothing for me. Good news all the way around. If he excepted an offer by gdp that means he got a pretty nice payday. At least this way he can always say he really won one of those two fights or even both. If he would have faced pac now no one would have remembered that, all they would remember is the third fight where he got destroyed by a bigger stronger man in his prime. Ending a trilogy on ur back isn't the way u wanna go out.