If Zab trains hard he can beat ANYONE at 140.
I really dont see Golden Boy putting him in with Zab unless they are forced to.
I do however see Victor Ortiz fighting Zab and could cause problems for Zab.
Maidana got REAL lucky against Ortiz the first time...that is why he is scared.
He is a scared ass bitch.
I see Ortiz destroying ANYONE and EVERYONE at 140 INCLUDING Amir Khan.
Kotelnik looked like the stronger guy.
He blocked almost ALL of Devon's punches.
Alexander looks like an amateur fighter and Kotelnik looks like a pro.
The way he timed Alexander was ****ing TEXTBOOK I mean ****ing brilliant.
The only time Alexander landed something hard was in the 10th round.
Kotelnik landed all the hard clean shots....Kotelnik hurt Alexander WAY more Kotelnik won that fight.
I dont get Harold Ledermans scoring in this fight....Alexander did nothing but get rocked the entire fight.
Give Kotelnik credit...he was brought in to be a soft touch and turned out being anything but.
This guy is a good veteran fighter and he is world class give him his due.
I believe he would have beaten Khan if Khan wasnt so freaking big for a 140 pounder.
Other than his speed Amir Khan is very ordinary and a knockout waiting to happen.
He's coming off a HORRIBLEY one-sided loss to an old Vernon Forrest, and a win over an absolute nobody.
Not to mention the fact that he never was anybody, and his only victory of ANY note was over a faded Vernon Forrest who basically proved their first fight was a fluke when he beat Mora senseless in the rematch.
And ON TOP of all this, Mora can't sell for SHIT. He isnt popular at all. And the people who DO kno he exists seem to strongly dislike him.
Meanwhile Mosley was THE weltherweight champ less then 4 months ago, and is coming of a loss against one of the best fighters of this era in a fight that he had a lot of success in early.
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Im going to ASSUME they picked Mora cause he has some Spanish roots somewhere and its on Mexican Independence day and whatever, and they feel this will help sell tickets for a fight thats tough to sell...
... But what about a fight against Angulo (a REAL mexican) for a non-title fight at 154.
That fight just makes so much sense to me at this point. Not as much sense as Cotto-Angulo, but still. Mosley-Angulo is a CLASSIC crossroads match and it would be a great war considering both guys styles and Mosley's age.
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I just dont get boxing. When they arent making fights for the fans, they are making the for the money. And when they arent making fights for the money, they STILL aren't making them for the fans??? Just non-sensical really
You sound like a fat jackass.
You must be one of those fat ass loudmouth boxing fans because you sound very ignorant.
LOL @ Arum wanting JMM to fight the top guys at 140 and his own fighter before he puts Manny in the ring against JMM.
Arum MUST be senile.
He is killing the sport.
God I hate that bastard.
Its amazing how when he says shit like this these ****head reporters dont jump all in his shit but they are very selective about who they go after.
We KNOW that Pacquaio has been dodging Joan Guzman for years.
HE wont fight Jmm again and he WONT fight Mosley!
NONE OF THESE REPORTERS GO AFTER THEM ABOUT THIS!!
It drives me crazy when all you see everyday is "Mayweather is scared,he is a bitch,he is this is that"
I wonder what TOP RANK fighter Pacquaio will fight next?
Or Cotto will fight next?
Or Chavez Jr will fight next?
This is killing the sport!!!!!!!
No one wants to see this shit.
I hope Pacquaio Margarito bombs like crazy and the investors loose their ass....I really do.
Ok
I just watched the fight and Pascal won that hands down.
Dawson just needs to be more aggressive he let this guy do what he wanted.
Dawson could have killed this guy because Pascal comes in all wild and throws his punches but Dawson never tried to counter him.
Pascal leaves his hands down and was wide open for counter shot ALL NIGHT LONG.
Dawson just didnt want to get hit...he fights WAY TIMID.
Honestly I see Dawson knocking this guy out in a rematch.
I was surprised by Pascals hand speed...he threw some good combos but after he threw his combos he was wide open for ANYTHING.
Pascal needs to work on his footwork and defense....he is a good fighter.
I just dont see Dawson as a great fighter and as much as I dislike some of the things Larry Merchant says he is absolutely right about Dawson....he NEVER stands his ground.
Pascal won...he deserved it....great win for him and Cananda.
Oh...The headbutt was accidental......Pascal was getting hammered but didnt look hurt...
Those people that say Pascal was about to get knocked out must be smoking something....I didnt see that...even that uppercut that stopped Pascal in his tracks...he came right back punching his legs did not buckle at all.
danawhite is doing the right thing....if he pays the fightr way too much, theyre just gonna act like divas...you know , crap like retring aftyer not proving shit...then retiring again not giving the fans what they want ....shit like that happen in boxing, and thats whats wrong with it!....
I hate Dana White MORE than I hate Bob Arum and that says a lot.
You sound like a complete ****ing idiot you ass clown.
Go stick your head under a faucet and drown yourself you douchebag.
I just hate than Dana White guy SOOOOO much....I would love to see someone knock his fat ass out.
I knew going in that Shanes only chance to be Floyd would be to catch him with a shot which he almost did.
Shane has never had a jab....ever.
I have heard him described as a SLUGGER with fast hands and I agree with that.
To be able to even THINK you can beat Floyd you must have the jab and use it.
Also you cant be open to Floyds right hand.
I knew Floyd would start to tag him all night because slower fighters have tagged Shane with there right hands.
Also...standing and fighting Floyd in the middle of the ring is a mistake....
I would try to get him against the ropes and bang away at that body.
I have hated that fat bastard for a while now....he is VERY biased.
