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usually looping shots get you in trouble but Larios was owning to the body.... did anyone else notice that Wayne McCullough's head was stationary the entire time even after Freddie told him to work the head movement... gotta give props to Larios for landing sick power shots even with two cuts.. and props to McCullough for having so much heart.

1. Prety Boy 2. Winky 3/4. Baby face assassin / El Terrible I don't get how Corrales is on your list of top 3 when he got molested by Pretty Boy ... "Who do you like Floyd? Falcons or Eagles?" - Lamp "FALCONS! I LIKE MICHAEL VICK" - PBF

That Floyd fight was a long time ago. Look what he did before Floyd and since. Also Floyd is the best so that doesnt hurt as much. How can MAB be on there whwn he was just molested by Pac, lost once to Morales and has been fighting alot of cupcakes and old guys. How can Morales be there when he lost to MAB twice and has been looking average in some fights includings a close win over a one arm Chaves which he couldve lost if he had two arms But Morales definately belongs in #3 more than Corrales. 1) Corrales had some good recent fights I admit, but that doesn't warrant him being #3. Besides don't forget Corrales himself was a hair away from being knocked out by Castillo. And he was stopped by Casamayor (down twice in that fight). He's in a similar situation as Morales in that he avenged his loss, but Morales wasn't TKO'd and he hasn't seen the canvas! Corrales down once again in the second fight against Casamayor i think in the 9th or 10th... I dont need to remind you how many times he was down against PBF (5)... Look at the recent fights and look at how many times his butt was planted on the Canvas and then think to urself "is this guy #3 behind the obvious PBF and WINKY" 2) Morales has had tougher opponents as of last 5 years. Chavez isn't no push over: El Matador hasn't lost since 95 (excluding Erik & PBF) And also El Matador avenged his 95 loss. You gotta give credit to Morales for standing in there with Hernandez / Pacman / Chavez / Barrera and duking it out with the best comp. 3) Erik obviously is fighting in a higher weight class thus that idiot Larios gets to keep his crown otherwise he'd get whooped 4) Warrior mentality - I think Morales has been a warrior for his entire career. I mean did you see him fight In-Jin Chi and get headbutted ... his left eye closed entirely and he continued and finished the fight up strong... with one eye. Corrales had one GREAT fight and all of a sudden he's better than Morales? Do I smell another Gatti story? And lastly there's no disputing PBF: He's beaten Castillo twice, El Matador, Hernandez and Corrales I only put MAB because I think he has Juice left... but definately Corrales is NOT #3.

Unless either one gets in a fatal accident there will definately be a rematch.

REMATCH !! ... nobody wants winky I CANT WAIT FOR THE REMATCH!! They should have it next week!!!! ha... I don't think anybody wants to fight Winky right now He's just sick and he cuts off the ring so well I think both fighters would have trouble with Winky... It seemed that Taylor was a little jittery... His inexperience made his punches a little too wide... He was smothering himself if anything else... stepping in waaaay too much... If he gets confident and learns from this fight... I think he's gonna win against Hopkins in the rematch... But i do agree with the dude above... i dont think hopkins was ever hurt which is sad. 26 Vs. 40 ... and the 26 year old is the one that got shook.

It is very rare for me to comment on something like this, but this has to be one of the most biased posts I have ever read on these boards. The post is so bad that is destroys any credibility in your posts towards Benn or Eubanks. Only beat up blown up guys? Several of his big wins were over opponents that moved up to higher weights. Including Glen Johnson, Syd Vanderpool and Antwon Echols. Robert Allen is a very dangerous middlweight, so was Eastman. I'm no Hopkins fan, but the guy is easily one of top 5 greatest middleweights of all-time. Only Greb, Robinson, Monzon and Hagler rank above him. what about Sugar Ray Leonard? his hand speed has to be one of the greatest of all time. I'm not saying he had the longevity but still if we base it on skill he's gotta be above Benard

Emanuel Steward: "The last world-class, natural Middleweight that Hopkins fought was Roy Jones, and he lost every round." Hopefully you gullable kids will stop hugging Hopkins' nuts now. 160 has been empty for 10 years or more. Hopkins has not beat anybody aside from blown-up little guys.. He was a fraud and grossly over-rated. I agree that some of the other middleweights of all time are waaaay above Hopkins just because they had sicker opponents... the Haglar/Hearns/Leonard love triangle ... the competition... they made each other a better fighters... but... Tito was not "blown up" and "little" Lets not demean what Hopkins accomplished.

