He has had a top career, it could have been better if he'd have taken some fights he didnt but the fights we talk of him missing ie. Benn, Eubank, Collins, Michalczewski ect, are in truth formalities for a prime Roy who was just on another level.
If u dont rate Roy u dont know diick and ur opinion means less than shiit.
He would most likely win but these are still fights that he should have been fighting and that would mean a whole lot more than some of the people of the people he was fighting around that time.You could make the same sort of argument for Mayweather and his reasons for missing out on all the fighters that he has for the last couple of years.
According to frank Warren,Calzaghe had pulled out of a the fight twice already and had tried to pull out for a third time just two weeks before the fight.
i could beat jeff lacey, lets not get carried away.
I don't understand all this animosity towards Lacy.He obviously wasn't as good as he was hyped up to be,but he was still good.
There's no question Floyd has fast hands. I wish for the old Floyd with those blistering combos instead of the quick one or two shot, potshotting.
It was a thing of beauty when he'd sit in the pocket and fire off six before moving away.
He's still got it it seems, he just doesn't do it very much anymore.
People always use Mayweather's fight against Gatti to highlight how fast and how impressive his combinations are,but my favourite Mayweather fight is the one he had against Phillip Ndou.Even those who don't find Mayweather to be a particularly exciting fighter to watch couldn't possibly not enjoy that.
I don't know. Hopkins beat Johnson and Tarver more decisively. But he's obviously really really old and I don't know how he'll be able to be that active vs. Chad's style. Hopkins needs to definitely fight Chad before he retires. Pass the torch, it's a must!
Hopkins is just too inactive to be considered the best at the division.He's not fighting top rated guys in the division either.Hopkins give Johnson a beating but that was as a middleweight and I disagree about Hopkins beating Tarver more decisively,Dawson shut Tarver out in their first fight and put on an excellent performance in doing so.
Hopkins is an old man and just looking for a payday and one last fight to seal his legacy.I'm disappointed the Adamek fight didn't come through,because he had a greater chance in beating him than he does David Haye IMO.
Dawson beat Tarver more decisively in the first fight than Hopkins. But that WAS when Tarver was younger.
Dawson was brilliant that night,both offensively and defensively.The only round you could give to Tarver was the round in which Dawson deliberately took off(sixth round I think)
It's a common tactic used by many mma personalities to justify their criticism of boxing.They will claim how much the love the sport and then rant on about how it sucks and how it's dead.
Dana White can talk about the scumbag boxing promoters all he wants,but this is a guy who has threatened to blacklist any mma fighter who agree's to sign for some computer game with EA sports.
This is a guy who released one of his fighters because he wouldn't sign a lifetime contract to allow his name and likeness to be used in all future ufc merchandise.The guy was only re-hired again when he did sign the contract.
Larry has his good days and bad days,sometimes he will come across as a warm,kind hearted man and other days he will come across as a grumpy,spiteful old man.
I have to say tho,Larry's wife looks suprisingly good and young for her age.
Most exciting fighter in the sport as far as I'm concerned.The guy is consistently entertaining and always gives it his all.He can move and box quite well and he has that edge to him where he can immediately switch gears and turns a boxing match into an all out war.
Some guys go into a shell when they get clocked,Pascal just fires back.
It will be interesting to see how Dawson deals with such a livewire,I think he will but Pascal just offers a little something more than Tarver and Johnson IMO.
Let's not pretend that Margarito just blew through Cintron the second time because he didn't,he took some huge shots in the rematch and I don't think Cotto has the chin to absorb such shots.Cotto's best option would be to close the distance and negate Cintron's power and rip into his body as soon and often as possible.
Surprised how many see Morales as a greater fighter because I can't see it myself.Barrera has the overall better resume but Morales the better at 122(even though I felt he lost to Barrera in their first fight).
Perhaps it's because Morales is the more likable of the two and didn't make excuses for his losses,but that shouldn't play a part in their accomplishments as fighters.
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I honestly think that Drago would have kicked Creed's ass in his prime too.
It started mainly with him turning down Antonio Margarito when he was having issues with Top Rank.Arum did this on purpose.
Mayweather actively pursued the top junior welterweights at the time and Hatton declined and Arum thought it was a little early for Cotto to be in the same ring with Mayweather.
BTW I have no reason to make this up because Floyd was one of my favorite fighters at that time.
Do you have an actual source? It's very difficult to blatantly duck somebody two weight classes below you.
BTW some of you guys clearly had no idea about the whole story. If you did then you would know what the TS is talking about. Im not saying people should sh!t on either fighter but it's a difference talking trash and blatant disrespect. Again, I'm not saying anyone hate them for it, but at the same time I have no issue with someone calling them out on it.
