The same UKAD that took over a year to investigate Tyson Fury's positive test? Sounds like an impartial organization.
I would say that if you know your not going to be tested untill 8 weeks from the fight , it would give you much more of an advantage if you are a drug user than if you are taking part in year round mandatory testing...
https://ukad.org.uk/news/article/UKAD-and-Mr-Tyson-Fury-and-Mr-Hughie-Fury-issue-joint-statement
I would much rather people are caught and punished despite the delay than people not get tested at all untill 8 weeks out.
He's not in VADA's CBP per BoxRec. Neither is another limey named Anthony from the UK...
Ukad tests all year round, Vada tests 8 weeks from fight night.
The UK trolls are obsessed with DAZN because Hearn tells them to be.
The anti-PBC posters were inundated by anti-PBC propaganda when PBC launched. PBC went after mainstream coverage and didn't kiss the ass of boxing reporters like boxing reporters were accustomed to. So boxing reporters, to punish PBC, slammed them day in and day out with whatever nonsense Arum and DLH were feeing them.
You guys have to understand how hard it is to make a living as a boxing reporter. So boxing reporters have always been the most susceptible to manipulation. I was around in the Don King days when every press conference had an immaculate spread. Expensive wine, you name it. King covering hotel rooms, strip clubs, whatever you wanted. Boxing reporters got used to these kind of perks being a standard part of the job.
Then PBC comes around and not only didn't suck up to the boxing reporters, they flat out ignored them. So boxing reporters were out for blood. PBC broke the unspoken rule that boxing reporters are to be wined and dined and treated like gold at all times to make up for the ****ty pay.
You talk **** about Dazn and Hearn in your first 15 words then spend 2 paragraphs with you tongue up Al Haymons backside.
Why do you choose sides?.
Not sure how your brain computes words, but I spent two paragraphs criticizing PBC for mistreating reporters and you somehow interpret that as my tongue being up Haymon's ass. Interesting.
Im not sure how your brain disseminates information but your post did not come across as anti PBC, it actually reads like you were championing the plucky PBC for having the zeal to fight the suffocating clutches of nasty boxing journalism.
IF i genuinely had the wrong end of the stick i owe you an apology.
Case in point...
I presume your being ironic, what with you posting about AJ fans being females and also being vindictive, whilst you mention two posters who havnt even posted on this thread as being crazed ladies...your emotional my friend...it's ok , Eddie isn't going to eat your babies, this is boxing not an iron maiden gig.
AJ doesn't have skills though. hes superbly technicial. He doesn't have a slippery defense, good foot work, angles. He's literally a text book boxer as far as punching goes. What skills do you see he possess? And no disrespect. I would love to just chat with no
Insults. If ignorant to the topic, a bigger mans job would be to tech me.
What is your definition of skill?. If your superb technically that makes you skilled does it not?. I'm not trying to be argumentative mate far from it.
Personally I think skill set is subjective. If you say that defensively Joshua isn't very skilled I would agree. His head movement is average although improving slightly, i would say he is a little flat footed but I would add caveats and say that he looks to be on his toes a little more recently(parker/povetkin)...I'm no trainer or coach though so it's very much what i see as a boxing loving individual rather than speaking from genuine knowledge gained from experience.
Personally I don't like to use the word limited when talking about a fighter that is still young and has a much of his career ahead...especially a multiple belt holder.
I would stick around and chat a little but I've a few things to do , take it easy my friend.
When your talking about Wilder being technically horrible and lacking skill...your being factual. When your talking about AJ being limited and mediocre your not being factual. I imagine you recieve animosity because your opinion isn't respected by Joshua fans. Wilder fans won't give you grief because most of them arnt actually Wilder fans...they hate Eddie Hearn(mainly due to patriotism with racial undertones) and are fraught with insecurity because the horse that they have backed is a one trick pony.
Sterotyping, xenophobia and ignorance from both sides...like there isnt enough of that crap in the world already...i hope some people are rightfully embarrassed by thier posting in this ****-show. Grow up.
