Supposedly the odds for Ali to beat Foreman were only 3/1, so I'm not sure it was as big an upset as people like to think.
He was 7/1 to beat Liston in the 1st fight by all accounts. So that was the much bigger upset just going off odds.
Khan was undefeated up until that fight. He had a fairly large casual following in the UK but anyone with just a tiny insight into boxing knew that he'd only been fighting bums and that as soon as someone fought back he'd be exposed. The thing that got to me about Amir was how ****y and arrogant he was without any real backing - there'd been plenty of signs that his chin was shakey and to see the public being cheated for PPV after PPV was just sickening.
Anyway I didn't know much about Prescott on the night so just assumed it was another bum, but being a fan of the sweet science I picked up a free stream online anyway. Let's just say Amir wasn't the only one picking his jaw up off the floor ten seconds into that fight! The one-two for the first knockdown is like watching justice for robbing so many casual boxing fans.
The Prescott fight was Khan's first on PPV as far as I can remember.
So yeah, nonsense.
Haye-Klitschko. Made a bit of money from some delusional English betting men.
One of the biggest myths in boxing is that Barrera dominated Naseem Hamed. It wasn't a shutout at all, the first half of the fight was even. I, and I think a couple of the judges had it 115-112 Barrera. Naz didn't even train properly for the fight either.
Dirrell didn't take the fight when Bute had a title..... Why would he take the fight now???
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believe me my man, he deserves it. and yea he is the quintessential definition of a flomo thing that you keep hearing about...
:lol1: at you completely missing the point he was making.
He was criticizing Floyd from what I can see.
Everything I've seen of Tyson suggests that Wlad would simply pick him apart with his jab.
Ali, Foreman and Lennox are the only 3 I'd give the huge advantage to.
Do you remember Jim Lampley having a belly laugh at you guys and your betting on Ricky Hatton over Pacquaio? It is no secret that the English overrate most of their athletes. What's worse is how highly English fans rate their soccer program(year in and year out the English program is one of the biggest disappointments). I think you'd have to be blind to believe that majority of English fans are deluded when they rank their athletics in comparison to the rest of the world.
You may say the same thing about Americans but time in and time out they excel at the world level. Olympics and majority of world level sports they do extremely well. You can make excuses about size or quantity but when we just look at performance America has done well, and although America is very patriotic, they do show up much more than the English in world events.
A) That is the media hyping a fight up to people who don't know a lot about boxing. The word is gullible, not delusional. When you have a whole country where sports betting is perfectly legal, stupid people will make stupid bets occasionally. I bet Lampley didn't mention all the Brits that bet on pacquiao either.
B) Go on twitter and find me a single English person that rates our football team as anything better than sh*t and I'll say well done to you.
English/British sports fans are both passionate and knowledgeable, there's no delusion to it.
There are many fighters with 70+ fight careers who've fought over the last 30 years.
Lomachenko needs to clear out divisions, fighting 4x a year. If/when he clears out the featherweight and lightweight divisions then we can start bringing up ATG and SRR. Until then ... it's just a little bit early to talk about that. No matter his potential he's only had 1 professional fight.
This day and age, meaning right now.
Who's gonna get through a 70 fight career nowadays, without going on waaaaay past their sell by(therefore making it impossible to put together a 70 fight win streak in a short space of time like SRR was able to)?
When he wins 60 or 70 consecutive fights, then he can start to be in a conversation like that.
Seeing as though a 70 fight career just won't happen in this day and age, essentially what you're saying here is that in the modern era it is impossible for anyone to ever surpass SRR no matter what they achieve?
If Lomachencko fights 4 times a year for 10 years, he has 40 fights.
Unlikely many he has not padded his record, most fighters are fighting gimmes till they hit 20 fights, or more as in case of Wilder.
SRR had his fair share of padding to.
It will be the quality that is important to overthrow SRR.
Not good enough, you have to win at least 70 fights in a row before even getting a mention apparently....
7 defenses a year sounds reasonable.
Was Prince Naz really a one punch knockout artist? He certainly possessed game changing power but he never really struck me personally as a fighter who put guys away with single shots, it was more through accumulation.
I think Manny Steward said on a couple of occasions that Naz was the hardest puncher he'd worked with.