That Hopkins or whatever his name is, is not an American great. The counter-punching version of Marvin Hagler of the late 70's would beat this Hopkins guy every single day of the week.. and twice on a Sunday. The Thomas Hearns that fought Hagler would wipe out Hopkins in one round. The Ray Leonard that fought Hagler would school Hopkins for 15 rounds. Mike McCallum would chop Hopkins down like a tree. The Michael Nunn that beat Kalambay in one round would do the same to Hopkins if he caught him with that wicked counter left hand (Kalambay had a better defence than Hopkins). Julian Jackson's right hand that layed Herol Graham out cold would do the same to Hopkins (Graham had a better defence than Hopkins). James Toney at his counter-punching best beats Hopkins atleast 9 times out of 10. Hopkins should not be considered an American great. I have to agree with this comment... Boxing was probably more pure back in those times... probably more technical and it was a skilled artform... I mean handspeed and power of these middleweights were devistating... Now-a-days I think the other prominent sports take away all the good athletes... i.e. imagine if Shaq ran 15 miles 3 times a day... did 2000 situps... and put on some gloves... he coulda be "Most Dominant Ever" hahaha but yeah comparing Hopkins and his "victums" to Middleweights of the 70's.. is like comparing Michael Jordan to Tony Parker... Both Champions Worlds Apart.

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Above Bernard? Leonard fought at middleweight 4 times! Two of the fights some fans thought he lost. The Hearns rematch was a robbery and one of the other two was against an old Duran. Well he never aspired to be a reigning king... but You gotta say that Leonard had some great moments.. If we're talking the greatest middleweights of all time... then you gotta go on skill at their prime... Sugar Ray Leonard's handspeed is one of the fastest And if you include Marvelous Marvin then you gotta include Sugar Ray L. Besides if it wasnt for that DARNED DETACHED RETINA!! He woulda been sick. He's somewhat of a ... Barry Sanders of Boxing... flashes of greatness ... never had the longevity. one could only imagine what he woulda done in a long healthy career.

Lamp was definately jerking himself off watching Jermain Taylor's sporadic jab. Most of his power shots were wide, but i have to admit if those have landed B-Hop might not have been able to turn it up in the later rounds. Those double left jabs followed by a wide right straight were stopping my heart everytime he threw them. I was certain that if one landed that B-HOP would get knocked out. Plus Stewart usually goes with the younger fighter. I love Stewart and I think he's a genius but I had an orgasm from the satisfaction of watching Vivian Harris get his ass handed to him by the rubber-band-man. Roy Jones I think was trying to keep it straight forward... but the fact is nobody has done THAT well against Benard in the early rounds (even when he took the early rounds slow) so I think everyone was pretty psych'd thus bias.

I just saw the fight with the sound turned off and had it exactly, 115-113 for Hopkins.I thought some of the early rounds where giving to Taylor for being aggresive yet he didnt land most of those punches. The funny thing is that the crowd was cheering for Hopkins later on... but all the commentators talked about is Hopkin's inability to start early... i seriously thought after 4 that taylor would damage Hopkins with his jab / handspeed / quick pace... but it was sort of a let down ... all Taylor did in the late rounds was flurry to the body... while hopkins was tagging him with that right hand...

espn had two even rounds in a 116-114 taylor. hopkins got the 12 round of course. if one of the judges had't of given the 12 round to taylor it would of been a draw. i would of scored a little stash in vBookie. with 3 even rounds i had it 116-115 taylor. hopkins got to taylor making taylor throw more glancing blows with rage. i'm suprised the inexperiance taylor didn't loose it when he seen his own blood after headbutt. that would of shrunk the confidents of even more expirienced boxers. taylor stood up to him. in the post fight taylor was already anylizing what he did wrong in the fight. man this guys for real. cant wait for the rematch..taylor does it easier second time around. all i can say is: exactly! He needed to fight his normal style... i didnt see him double/triple/quadripple up on his jabs like he normally does... Usually he circles his opponent jabbing them 2 3 4 consecutive times... in the second fight he'll unleash his jab from the starting bell.

Hatton is just ROUGH... I think he could be a wrestler as opposed to a boxer... If you put him in their with a ref that breaks them up... i dont think he'll have a chance in hell against PBF... But PBF was talking about fighting in ENGLAND!?I dunno there might be a riot when Hatton loses so I wouldnt wanna goto England... Where they just let you hold and hit? I saw the Kosta match with English commentators... and they were ridiculously bias...

You heard PBF tonight... he said Cotto was "Too green" So it's definately not PBF otherwise cotto would be raped. I wanna see him in there with a quicker opponent to see how he handles it. I don't like it when he leans back on the ropes and t's off...

Nobody is mentioning the fact that... his corner was telling him "WE NEED THIS ROUND..." and they were also giving him advice "Keep that Jab on him; he's just looking for the right hand" ... he didnt keep jabbing.. i just didnt understand why he would stop doing something he was doing so well... He WAS still immature during this fight.. (in my opinion he hasnt been in a real brawl or a scruffy fight)... he's been in these clean fights where he would be so much better that he would dominate. I think he'll be a different Jermain Taylor in the rematch. He'll be the Champion Jermain Taylor hahahaha.....

Yeah, I goto a local gym just for fitness and sometimes i spar with this old dude. He just rapes me to the body all the time... I mean I am DEFINATELY faster than this guy but the old man just out works me. But its one thing to lace em up just to spar and its another thing being a professional boxer. I think ultimately boxers should strive to obtain titles and strive to become better.

hahaha... hector camacho remember those tassles he used to wear? Next fight: Hector "Machito" Jr. vs. Demetrius Hopkins Match of the family names.. their match would consist of Kung-Fu Rock-Paper-Scissors....