So...there was no contract, just a terms sheet and 50m funded by BT sport sent via e-mail by Deontay himself?....sounds like they wernt serious, almost as if team Wilder were negotiating with somebody else, like they didn't want to look like they were ducking Joshua and getting Deontay to participate unknowingly in the deception. All along Wilder thinks his team are doing thier best to make the fight and that Hearn is jerking them about. It's makavelian...it protects thier fighter from facing Joshua, it allows them to take the Fury fight without looking like they sought out the easy work, and it drives a wedge between Wilder and Hearn what with Hearn openly courting Wilder and flashing his DAZN coloured panties at him...
Right now the top 4 HWs in the world are:
AJ
Wilder
Fury
Ortiz
Why is it the people say Wilder ducks when he has of fought 2 of the 3 guys.
AJ on the other hand has fought 0.
It’s obvious issue is with team AJ as Wilder has fought the top guys, while AJ has not.
They have all turned down the opportunity to fight AJ for more money than they have ever recieved previously at the time of said offers.
Ortiz is actually ranked 7th by boxrec...funnily enough AJ victims Povetkin and Whyte are ranked higher than Ortiz...even Jarell the human steroid is ranked above him. Hell, Fury and Wlder arnt even fighting guys in the top ten next...thats boxrec though...
things I'd personally rather watch AJ fight than Ruiz:
a rack of clothes at a department store
those jetpack things that let people hover like 10 feet above the water
one of those inflatable arm waving guys they put up outside of used car dealerships
a liberty tax person in their statue of liberty outfit
charlie zelenoff
a big sack full of cats
the audience of a Jeremy Kyle taping
Thay are all signed to Showtime...apart from inflatable arm waving guy, he's just signed with ESPN.
Joseph Parker is probably really happy to be with Top Rank now.
Most perceptive. Amongst all the Turds on boxing scene this is a little shiney gold nugget.
Warren has been a known snake for decades but while he was making Wilder look good that's all they cared about
He sold fury out to fight Wilder too early (furys miraculous performance doesn't change the intent) and now he's flogged him to ESPN.
Indeed, if you jump into bed with a hooker don't complain if you catch crabs.
They want the fight on PPV to maximize revenue. They believe DAZN will be significantly weaker next year, increasing their leverage to insist on PPV.
The side ducking is the side insisting the fighters make less. That side is Hearn's side. He wants DAZN, even though the fighters will make less, because he needs to keep DAZN happy so they don't cancel their contract with him.
No, the fighter ducking is the fighter pricing himself out...im sure Joshua would fight on showtime(if they match the DAZN offer) with a 70-30(or similar) split in his favour, would Wilder?.
Joshua is the money here lets not forget that, no amount of internet "gamesmanship" can hide that.
AJ looks very WEAK in all of this because he been QUIET until now :nonono: Now you want to come out and speak after being quiet and letting Eddie speak for him. He is also the one being disrespects by Wilder, Fury, Ortiz as well as Legends like Lennox Lewis, Ray Leonard questioning him. Forget the Trolling Idiots Fans, you at least one the respect of your Colleagues/Fellow Fighters/Legends Before You probably even more so than the fans
So I like all of these Heavyweights and I want to see them all fight each other but I do think AJ and Eddie dropped the ball in the handling of all this. Eddie MOUTH and constantly disrespecting Wilder and speaking Ill of this fight going in trying to sabotage it might have backfired here. He wanted to try and hold the Heavyweight Division Hostage but just like that momentum has shifted. Once again prove he doesn't know the US Market and all and not only that as he tries to establish his Promotion here, he underestimates its value. In the US when the Casual Sports Fan buys in the $$$ Roles in and no you don't need to fight in front of 80K to make a lot of money here in the US. A Modest 15K here in the US can break Gate Records if it is a good fight
Wilder and Fury Stock went up which is the last thing Hearn needed!