Im sure Larry Merchant drown himself in vodka cocktails tonight....another nasty biased ****er.
I have to disagree with a lot of people here.
I think Pavlik could knock out Dawson because he has a weak chin.
He is very chinny AND HAS BEEN HURT BEFORE.
I dont think Pavlik wants any part of Bute though.
I have to admit I wanted Paulie to win but I have nothing but respect for Amir.
His defense is much improved....he did some good things in there.
I like others noticed that he was uncomfortable when Paulie pressured him....Im sure Roach sees this to and will work on it because it will be hard for ANYBODY to outbox this kid he is WAY too fast.
Roy is just shot....no reflexes nothing.
He did the best he could.
He really should retire.
Hopkins?
Wow....where do I begin?
He is a very dirty fighter and a bitch.
He still wants to fight....I see him getting hurt especially if he gets in the ring wiht David Haye.
That was the WORST FIGHT EVER!
EVEEEEEEER!
work rate = EPO
Power = steroids, HGH
Chin = A-side meth
some people need to realise that Pac is a great fighter and stop making dumb excuses!
How come hes gotten SO much better and the very END of his career?
I have never seen or heard of any other fighter EVER do that.
Yeah I know, this looks like a steroid bait thread but when a fighter is not landing punches isn't it a bit unusual to maintain that work rate for 12 rounds? Sure there are some fighters known for high volume output, P. Will, Kassim Ouma, Margarito, etc...but those punches aren't what anyone would call powershots. Manny's punches seemed to maintain the same snap and zing all night, all humans must suffer fatigue at some point, I dont even think Manny was breathing hard.
Some say he looked tired after 6 but I disagree, he just looked frustrated cause he wasn't landing. The guy averaged 100+ punches per round, at some point shouldn't he had punched himself out?
Its not unusal if your taking something and WONT submit to random drug test.
Yeah....your right we ARE under rating his chin and for GOOD REASON!
Paulie ROCKED Diaz several times in the second fight and DIAZ is WAAAAY more durable than Amir.
I like Amir...Im no hater but him being with Freddie Roach is ALL WRONG.
Khan needs to be trained by the Mayweathers because defense is what they do and with Khans blazing speed he could be great.
All Roach is doing is getting Khan ready to get knocked out.
Its sad but true.
Name one fighter that Roach has ever trained that was a great defensive fighter?
And before you say James Toney realize that Roach did not teach him that style.
Khan could be unbeatable if he learned the mayweather defensive style.
In defense of Plasterito.....this was his first fight back after taking a horrific beatdown.
He might be shot but its way too soon to say that but I wouldnt be surprised because he has been fighting professionally since he was 15 years old.
Margarito has never had good technique and was always a banger.
People have been saying Cotto has been shot since the Margarito fight so there you go.
I tell you this:If Foreman had the jab Miguel would have been in big trouble.
I thought Miguel looked fantastic....his jab was amazing and he moved very well.
Anytime you have a shorter guy out jabbing you your in big trouble thats why I knew Foreman had no chance.
I believe like MANY others that pacman is juicing big time.
It started with the David Diaz fight.
Look at the Clottey fight ....how can anyone AVERAGE over 100 punches a ROUND?
No one has that kind of stamina naturally.
I think it would be interesting if someone looked at pacmans previous fights and did some comparisons.
I know what I see and what I see is not right or natural coming from the pacman......thats all.
The way he walked through Cottos punches?
Not natural.
Everyone knows that certain stimulants give you superman strength...its just a fact.
You all are going to see this guy kill someone in the ring and then what will you say?
Cotto did a good job, but i understand how there was very little improvement, at this point he hasn't been with Steward that long. With time, if anyone can make Cotto a more well-rounded fighter it would be Steward.
Uh....how you can you say "I understand how there was very little improvement"?
Did you NOT see his jab?
His jab has NEVER looked that good and the power it had too.
Did you not noticed the much improved footwork?
I thought he looked pretty good EXCEPT for those right hands he was taking.....
Im not a Froch fanboy but Im rooting for him on this one.
The template to beat AA is known....movement and speed will stymie AA's much vaunted power.
I have to say if Durrell could knock AA down Froch can knock him out!
Im rolling with Froch on this one.
I have to give it to Froch....that was a hell of a fight and by FAR the best fight so far of the SUPER 6.
But.......
I think the game plan for Froch was to be cautious because Kessler is a viscous counterpuncher.
Froch as I and MANY other people have stated over and over again waste too much energy trying to be a Roy Jones clone and looking a fool for trying.
I even saw that idiot trying to do the shoulder roll.
Kessler hurt him VERY badly in the eight round...he did a funky chicken dance and was almost out of there trying to be Roy Jones.
He just does stupid shit that in my opinion wate energy and takes away from his effectiveness.
I for sure thought Kessler won he was by far the most aggressive landing the most shots and backing Froch up.
Froch cant complain because when he got that decision against Dirrell ....he did absolutely NOTHING in that fight.
Do you remember any LEGAL punch he threw or combination?
He did nothing in that fight....although Dirrell almost knocked him out in the 11th he was staggered on the ropes.....as a matter of fact in his last 3 fights he has been hurt and close to being knocked out.
I do for some strange reason think he can beat Abraham.
It was a great fight however and the people got their moneys worth.
I thought Frochs' girlfriend would have the baby right then and there did you see the look on her face after seeing her boyfriend getting knocked around that ring?
I think the numbers for this fight are gonna be HUGE and Floyd will have
the upper hand in ANY negotiations with Arum for a PACMAN fight.
Floyd looked even BETTER tonight than against Marquez......this is very scary.
GBP is having an excellent 2010 so far.......Arum and TOP RANK not so much.