Glen Johnson just proved Dawson deserves to be in the top 10P4P

There's VARIOUS reasons why: Cloud only fights when Saturn & Venus are aligned Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, and Pascal ARE better fighters than Cloud and their records prove it Cloud's belt isn't worth as much as the WBC Everything that you criticize Dawson for, Cloud is actually more guilty of. You make no sense. Hey, I don't disagree with the fact that Cloud is inactive as shit. That's why he better get on the ball and accept this fight with Johnson. But I'm just saying that it looks bad that Dawson is letting Johnson do his dirty work for him regardless of how inactive Cloud is. Cloud and Dawson fought each other in the amateurs like I mentioned before, and if Dawson was confident of beating him he would've fought him already.

No he doesn't. Williams lost to Quintana and should have lost to Martinez, neither guy is a p4p fighter. Dawson has dominated everyone he has ever fought and never lost once. He is much better than Williams in every aspect of the sport. Really? I thought Glen Johnson beat him in the first fight. And he was holding on for dear life after a weight drained version of Adamek knocked him on his ass. And he got hit a lot in both fights with Tarver even though he won the majority of the rounds. That's being dominant? To be fair, Dawson's and Williams' resumes are just as good.

If you dont understand why Williams is P4P Top 10. You need to go watch more boxing. No he doesn't. Williams lost to Quintana and should have lost to Martinez, neither guy is a p4p fighter. Dawson has dominated everyone he has ever fought and never lost once. He is much better than Williams in every aspect of the sport.

DAwson is top 5 p4p in my opinion.

I am saying that Cloud is naturally bigger than Pascal and he is. And not only that, a Cloud-Dawson fight has history behind it because of their time in the amateurs together. There's a reason why Dawson is avoiding him. There's VARIOUS reasons why: Cloud only fights when Saturn & Venus are aligned Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, and Pascal ARE better fighters than Cloud and their records prove it Cloud's belt isn't worth as much as the WBC Everything that you criticize Dawson for, Cloud is actually more guilty of. You make no sense.

Both Pascal and Dawson started their career fighting at a few pounds north of middleweight. Dawson comes down from the 190's now, as seen on HBO. Do you know what Pascal comes down from? Cloud? How do you know he's naturally bigger than them? Also, what did that post have to do with mine? Was it simply a wind up? I am saying that Cloud is naturally bigger than Pascal and he is. And not only that, a Cloud-Dawson fight has history behind it because of their time in the amateurs together. There's a reason why Dawson is avoiding him.

wel some people have williams in there top 10 P4P (not sure why) but if pwill is anywhere near the top 10 then dawson has to be in there dawson > williams in every possible way-skills,resume

I want to see Dawson-Hopkins so bad. Well, I did want to see it bad now I'm not so sure about Hopkins. If he is still the same Bernard I want to see that fight. Poor Chad Dawson, the guy doesn't have that wow factor to draw people to his fights, and his whole career will probably suffer for it.

I don't know. Hopkins beat Johnson and Tarver more decisively. But he's obviously really really old and I don't know how he'll be able to be that active vs. Chad's style. Hopkins needs to definitely fight Chad before he retires. Pass the torch, it's a must! Stlyes make fights and Dawson is too fast for Hopkins........thats hopkins only real weakness....he struggles against true speed.........

If Dawson beats Pascal convincingly I will have Dawson in my top 5 P4P... Dawson is the best fighter at 175... I don't see nobody in that weight-class right now that can beat him...

man you will never give Dawson credit. Just admit it. I give Dawson credit where it's due like when it comes to his win over Adamek and I give him some credit for his second win over Johnson. I just think he's overrated and he would've had to dig down for that win over Glen in the second fight if he had to engage with him in a phone booth type of ring like Mack did instead of an olympic track.

HBO made a proposition for Dawson to fight Cloud in April and he turned it down and instead is fighting a naturally smaller, less powerful fighter coming off a shoulder and collar bone injury two months later. That's a bitch move to me. Both Pascal and Dawson started their career fighting at a few pounds north of middleweight. Dawson comes down from the 190's now, as seen on HBO. Do you know what Pascal comes down from? Cloud? How do you know he's naturally bigger than them? Also, what did that post have to do with mine? Was it simply a wind up?

HBO made a proposition for Dawson to fight Cloud in April and he turned it down and instead is fighting a naturally smaller, less powerful fighter coming off a shoulder and collar bone injury two months later. That's a bitch move to me. man you will never give Dawson credit. Just admit it.

Okay, but do you agree that Pascal has improved since that fight, and would be the favorite to beat him in a rematch? Also, what if someone hold the opinion of "Well, Cloud isn't that good." Does that make a Dawson-Cloud fight not that good? The fact is, Dawson should fight both guys. They are the two best young LHWs outside Dawson and both would be quality victories for him. HBO made a proposition for Dawson to fight Cloud in April and he turned it down and instead is fighting a naturally smaller, less powerful fighter coming off a shoulder and collar bone injury two months later. That's a bitch move to me.

Just because Pascal is ranked higher doesn't make him a better fighter. I just don't see anything special about the guy. I'm not saying he's a horrible fighter. But he's just not that good either. Froch beat him already and I don't think Cloud or Johnson even for that matter would lose to Froch. Combine this with the fact that he's dealing with a shoulder injury. Okay, but do you agree that Pascal has improved since that fight, and would be the favorite to beat him in a rematch? Also, what if someone hold the opinion of "Well, Cloud isn't that good." Does that make a Dawson-Cloud fight not that good? The fact is, Dawson should fight both guys. They are the two best young LHWs outside Dawson and both would be quality victories for him.

I really want to see Johnson-Cloud now. Johnson really impressed me (again) and he will expose Cloud if he isn't for real...

haha, how is he scared when he's fighting a guy that is generally considered a tougher opponent than him? Show me any respectable media outlet/organization that has Cloud rank higher than Pascal. Please. Just because Pascal is ranked higher doesn't make him a better fighter. I just don't see anything special about the guy. I'm not saying he's a horrible fighter. But he's just not that good either. Froch beat him already and I don't think Cloud or Johnson even for that matter would lose to Froch. Combine this with the fact that he's dealing with a shoulder injury.

I'm not saying I don't agree with that. That's why I hope Johnson beats him when they fight. But that doesn't change the fact that Dawson is scared of Cloud. haha, how is he scared when he's fighting a guy that is generally considered a tougher opponent than him? Show me any respectable media outlet/organization that has Cloud rank higher than Pascal. Please.

The 40 year old guy has fought like 78 times more than Cloud has fought in 2 years. You don't see anything wrong with THAT picture? Cloud is one of the most inactive ranked fighters in the business. How does this guy have the right to claim people are ducking him when HE himself doesn't put in the work? BTW Pascal is ranked higher than Cloud Pascal is more versatile than Cloud Pascal is the WBC LHW Champion, a BETTER, legacy enhancing fighter than Cloud. I'm not saying I don't agree with that. That's why I hope Johnson beats him when they fight. But that doesn't change the fact that Dawson is scared of Cloud.

Yeah, while the 40 year old guy who he has just beat will have fought twice before he does. You don't see something wrong with that picture? The 40 year old guy has fought like 78 times more than Cloud has fought in 2 years. You don't see anything wrong with THAT picture? Cloud is one of the most inactive ranked fighters in the business. How does this guy have the right to claim people are ducking him when HE himself doesn't put in the work? BTW Pascal is ranked higher than Cloud Pascal is more versatile than Cloud Pascal is the WBC LHW Champion, a BETTER, legacy enhancing fighter than Cloud.