Why would he care what jealous people say?...Wilder , Fury, Ortiz want what he has...it's simple really. Lennox Lewis ,well he's just said that Wilder was exposed and Fury was robbed like he was in the US so his tune may have changed or maybe what he says has no impact on anything.
What on earth makes you think that Wilders stock has risen?, he was made to look a fool by a half fit , half fat Fury and has done nothing but make embarrassing excuses in the days since. He was poor in the press conferences, poor in the ring, and poor after the fight...and don't give me the hardest puncher B.S. ,Steve Cunningham, Neven Pajkic remember those guys? both had Fury down...it's not like he's Oliver McCall.
I'm not sure Hearn tried to sabotage anything, how does one do that by just having an opinion?...do you think people thought, ah well, I'm not going to get the Wilder Fury fight tonight because Eddie Hearn said its not happening two months ago...pfft Jesus guys...let the promoters talk the B.S..
Mate how is offering more than what Wilders just earned for the Fury fight holding the division hostage?, can you not see your being used...same with all the pro PBC YouTube channels, they are all being used and even worse they are using skin colour and nationalism to do it...the only colour that matters is grey guys...that grey between the ears...you Americans should be uniting against these guys that want to charge you near a hundred dollers to watch a fight.
Good post.
Yeah, I've noted that his looping punches often connect with the unpadded wrist area of the glove. RE the first KD, does anyone have a gif showing he was hit on the back of the head?
RE your B3, I will look for that. Are you sure that one is illegal? Do you mean throwing out an open glove? That I know is illegal. But trying to pull the hands away too? I recall Frazier doing that to Ali, I think in 1st and 3rd fights.
Just looking through the rules, and I'm not sure about 3 actually...I would class it as holding and hitting personally.
I've rewatched the fight and he defo hit him on the back of the head...first shot behind the ear and the second...the knockdown blow was back of the head. Now I'm being a picky so and so because it happens in virtually every fight I've ever seen
aj is such a puss
you turn down that money...then wilder says hell fight i in the uk in 2018...and u send a contract with no date and say its for april 2019 when wilder says in 2018...lol...and wilder is the fool?
u wouldnt even fight him at home this year you POS
shut up and mind your business...go make your rematch with whyte and your other garbage fights where you play it safe against the likes of joe parker lol
fury and wilder are doing grown folk stuff
The 50 mill stuff has been done to death. Nothing anyone can tell you will change your mind, your so invested in that narrative, that hatred...that in 20 years time when AJ and Wilder are going grey and enjoying the money and family life. you will be sat by yourself or with mail order bride searching the internet for Eddie Hearn jnr videos...
The last paragraph you wrote was funny though...you...a internet hater, telling the universally recognised number one in the heavyweight division, a multiple belt holder...a guy who makes more in 36 minutes than you will in your entire life to shut up and mind his own business...do you have any self awareness?, obviously not or you wouldn't be talking about AJ playing it safe whilst you devour the shaft of a guy that just got embarrased by a guy that was a 400 pound coke head and alcoholic just one year previous.
whenever you play the "he makes more in 36 minutes than you will in your life" card u know u are emotionally unstable.
Dude, you spend time hating on some guy you've never met...on the internet no less, emotionally unstable 101
this is a boxing forum where people discuss the sport...AJ makes more than all of us combined lolol...i know this....but this is what the forum exists for so we can discuss this sport
Although I've just signed up to this forum, ive read these messege boards for a long time and very rarely do I see you post anything other than hate...not much about boxing...just hate...You don't want to discuss Joshua, you want to talk **** about him. If you want to do that then fair enough but don't get emotional when someone calls you out on your temperamental, irrational hatred.
whenever you have to resort to what you just did...u know u are sad and emotional......this forum exists so we as fans can discuss the actions of these men...lol....you are sad...and obviously upset over what a coward AJ is
Calling someone a coward from behind the anonymity of your tech screen...like I said, total lack of self awareness.
