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mayweather is one of the cleanest fighters in boxing. i have watched all his pro fights and he has never once used his elbow. what you are referring to is him using his forearm, which is obviously very different. haters always say elbow to make it out to be worse than it really is. but even when he does use his FOREARM its not an aggressive move, he does it to keep guys from headbutting him which no reasonable person would have a problem with. edit: and mayweather won the fight handily, it wasnt close at all. the first half was close, but then floyd took over and clearly separated himself from maidana down the stretch. Bruh?... I enjoy your insight on fights, and the opinions you provide (knowing you are a boxer yourself. I think that you are the same guy), but this post is just tragic to say the least. Lol, keep in mind, I have no dog in this fight, but for fans to act as if Floyd has not used his elbows/forearms is a bit delusional at best...

But Mayweather uses his elbows and forearms as a defensive technique and not as an offensive one. Theres's a difference. He gets away with it most of the time because it's the opponent that moves forward into his forearm. I am sure this is not the last post I will see like this in this topic. I do find it interesting though, that you don't seem to understand that elbows (in any form) are illegal in the sport of boxing. It is true that Floyd gets away with it more than any fighter, but that still doesn't make it any less illegal. Being a fan of a fighter should not make you turn such a blind eye, or try and explain away that fighters "dirty tactics"...

Creepy ass post, man. Yes it is. In truth though, Larry really doesn't care. He is here for the replies, nothing more. Larry knows full well there will be many Floyd fans/manny haters/top rank haters (or whatever they go by nowadays) in here to give an opinion.

I wouldn't mind a GGG/Lara fight... After all, I felt Lara beat Canelo. Lara, Danny Jacobs, any A level fighter at this point. I would still also like Canelo to step to the plate.

The guy is working his way up.... Good topic Larry. People need to give Jacobs more shine. I have said before, and still feel he is the dark horse in all this middle weight talk. Dude is good. I think he can beat GGG, and any other top middle weight. He may also be able to go up in weight and get some good wins.

i watched him a lot, being a USC fan...tools are there but im not 100% sold You're breaking my heart here Mak! Where the hell is uncle Tua!? I need his input!!

There is a strong correlation between "fans" that call fighters boring and a lack of boxing experience. I've noticed that the fans which call fighters boring tend to have never laced a pair before don't know what it feels like commiting to a punch and getting countered and as a result expect every fighter to brawl. Boxing is a tactical game and an art and you should fight to your advantages i.e Malignaggi and Algieri should not start slugging. And all boxing needs to embrace what boxing is (hit and dont get hit) and should stop calling it boring or watch another sport. This has been adressed 100 times now.. You don't need to have " laced them up" to know what you are watching. Listen, fans like what they like. Who are you to tell them they don't, or can't think a fighter is boring? It is their right as a fan. Simple **** really. I really hope this thread was not in defense of any specific fighter... I am sure it was though. PS: I have "laced them up", and respect evey aspect of the sport. You do know that purist of "boxing" tend to not like, or respect brawlers... You have noticed that, right? Same thing bruh.

he wants JJ Watt money...not sure about all that We do have to spend though. I am hope Leonard Williams is there at the 4th pick.

you're not allowed to talk about Obama because you've never been president Are we getting Suh or what!? That is the real question here!!:hijacked:

really??this is ok here? Was there really a need for a second topic on this?...

Also, wanting to kill or fight people over a fighter you love, is a tad bit over the line also, Larry.

Come on, everyone knows Mayweather increased security once Rhonda said she wanted to fight him. .........lmao!

I don't know if this will qualify for this topic, but Joe Lipsey... I remember watching him just flat out wreck fighters to a 25-0 record with something like 20 KO's. Then they put him in the ring with Hopkins... Still one of the most vicious KO's that comes to memory. If I recall correctly, most felt it was to soon to fight Hopkins (I believe he was a champ at the time. Hopkins that is), Lipsey paid for it. Never fought again, if I'm not mistaken.

South paw with very good boxing and fundamentals with a chin, and able to apply smart pressure when need be, and a very good outside game. That's Hagler. No way on the Viper. Viper was super super explosive. You think of him as the Viper because he fought a short guy. Wait til he fights a guy his own size. Huh? I have followed Crawford for several fights now... Not jut the Gamboa fight. No one compared him to Hagler until Roy did. You're statement about Forrest doesn't even makes sense... That is fine though. He reminds me of Forrest. Also I am not going to get into him fighting lefty, I addressed all that.

I don't look at TC like Floyd. I liken him more to Hagler. Not everyone has to be compared to Floyd, bud. That bum would knock your ass out within the first 2-3 seconds. You wouldn't even see what hit you. In regards to the Hagler comment. I heard Roy say post fight the similarities to Hagler based on the switch hitting and such. I don't agree at all. For the several fights I have followed Crawford now (switch hitting aside, though it is important to state when speaking of his ability), I see only one fighter in Crawford.. The Viper (rip). It brings a smile to my face every time he wins.

This aint the amateurs. Body punching scores. Please keep in mind, I have no dog in this fight... Now, your statement suggest that Canelo was also landing headshots, he wasn't. Lara clearly out landed him to the head. I give Canelo credit for his body shots. IMHO, Canelo lost. Lara fought his fight. He should have won.

