Is ****ing crazy in here with this ****. The dude beat an overrated Berto who had faced only 2 guys in his entire career that were solid and those were Collazo and that was a close fight that Collazo could have won and the other one was a past prime weight drained Quintana. Stop this Victitor Ortiz BS he is still the guy that got beat by Maidana and had a draw with Petterson. Solid win but stop overating the guy.
Huge win for victor no doubt. I too find it funny how fast the song changes around here. One good win and u go from heartless bum to unstoppable monster. One bad loss and your over rated trash and washed up or my favorite "left overs". It's all pretty amusing.
For the record I think ortiz would get spanked by pac and mayweather. But I would still LOVE to see those fights. Hell I'll take pac ortiz way before pac jmm 3. That's just me.
Bingo. It is a typical overeaction by BS after someone wins. One win against a solid unproven fighter makes you elite in here.Lol when Cotto beat Paula, Puerto Ricans went crazy. When Lopez beat De Leon Puerto Ricans went crazy.
Maidana didn't beat victor, he beat himself by quitting. And the same thing with Peterson. If he wudve shown the same heart from Saturday, during both those bouts, he wudve rolled past both maidana n Lamont.
And who the fukk are you to dictate what people want to post? Ortiz won big in a very exciting fight, what else do you want us to talk about on a BOXING forum, American Idol?
sorry, youre right, we shouldnt get excited about seeing an outstanding fight amongst two high level boxers at Welterweight, especially when the winner is someone that has made big improvements and could be a big star.
shi t always happens.
I will say one thing. It is possible ortiz was fighting the wrong weight the whole time.
For sure. The guy is a huge JWW. He came in at 161, that's unreal.
victor is now a ww and also a ww champ so why wouldn't he be mentioned as a opponent for floyd or manny?i don't think it has that much to do with victor but more of people wantin to see manny fight a live opponent and floyd fight period and manny pacquiao is not unbeatanble as you can see by his record
This is only Ortiz's first fight at 147.
Being a potential opponent is one thing, but to say he's a threat is something else. Not saying you said that, but a lot of other people are.
It's not just Pac and Floyd. I also see other threads such as Ortiz vs. Cotto and Martinez thread. Come on, Martinez?
Ortiz still needs 2 or 3 wins before I would even consider him for a Pac or Mayweather fight.
If it weren't for his lost to Maidana and draw to Peterson, I wouldn't have too much doubt. One good win over Berto, who is arguably less regarded than him doesn't completely erase the fact that he quit against Maidana and drew against Peterson, who he should have finished.
A win over Berto is a huge step forward, but not even close to what people are making it out to be.
Is ****ing crazy in here with this ****. The dude beat an overrated Berto who had faced only 2 guys in his entire career that were solid and those were Collazo and that was a close fight that Collazo could have won and the other one was a past prime weight drained Quintana. Stop this Victitor Ortiz BS he is still the guy that got beat by Maidana and had a draw with Petterson. Solid win but stop overating the guy.
In case you were unaware, some fighters actually get better as time goes on.
There is doubt, and there is shitting on him.
Fans were shitting on him.
Doubt is when you are unsure about something. I think many fans were more than sure that Berto would make Ortiz quit after landing some hard shots.
People were calling him an overrated hype job with no heart that got ruined by Maidana.
And now he's a threat to Pac and Floyd.
That's the definition of overreaction.
victor is now a ww and also a ww champ so why wouldn't he be mentioned as a opponent for floyd or manny?i don't think it has that much to do with victor but more of people wantin to see manny fight a live opponent and floyd fight period and manny pacquiao is not unbeatanble as you can see by his record
thats why it's such a big win because everyone doubted him and he was moving up in weight to fight one of the champions and pretty much owned him
There is doubt, and there is shitting on him.
Fans were shitting on him.
Doubt is when you are unsure about something. I think many fans were more than sure that Berto would make Ortiz quit after landing some hard shots.
People were calling him an overrated hype job with no heart that got ruined by Maidana.
And now he's a threat to Pac and Floyd.
That's the definition of overreaction.
shi t always happens.
I will say one thing. It is possible ortiz was fighting the wrong weight the whole time.
Yeah, Ortiz isn't a little dude and he looked massive compared to Peterson in his last fight. He's only what, 24? I bet he's fighting at 154 in 2 years or so.
Dont be bitter. Just enjoy the fact that he put on a show. If you didnt like the fight on Saturday, then youre not a boxing fan. Let Victor prove himself one more time, but dont hate on the guy. He did something none of us "internet warriors" could do to Berto. So STFU! :boxing:
I have nothing against Vicious Victor, but I just think it's funny how so many people were shitting on him a few days ago and now fans mentioned him as a potential threat for Pac and Mayweather.
It's ridiculous considering he just beat a fighter in Berto who probably gets even more shit that Ortiz does.
It was a great fight and awesome performance by Ortiz, but people are jumping the gun.
This sums it up perfectly
shi t always happens.
I will say one thing. It is possible ortiz was fighting the wrong weight the whole time.
Doubt he was fighting in the wrong weight the whole time. Probably in his last few fights but not his entire career since he was making weight fine at 140 for most of his career his body was done with 140 and it was time to move on that is for sure.
It makes me laugh, I have to admit. People overreact to everything. No one ever just gives a fighter proper credit for a win, they either completely overrate the fighter or completely underrate the fighter.
I have nothing against Vicious Victor, but I just think it's funny how so many people were shitting on him a few days ago and now fans mentioned him as a potential threat for Pac and Mayweather.
It's ridiculous considering he just beat a fighter in Berto who probably gets even more shit that Ortiz does.
It was a great fight and awesome performance by Ortiz, but people are jumping the gun.
thats why it's such a big win because everyone doubted him and he was moving up in weight to fight one of the champions and pretty much owned him