I think Canelo wins, provided he's in the proper condition.
He gassed by the 5th or 6th round of this fight. When he punched, he was effective, but his attack was inconsistent in the middle to latter portion of the fight. I scored it even.
Just didn't see enough clean punching from Fury in this fight. Whether or not he got a KO is not the key, it's moreso the lack of really imposing himself against this level of opponent that is bothersome.
I also feel he needs 1 or 2 more fights before fighting Wilder or Joshua.
Dimitrenko doesn't have a good chin, but his biggest problem is his mentality. He let Jennings just walk him down with no resistance (other than holding and the knockdown he scored).
He's like some other tall fighters, who have potential to be better, but just don't know their own strength.
He's incredibly bad. If they must keep him employed, just let him do the pre-fight segments, like the one he did with King and Arum earlier this year.
But he is not a boxing announcer.
Mauro Ranallo is still by far the worst.
Even though he is a blow by blow commentator
I feel mixed about Mauro. His delivery can be quite annoying, but at least he knows something about boxing, and can pretty accurately identify what's going on in the ring.
Kriegal has no clue, and yet tries to contradict Bradley's analysis.
as I said in another thread, 4-2 or 3-3 are the only scores possible. I don't think I've ever in my life agreed with a Harol Ledderman card. This is the same guy that scored the Maurice Harris vs Larry Holmes fight for Holmes in a fight that it was hard to even give Holmes a clear round. He has his agenda. Had Kovalev made it out of the 7th round after, I wouldn't have been shocked had he only scored it only 10-8 for Alvarez. He doesn't even try to hide his biasness and Max seems like he's afraid to go against him. He'll say, "well I have the fight ____" but won't publicly challenge Ledderman's bs. Let's not forget that Ledderman gave Kovalev the 9th round in the first fight against Ward too. I still don't know how he managed to do that as well.
Agreed 100%. I remember watching that fight on the old USA Tuesday Night Fights, and Harris put on a clinic and easily outboxed and outfought Larry Holmes. Horrible robbery. I had forgotten that Lederman was one of the judges.
If he decides to keep fighting, he probably should change trainers, but only if he is going to actually listen to them.
He really seems on the decline though.
Berto/Alexander was very close, I had Alexander with a razor thin decision. Devon tired badly down the stretch, and I give Berto credit for not getting discouraged after a rough start.
Saw about the last 5 rounds of the Bivol fight. The man has skills, he was in there with a durable guy in Chilemba, but I was expecting more.
I felt Kovalev was vulnerable, as I've really been impressed with Alvarez when I've seen him, and as others have noted, Kovalev has not been the same since the Ward fights. Specifically, I felt Kovalev did not look that good in his previous fight with Mikhalkin. He was getting tagged with a lot of shots, but fortunately for him, vs. a guy with not much power.
I felt Alvarez could win, but didn't expect such a devastating KO.
You can't go by other fights with fighters with completely different styles like Chilemba and Smith because styles do make fights. I'm not saying Smith beats him but I wouldnt write him completely off against Bivol. Bivol beat Chilemba but looked sloppy not like the hbo crew made it out to be.
I agree with this to an extent. While I believe Smith would be better served taking a tuneup, don't count him out in this fight.
Bivol clearly beat Chilemba, but Chilemba was landing a bit more frequently than the HBO crew were acknowledging.
I feel Bivol's defense is going to have to be more on point in this fight, otherwise, he might have some serious problems.
Sergio mora beasted at commentary. I mean he understood what was going on in the ring more than Leonard. Man DAZN needs to hold on to him. He's the next paulie malignaggi in the commentating game!
Paulie wishes he was that good. Paulie is a good analyst, but he takes himself way too seriously. He's always trying to trump what Al Bernstein is saying.
Sergio, on the other hand, gave solid analysis, yet at the same time allows the others in the booth to shine.
Me and my pops are big SRL fans. I see a lot of peeps today hate on him as a commentator. Why? tho? I thought he's a credible person to speak on the sport obviously.
I'm a huge SRL fan, and he certainly has the credibility to speak on the sport. It's just that if you saw the telecast yesterday, it was clear that something was off with him.
He added really no analysis to the boxing that was taking place. He was saying things that just didn't match with what was happening in the ring. He also was struggling at times to get words and phrases out. It's sad but true.
I agree i like Sergio mora way more than malignaggi. I just meant he's the next boxer to actually make it a real career how malignaggi did with showtime.
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He should.
He's shot to bits and was never that good anyway
Agree with you with all but the "was never that good anyway". Lucas was very good in his prime and deserved the decison in both the Devon Alexander and Zab Judah fights.
Lucas, in addition to being a great puncher, also exhibited good boxing skills earlier in his career.
