You need to seriously relax JMM is an accused PED fraud and Provodnikov is a nobody although I do enjoy watching him fight. Bradley never beat pacquiao.
I don't see how it's possible for froch to be anything less than at number 5 unless were filling a list with unproven fighters based on 'potential' like GGG.
I agree with everything except the highlighted..Bradley did beat Pac..
Froch ahead of JMM and Bradley?
Froch doesn't have a win better than Pacquiao or even Ruslan Provodnikov
You need to seriously relax JMM is an accused PED fraud and Provodnikov is a nobody although I do enjoy watching him fight. Bradley never beat pacquiao.
I don't see how it's possible for froch to be anything less than at number 5 unless were filling a list with unproven fighters based on 'potential' like GGG.
No, the opposite. He's a bum. He should be a P4P because he's white. GFOH. He doesn't belong in a top 20, skillwise.
Go and enjoy your hate for black fighters.
Dude you have to be joking with this..For a guy with no skill he sure has made it a long way..So he deserves even more to be on this list..
Froch ahead of JMM and Bradley?
Froch doesn't have a win better than Pacquiao or even Ruslan Provodnikov
I can't agree,Froch has earned his way to being in one of the 4-10 guy's on the list..Bradley took a loss to Pac this yr bro,so if someone put's Froch ahead of him right now it's understandable..Same goes for Marquez and even Pac,Froch has been on a tear for these pass few yrs..He deserves some credit..
Of course he is but like all white fighters he has to do more to get the respect of da slick brothas.
No, the opposite. He's a bum. He should be a P4P because he's white. GFOH. He doesn't belong in a top 20, skillwise.
Go and enjoy your hate for black fighters.
I have Froch in top 5 too atm. May, Pac, Ward, Wlad.
Froch ahead of JMM and Bradley?
Froch doesn't have a win better than Pacquiao or even Ruslan Provodnikov
Everything would make sense for Foch vs Ward II to happen, if not for the promotional issues. But where is Ward in all of this? What does he want with his career?
There really is nothing holding this fight back other then Ward not wanting to fight over seas,and Froch not wanting to fight him in the states..
IMO I think Froch should fight Chavez,Ward should fight 3G,and Groves should fight Degale..All on HBO..Then start to mix and match with the winners and losers..Something like a Super Six with out the official stamp of the SS..
That indicates that you, like me, is an unbiased and honest boxing fan. It doesn't make sense to have Froch outside of the top 5.
Agreed.......................
He obviously belongs in not just the top 10, but the top 5. Mayweather, Pacquiao and Ward are definetely above him, but who more should be? Wladimir? Actually, it's very hard to judge who should be ranked higher between Wladimir and Froch, either one is fine with me, but there is just not 5 boxers today who deserves to be ranked higher.
Some rank Rigo higher. He's an excellent boxer, but really, he needs to prove some more. Just beating Donaire does NOT equal beating both Kessler, Pascal, Abraham, Bute, etc. I like Rigo, but it's just not fair to rank him above Froch yet.
Some also ranks Alvarez above Froch... That is just stupid. Alvarez is entertaining to watch, but he lost to Trout, he lost to Mayweather and I feel fairly confident that Lara will beat him too in a few days...
Some rank Golovkin or other above Froch too, but if you think about it, Froch really DOES belong in the top 5, he is just not appreciated enough.
I have Froch in top 5 too atm. May, Pac, Ward, Wlad.
Everything would make sense for Foch vs Ward II to happen, if not for the promotional issues. But where is Ward in all of this? What does he want with his career?
For sure, he's an exciting fighter with personality and has only been beaten by two really good fighters one of which he's already avenged his loss to.
Hell no!!!In a popularity p4p list yes but in a realistic list no.There are manny real champions who deserve more to be in the top 10 by their skill!!!!
List your top 10.
Hell no!!!In a popularity p4p list yes but in a realistic list no.There are manny real champions who deserve more to be in the top 10 by their skill!!!!
Froch may not be an elite boxer but he is an elite fighter.
Elements of his game such as his chin and his will / determination don't qualify with many as elite boxing skills, but they sure as **** make him a tough fighter to beat. He has beaten many boxers more 'skilled' than himself.
This is why he is often under-credited by proponents of the 'sweet science' who by nature don't value traits such as chin and heart as much as they sometimes should.
It's absurd that some are willing to argue that Froch isn't a top pound for pounder due to lack of skill, considering the resume of the Cobra, when they in the same breath will claim that Wladimir isn't ATG due to his 'poor' resume, while Weltz will be arguing that Wladimir's skill set alone puts him on the HW ATG list.
Froch may not be an elite boxer but he is an elite fighter.
Elements of his game such as his chin and his will / determination don't qualify with many as elite boxing skills, but they sure as **** make him a tough fighter to beat. He has beaten many boxers more 'skilled' than himself.
This is why he is often under-credited by proponents of the 'sweet science' who by nature don't value traits such as chin and heart as much as they sometimes should.
Definitely top 10 p4p. Not necesarrily too low, but he's on it, he earned it the hard way. He beats everyone in SMW except Ward & perhaps Kessler can win too.
People who don't have him on their P4P, what can the man do then?! 3rd best resume in boxing right now.