Your fighter didn't win so of course you say he got robbed being the poor sport that you are. So far over 50% of the voters think Lara did not get robbed. It was a close fight between two great fighters so don't spoil it with your cry babying because Canelo will have a win over Lara for now and forever. So you had Canelo winning by how much exactly? I feel 115-113 was the exact score for Lara. What do you feel the score should have been? Also the clean effective punches is what I scored. May it have been head or body, whatever the case. Lara scored the more effective shots. Most of the body shots were blocked. Now the lead left hooks to the body and the ending lefts to the body were scoring for Canelo. I gave him those. Lastly yes, Lara fought his fight. Had Canelo chasing and running into lefts and check right hooks damn near all night. Anyway, Lara has no one to blame but himself for the decision. If or one scored it for him though. Edit: I meant to quote post # 34.

Of course he was... What did he expect? I said to my brother before the fight, if it goes 12, Lara will lose. Plain and simple. We know who they are marketing. Lara should have as well.. Period.

.. and those are the three, the magnitude got to him. that's mentality, not physical inability. that ghanaian is nothing if not a fucking motor. We will just agree to disagree. Mental tuffness issues? Sure. Ring IQ? Played no part in any of those 3 fights.

his inability to simply throw punches when it would have won him fights. sheer inactivity. neglecting to do the one thing that boxers do, punch. So basically the Pac fight... Gotcha! Good to see fans still judge his entire career off that fight. If inactivity( as in fighting once a year )was smarts, the you would be correct. If the inability to fight through injuries was smarts, then yes, you would be correct. Clottey was no stupid fighter by any means. The only three fights he can even be questioned for Inactivity was, Margo, Cotto, and Pac. He busted up his hand against Margo. He was body slammed, and messed up his knee in the process against Cotto. Both fights he had in hand, at the moment of injury. The Pac fight, I agree. Inactivity cost him a competitive fight, huge outrage from fans, and maybe a W. That doesn't make him an overall dumb fighter though.

.. and those are the three, the magnitude got to him. that's mentality, not physical inability. that ghanaian is nothing if not a fucking motor. Also, he set traps for Margo and Cotto all night... Even after the injuries. He also countered both very well. That is ring IQ, right? Those were also very competitive fights aswell. Clottey had one bad outting IMHO. That was against Pac. If that constitutes dummy, than so be it.

It happened. Watch "On Freddie Roach". This was also prior to Pac/Marquez III, the fight which Marquez requested testing and Manny turned it down. Knew that is what this was all about... The hunt for some, will never be over I see.

Both are good, the only problem is lack of opposition. Having defeated Bhop and Pascal, now Kov needs more challenges going forward. Once the Ward fight is over, who does HBO have, unless he moves up. TC has talent but should be fighting guys better than Lundy at this point. Agreed on all points.

Agreed. I see no reason for HBO to drop boxing given they get decent ratings with this formula. This was the point I made that he responded to. As a boxing fan, I just hope they make much better matchups, same expectation I have for PBC/Haymon. IMHO they better put a huge push behind the Krusher, and TC. That will set the stage for productive years for HBO. I use to have questions about Krusher, but dude can bang, period. TC is the goods imo.

There is no correlation between facts and what a posters avi is. SO far this year HBO's signed fighters fought/are scheduled to fight Pascal rematch, dominic wade,Tim Bradley 3rd fight, hank lundy and amir khan at 155. I see your point about the match ups Dunn, but as long as HBO can keep guys under contract, HBO boxing is going nowhere.

I have literally seen no one pray for his downfall lmfao alot of people give him props etc for his skills only nack people say are he hasnt stepped up yet so they cant really tell how he will fair etc which is true lmfao. People say he hasnt stepped up = hater = your insecurities lmfao. lotta of fools are lames boxing got you dudes way too emotional. I agree with everything you said, but I agree with the last sentence 1000%!!!!

I can't see B-Hop or Mayweather wanting anything to do with a BKB ring. They need rings the size of Texas to run in. I remember reading/hearing about when Hopkins started boxing in prison, there was no ring, just a mat. A regular sized roll out mat. They would fight until a KO, or until someone stepped off the mat.... Point is, Prime Hopkins would be at home in a BKB format. I have a feeling Floyd would be to.. Do to the fact he fights very well in the pocket. He doesn't just need a huge ring to win fights.

FYI, just read the guy that posted under Marbleheadmaui died this past December. I posted there for awhile. I was GoFowardandFight. Marblehead was a good poster. Wow, sad to here.

All I know is that this kid will be sitting in his dimly lit basement upset because his credit card bounced trying to purchase the PPV that he could have been to for free. Get the black and gray ink out because I have a feeling your next painting will be a depressing one. This Dan guy really hurt your feelings...

Herrera would have gt his ass beat by salka. he really need ti shut the fuk up. Herrera will die in the rematch. Herrera would have got his ass beat by Salka!?... That is a comment from the heart, not the head. It is cool you support Garcia and all, but don't be silly.