Ariza says high altitude training is counterproductive?

Big Bear is about 7,000 feet above sea level, and you live there and you train there. Now I believe that's bad for a boxer. It's okay for a triathlete or a marathoner or a cyclist because they don't need power or muscle strength like a boxer does or a sprinter or a football player. They don't need to be as explosive as a boxer," said Conte. "Sleeping at altitude accelerates the heart rate, and burns more calories and can cause a boxer to go into a catabolic state, which is the opposite of an anabolic state -- meaning that you lose muscle mass and strength," said Conte. "What their doing is living high and training high, and Nonito is living low and training high. So when he sleeps, he's sleeping at sea level, which allows him a more deep and restful sleep and be in an anabolic state accelerates healing and muscle tissue repair. ^^^victor conte btw, i recommend ZMA-5 (Zinc Magnesium Aspartate): Victor's sleep drug if you have sleeping problems. Or just eat ****loads or avacodos.

I think Ariza is an excellent conditioning coach but professional boxers have been training in high altitudes for years and all of a sudden it's not good. I think this was just to get into Mosley's head.

Ugh, they were just training in the mountains of Baguio City, Philippines just a few weeks ago, which is 5,000 feet in the air. edit: Posted this too soon. It seems like what he's trying to say is that Mosley should've stopped high altitude training halfway through his camp like what Team Pac did when they returned to Wild Card. Big Bear is also 1800 more feet in elevation.

thats just not true. training at high altitudes is very proven. it essentially has the same effect as epo. it definitely increases ur stamina especially more so at lower altitudes. ive known so many athletes that do it, it would be really against science to say its counter productive

The purpose for high altitude training is to produce more red blood cells. Since red blood cells carry oxygen through your system. More red blood cells equates to more oxygen in your system. The need to increment red blood cells is highly sought of by all kinds of athletes. There are four ways to increase your red cell count. 1 -Oxygen Chamber. 2 - High Altitude Training. 3 - Blood Doping. 4 - Taking EPO (which is a banned substance in Boxing). Alex is just one conditioner, preaching against the use altitude training for boxing. But many credible conditioners would lobby in favor of altitude training, since its one of the few ways to naturally increase red cell count with out cheating. ya like natural epo ... thinking about this more kinda makes me wonder about ariza. maybe in pac's case i can see the argument cause theyre trying to maintain weight not lose any. but hes an exception to the norm when it come to that. for most it seems quite beneficial

The purpose for high altitude training is to produce more red blood cells. Since red blood cells carry oxygen through your system. More red blood cells equates to more oxygen in your system. The need to increment red blood cells is highly sought out by all kinds of athletes. There are four ways to increase your red cell count. 1 - Oxygen Chamber. 2 - High Altitude Training. 3 - Blood Doping (which is not allowed) 4 - Taking EPO (which is a banned substance in Boxing). Alex is just one conditioner, preaching against the use altitude training for boxing. But many credible conditioners would lobby in favor of altitude training, since its one of the few ways to naturally increase red cell count with out cheating.

The only evidence you need is African runners. Kenyan runners are hands down the best due to the training at altitudes of over 2000 meters (6,560 feet). As you go up in altitude, the air becomes less dense......density = mass/volume so that means there is less mass per cubic foot (or meter) at higher altitudes. This means that your lungs and muscles are taking in less oxygen per breath than at lower altitudes. This also means that something within your body must change or adapt to make up for it - the theory is that more red blood cells (the ones responsible for oxygen transport) must be generated by the body to counteract this lack of oxygen so that more O2 can be carried per breath. When back at lower altitudes, where there is more oxygen present in the air, the extra red blood cells enable you to have an advantage because your stamina level was developed at the higher altitudes. Opinions are opinions but Kenyan runners dominate marathons and that is a fact. You are absolutely correct. This subject has been discussed for YEARS, and it is already accepted that Kenyans and Ethiopians are by far, the most likely to win all the endurance runs, in the best times. And for exactly the reasons you have stated. These reasons were arrived at from careful investigation by medical experimenters, and has neen confirmed at every long distance race.

Interesting read but Mosley has been training out of Big Bear for years. If he is going to get tired it wont be because of the altitude change, he just damn old. Marquez is another fighter that has fought in high altitude for ages. He looks like he can go 15 rounds even at his advanced age.

I think things are different when you go up to high altitudes to train for 6 weeks than say 6months. Your body is put under stress by going back and forth and his comments kind of make sense. However, I think people that naturally live in higher altitudes are benefited from their environment when they compete at lower elevations. I agree, training for a few weeks isn't doing anything for you. Living there will force your body to adapt or else you'd struggle doing moderate activity.

The only evidence you need is African runners. Kenyan runners are hands down the best due to the training at altitudes of over 2000 meters (6,560 feet). As you go up in altitude, the air becomes less dense......density = mass/volume so that means there is less mass per cubic foot (or meter) at higher altitudes. This means that your lungs and muscles are taking in less oxygen per breath than at lower altitudes. This also means that something within your body must change or adapt to make up for it - the theory is that more red blood cells (the ones responsible for oxygen transport) must be generated by the body to counteract this lack of oxygen so that more O2 can be carried per breath. When back at lower altitudes, where there is more oxygen present in the air, the extra red blood cells enable you to have an advantage because your stamina level was developed at the higher altitudes. Opinions are opinions but Kenyan runners dominate marathons and that is a fact.

dont need high altitude training on his power pellets.

Why does Ariza always come off as such a dick in everyting he does? Like seriously, every interview I've ever seen he just plain sucks. This dude is a sorry ass protein shake maker. I wish he would jsut disappear forever.

Wow, great read.

im sure victor conte and all those others fighters that use that “AltoLab Altitude Simulator” or similar devices would disagree ... just cause ssm gases doesnt dispel that altitude training seems to work very well with many fighters. and other athletes for that matter

I think things are different when you go up to high altitudes to train for 6 weeks than say 6months. Your body is put under stress by going back and forth and his comments kind of make sense. However, I think people that naturally live in higher altitudes are benefited from their environment when they compete at lower elevations.

This makes sense... Train in the mountains if you LIVE in the mountains. If you live at sea level, train at sea level. Living at sea level and then training in the mountains and then fighting at sea level makes no sense to your body. The reason Marquez can make it work is because he already lives at a moderately high altitude in Mexico.

Klitschko Bros trains at the highest, blackest mountain in northern africa

http://www.mpboxing.com/blog/2011/04/23/arizas-corner-of-the-ring-15/comment-page-1/#comment-3954 Opinions? I posted: Wow, good read. However, I think Juan Manuel Marquez always trains at over 16,000ft. elevation (above 5000 meters and he never seems to gas out, he does better in the later rounds. What is your opinion on this? Thanks. I wonder if Alex will respond. training at high altitude is like getting high from weed without smoking it.