That would actually be a good fight, LOL. Than winner takes on Chavez Jr, for Jr championship! Chavez could rape either one at will... what would be fair is if they did a tag-team match against Chavez Jr. D-Hop and Machito could fight every other round... ofcourse it would be a 24 round bout... but we both know it wouldnt go the distance.. both of those guys would get knock'd out in 4...

Merchant is so funny. He's so out of this world with his references to just about anything. Yeah your right Max isn't a great blow-by-blow guy...

I just think that Hopkins LOST the title Rather than Jermain TOOK the title... i know it seems ambiguous because either way he won, but i think in the rematch we'll see the real BAD INTENTIONS in Taylor.

It is not "who last in the end that matters." It is who accumulates the most points that wins. In this case, with all rounds being scored 10-9, it is the person who wins 7 rounds that wins the fight. That was Taylor. Hopkins started too late. Why is everyone talking about the later rounds / earlier rounds? The fight is over and the judges felt that Jermain won enough rounds... isnt that the only thing that matters? This thread is about reasons why Jermain Bad Intentions is going to win the second fight. I dont know why people are replying with "Hopkins will get better and KO Taylor"... So he'll win simply because he'll start earlier? We all know its going to be a different fight the second time around. A better fight. Hopefully one with a definate ending.

I dont think Taylor will win the rematch. Hopkins will study his mistakes from the first fight and come back better than ever. Yeah one scary thing about Hopkins is when Larry Merchant asked him about Taylor's mistakes, Hopkins was emphatic in expressing that Taylor made many mistakes in the fight. Mistakes or not both of them will be better acquainted with each other. I don't see how Hopkins will learn any more than Jermain Taylor. IMO Jermain Taylor's boxing skills are very sound and we as the audience / fan saw this when he won the rounds in the beginning due to his sheer agression / determination / superior speed. With that in mind he made some mistakes not because his style is flawed but rather he stopped doing what worked so well in the earlier rounds: 1) He stopped jabbing, 2) he stopped circling his opponent, 3) he was over anxious with stepping-in with his jabs that he smothered his own punches (especially the right cross after the jabs), 4) he dropped his left hand after jabbing. IMO the mistakes that Jermain made were MOSTLY mental mistakes. He was probably somewhat shocked that he had to go the distance against Hopkins, and I see how the stunned Taylor stopped boxing his game in the later rounds. I believe Taylor will be stronger / faster / younger and more importantly more confident leading to crisper punching.

This is not related to boxing i know but.. its more related to the curse... Does anyone know who's on the cover of the new Madden game? I know that the Ravens fell apart after Ray was on the cover And Vick got injured after he was on the cover... Who's NEXT!??

Unlike the guys you mentioned, Winky has won all his fights fo 6 yrs straight (them doos you wrote has lost in less time span). Became king at 154 undisputed and jest recently beat Trinidad wit EAZE and quality impression. Not to mention that HE MOVED UP a division to do tis! winky is another one of those fighters that doesnt knock anyone out... but his longevity definately makes him top 5... i think he's way above corrales... Corrales is a scrub!.. hahahaha im gonna get like 10 replies for that one.

Floyd just need to find the right opponents and take everyone out in the next 2 or 3 years. Then he'll solidify his #1 spot. I mean he's always claimed he's P4P #1 Should be interesting to see the JT / B-Hop rematch... The more and more I think about it ... I think Jermain knows now the level he needs to be at to execute his jab for 12 Rounds and the more and more I think about it ... I think Jermain is well on his way to climbing that P4P list.

are you retarded? okay.. consider sugar ray robinson fought 3 fights in 21 days and 2 fights in 8 days in one stretch... not only is he one of the greatest middleweight champs.. he's one of the greatest welterweight champs!! Amature record of 85 straight wins... of those... 69 knock outs... of those 40 in the first round! at one point he had a PRO record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts including a 91 fight winning-streak He was never knocked out in 25 years... He was ambidextrous... could knock people out with both hands... BOTH HANDS! Jermain Taylor woulda been knocked out in the first 30 seconds!!! I think you need to reconsider your position. (sorry i had all these stats i actually did a research paper on Sugar Ray Robinson hahaha)

the middleweight champs have avoided Sturm.....in the same way that Lennox Lewis avoided Butterbean.....there's gotta be some substance behind the hype, Sturm is kinda pretty & all, but he can't punch and has ZERO wins vs. top 10 competition I thought he messed up De La Hoya so I don't know what your talking about. One thing is for sure he's a pretty good fighter and showed that against Oscar. But I agree with the above, I think eventually he'll get his shot and then we can see what he's really made of

Am I the only fan that wants to see a confident middleweight?? I hate modesty. I want a champion who's a little more sure of himself... maybe that'll happen if he beats benard in the second fight... but how "great" is Jermain going to be if he can't stop a 40 year old man? In my opinion Jermain has more to prove in the second fight than Hopkins.

sorry to all the hatton fans out there, but beating an aging Kosta doesnt make you top ten... neither does beating a 40 year old Benard... P4P Jermain Taylor hasn't fought enough good opponents. But it could be argued that in a couple of years Jermain could be P4P-Top5.