That said, IMO he's not been the same after the John Molina, Jr. and Provodnikov fights. Yes, they were wins, but he took huge punishment in those fights.
He also seemed to lose confidence in himself after those fights and the Postol loss. He seems so mentally weak now.
Last night was just sad. He just plodded forward and did the same thing over and over, most of which was nothing.
I believe Lucas should retire immediately, this is coming from a long time fan of his.
Absolutely no controversy here. I felt Canelo won 7-5. I could have easily seen a draw or 7-5 GGG. That is simply not a robbery.
This was a great fight. Both guys took big shots, fought through fatigue, and gave it there all in the 12th and final round.
It absolutely wasn't a robbery. What the hell is wrong with boxing fans? Every close fight is considered a robbery? GGG closed strong, but Canelo was landing the better shots up until the last few rounds. GGG had a nice rally but fell a bit short. No shame in that.
I just don't understand it either. Guys need to stop scoring fights by what the punchstats say, stop scoring fights by what the announcers say, stop scoring fights by what the unofficial judges say, stop scoring fights by who you put money on or who you want to win and just watch the fight.
Excuses and crying from GGG fangirls. They found out santa Claus ain't real. The hype job who made a name beating on bums and tomato cans got exposed the moment he started fighting good fighters. The kos disappeared and excuse making began. First it was GGG Kos anyone from 154 to 168. Too scared to move up couldn't ko "chinny" Jacobs and couldn't ko the smaller canelo. We know why he ducked ward. The moment he faced good fighters he went from Mexican style to scared jab style. 2 fights with canelo Got outlanded in power shots in both. His face was worse then canelo after both. He laughably missed 500 punches the first fight and 600 the second. Had a lower connect rate then canelo both fights. After escaping Jacobs fight you said well canelo has cement legs he can't run like Jacobs did to survive that GGG would get him on the ropes and kill him. After the fight you cry canelo ran even though he layed on the ropes for 1/3 the fight and never got hurt. Second fight he stands toe to toe and walks GGG down. GGG was a hype job.
Canelo turned him into a lost confused 1 punch fighter. Big drama show and Mexican style? More like little drama show and scared jab style.
Awesome post.
"Mexican style to scared jab style" - too funny, but accurate
I like Ortiz here. I think he's just too skilled, smart and powerful for Parker.
I think about the only chance for Parker, is if the fight lasted at least until the 10th round, and Ortiz's stamina fell apart.
Tim is pretty good, I think he brings some good insight.
IMO he is the lone bright spot, on an otherwise embarrassingly awful, inept and biased for the house fighter announce team.
Yeah I agree. Stood Straight up. dragging that bum leg around. He looked like he been shot and shouldn't be fighting. Not with top guys at least.
The leg certainly bothered him, especially as the fight went on.
But I thought he fought decently everything considered. He was landing his jab very well, and was able to land in general in this fight at reasonable percentage.
His main issues were the leg, stamina issues in the second half of the fight, lack of volume punching and of course, Crawford upping his level after a slow start.
Arguably the worst commentary team I've ever heard. Just terrible. Tim Bradley is ok, but Tessitore and Kriegal are awful with their bias for the house fighter. People say just mute the sound, but you wanna hear the shots land and the crowd react. This was a really good fight, but listening to Joe and Kriegal, you would think it was all one-way traffic.
You almost have to respect ESPN (on Top Rank and GBP shows) for not even trying to hide it
But they HAVE to get Kreigel off the mic.
Ever since they took Teddy off the announce team, the bias has been through the roof and then some.
And agreed a million percent on Kriegal, he's good for pre-fight stories, but completely pathetic in the broadcast booth.
I think Jacobs clearly won the fight although I had it closer than a couple of the judges scorecards. Immense credit to Sulecki however, he put in a very solid performance. Great jab and judging by his recovery after the knockdown a good chin as well. He will come again.
This. I scored the fight 7-5 for Jacobs, but had it 5-5 thru 10. This was a very close, hotly contested fight. Jacobs was not that sharp or accurate, particularly for a fighter of his quality. Sulecki got into a rhythm in the middle rounds, bouncing shots off of Jacobs' head. Unfortunately for Sulecki, he just doesn't have any power.
Tank would be a hard fight for Lomachenko. The guy has a great combination of speed and power. He goes to the head and body. He's not lacking in the confidence department, which I like as well. Good to see that he has a solid trainer in Kevin Cunningham.
Unlike Rigo and Walters, he will come to fight. Will he win? I don't know, but I give him a good chance.
What monster shot has Golovkin been hit with? The left hook from Stevens is probably the biggest punch he's taken, and Stevens isn't a monster puncher. He's got a good chin no doubt about it, but it's his defense that is underrated.
Stevens may not be a great boxer, but the man has serious power.