Neither do you,are you honestly stupid enough to believe that you know the entire story because you watched the thrilla in manila documentary? because I would be willing to guess that is where got most of your information from.
Frazier was hardly a nice guy and was hardly respectful of Ali himself,and has shown himself to be as cruel as Ali,he himself has admitted to trashing opponents,he even called buster Mathis an uncle tom did Frazier.
ali is in a mansion, frazier sleeps upstairs in his boxing gym
Are you somehow implying that it is Ali's fault that Frazier wasted all his millions?
fraziers kid would get picked on and beaten because ali said his father is an uncle tom
Again,you know this only because they put out a documentary sympathetic to Frazier.They could have said that Ali was the cause of all wrongs in the world and people like you would have believed it.
can you intellegently reply to one of my posts instead of just posting useless garbage and spamming? i think your the troll
I honestly wouldn't have bothered in highlighting this if you hadn't had the nerve to put this in.You're blatantly trolling now,and the title of this thread is a clear attempt at trolling and only a troll would deny that it was.
"Thrilla in Manila" was a joke of a documentary. Not that Ali was a saint, the documentary did expose that, but it was terribly biased and you should not make up your opinion on the Ali-Frazier rivarly based on it.
Frazier and Ali were never friends, it was actually Frazier who was agitating and calling out Ali (who at that time was out of the fight game due to the Vietnam war controversy) in a 1969 talk show, insulting him by calling him "Clay" and saying Ali was scared of him. Frazier mainly lended money to Ali, defended him and helped him out so he could get Ali in the ring and beat him up in order to call himself the real champ.
Since then Ali and Frazier have made up and became enemies again and again. In recent interviews Frazier has again said that he has forgiven Ali, hopefully this time for good.
Agreed mate,you're very well read on old articles and you would know that Frazier and his team always used to refer to Ali as Clay and went out of their way to refer him as that way.Ali learned to tolerate floyd patterson because they became friends later on and Ali even joked that he didn't mind him calling it leading up to their rematch
People say that it's just Frazier side of the story but there absolutely nothing right in sensationalising a story.That documentary did nothing to present another side to the story,rather than cut down a guy just because you can.
Ali wasn't a saint,he was a human with flaws as we all have.You could point out how cruel Ali could be as one of his negative points,and then I could just show them a video like this as one of his positive sides.
why dont you show me documentary saying otherwise?
saying that it was all fraziers fault?
Who the hell said it was Frazier fault? Not me.This game of "who was right,who was wrong" is childish as hell and I don't need to watch one documentary to educate me on a topic,and I'm not stupid to believe everything that some documentary tells me either.
being called by your birth name defienetly justifies what ali did, yea....
what you problem is right now, is your closed minded
alot of people in this forum get butthurt questioning any of the old timers ATG
there is no subjectivity, you accept it as it has always been, and, all of them were suppossedly great people
dont get me wrong, ali was a great man and a great fighter, but also an asshole.
an asshole that you should pull your head out of
So because I didn't agree with your troll thread,then I am wrong and you are right?
If anyone here is being close minded here,then it is you.Your entire knowledge of this topic comes from one documentary which makes you so ignorant of the topic.
Ali had changed his name two years prior to when Frazier went out of his way to start to antagonise all by calling him Clay.
Why should Frazier be excused for acting as childish and confrontational as Ali was?
Ali was engaging, charming, articulate and Witty. Floyd's an illiterate, crass imbecile.
Not even comparable, their trash talk.... not one iota.
Surprising that he was too because Floyd probably did better in school than Ali.Ali once did an IQ test and it was very low apparently
Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing but from what I have read,most real boxing fans want to see Mayweather and Mosley.If Mayweather beat Mosley convincingly you would still get those who will try and discredit Mayweathers win but that's the fight I and many others would rather see.
You can't really say that Roy was on his way to victory simply because he won the first round,there was eleven rounds left.I think even at that stage Roy Jones still had the ability to beat Tarver.I think Tarver always gives him a competitive fight but that Roy Jones at most stages in his career beats him.The third fight was as much as Jones losing the fight as it was Tarver winning it.
If there ever was a fight to be in attendace at
Ali.
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The greatest HW ever. Biggest revered figure in boxing history.
It's a shame that some try to discredit the great man.Boxing was lucky to have him
Was Khan hated on after the Olympics? NO he wasn't, if it was because of race people wouldn't have supported him after the Olympics. The real hate started after the Prescott loss when people realised he just isn't that good. Same thing happened with Audley Harrison.
The olympics happened in 2004,alot has changed since then.