and everyone has said it...from lennox...to froch...to parker...to khan...and many others
Floyd Mayweather said Tyson Fury beat Wilder so bad he had to leave the arena in disgust when he heard the score cards...do you agree?, was Deontay Wilder so bad that he could score 2 knockdowns and still get owned?, Your new Deity Lennox agrees with Floyd, he said Wilder was exposed and Fury was robbed, much like he was himself against Holyfield...do you agree that Wilder was exposed and the scoring crooked?...or do you only agree when it suits you?...Riddick Bowe said Joshua would beat Wilder and Joshua on the same night, Mike Tyson said that Wilder has faught nobody...some tubby guy his exact wording...you can see where im going right?, you can see that opinions are like arseholes yeah?...everyone has one and they are primarily used for excreting **** and hot air.
wilder already agreed to fight whyte earlier in the year if they promised AJ next....and they wouldnt do that either
Dillian Whyte has texts from Wilder saying even if Whyte is mandatory he will make him wait two years.
this is a boxing forum...where we discuss fighters and their careers....save your psych babble for someone who gives a **** you puss
Discuss fighters and thier careers then, don't just post what some youtube channel tells you because it rubs your G-spot just right. Use your own grey matter to cut through the B.S. and work out why and how...do some real research rather than taking some video as gospal.
Everybody has agendas Joshua and Hearn included I'm not blind to it...but I've been in business long enough to know that money rules, and I'm talking real money..not 50m hidden behind a Warren(pun intended) of Bull**** and bravado.
You call a fighting man a coward then go on to call me a puss from behind screen...like I said total lack of self aweness.
Let’s be honest. Fury was not rusty. He looked better than ever.
No he didn't, I've seen fury fight live many times...he lacked his normal lateral movement after 4 rounds,in fact the 2nd half of the fight Fury stood in front of wilder and beat him with nothing but feints. That was Fury at 80%.
The "Everybody Is Just Jealous" comeback is WEAK...VERY WEAK!
Bro, at the of the day Fury ,Wilder and Ortiz want the money and the prestige....when you want something that someone else has its called ....jealously.
Perhaps you think that they are only talking **** because they really care about the fans and the honour of boxing?, if so I have a Nigerian princess for you to help...you only have to provide your bank details and she will put $500,000 into you account and you can have half....
If we're talking about rules that were broken there was a fair few...but seeing as I don't have any love for Wilders people I'm going to point out these.
1. You cannot hit with open glove, inside of glove, wrist or side of your hand.
2. You cannot punch the back of head or neck.
3. You cannot hold and punch your opponant at the same time.
1.Most of Wilders punches are either with the inside of his glove or the wrist...especially when he's windmilling, but that never seems to be an issue.
2.Well the first knockdown was back of the head...it's clear as day, so it should have been called no knockdown.
3.I don't know if others have noticed but wilder will throw a jab but instead of it being a punch he turns it into a grab to pull the opponents guard down and throw in the right. He done it against Szpilika , Ortiz and now Fury...it's illegal but who cares about actually boxing right?.
:rfl:
and he broke his back...
Yeah I was going to mention the Tyson interview where he's talking about breaking his back...first thing I thought of.
It's getting a bit silly all the excuses and damage limitation...Deontay, you laid your balls on the table, nobody thought you were Ray Robinson...take the result and make lemonade, not bitter lemon.
Deontay is truly the miracle man...breaking his hand 12 weeks out, 8 weeks later he's sent the three guys that do pad work with him to an Alabama hospital...not to mention a poor fella inside a mascot costume, and all with a jab.
Nah he's not an embarrassment, he doesn't warrant the hype though..he's devastating against lower level opposition, but we've seen with the Fury fight, Ortiz fight...and the 1st Stiverne fight (arguably his three toughest fights) he's not as good as his team and his fanboys say he is.
Yep he got booed, in the same venue that he's going to rematch Fury in....weak mind Wilder is already mentally beaten, the fake smile belied those crying eyes underneath such vulgar sunglasses..