Pound for Pound #1: Winky, Morales, or Floyd

Taking only skill into consideration, the best boxer p4p is by far Mayweather. When you start factoring in strength of competition, heart, chin, time fighting the best, etc., there is more controversy. Hopkins, Jones, and Tszyu are at the tail end of their careers. While their body of work makes them p4p, beating them in your first meaningful fight does not make you p4p. Also, fighting the best and narrowly losing does not take you out of the top 20. Note that I still have Hopkins rated higher than JT based on the fact that he was winning at the end. If he would have KOed JT at the end, he would have moved up in the all time p4p. My top 5 are: Mayweather Wright Morales Corrales Hopkins

Oh, but of course if the words P4P are mentioned, they all have to be American!... LOL!... :D There are more europeans controlling divisons than Americans but they will never be rated above an Americans P4P, mainly because P4P is an American controlled rating that cant be proven wrong. Heavyweight Vitali Klitschko - European Cruiserweight Jean Marc Mormeck - European Light Heavyweight Antonio Tarver - North America Super Middleweight Joe Calzaghe - European Middleweight Jermain Taylor - North American Light Middleweight Roman Karmazin -European Welterweight Zab Judah - North American Light Welterweight Ricky Hatton - European Lightweight Diego Corrales - North American(up for debate, IMO South American Castilo is number 1) Super Featherweight Erik Morales - South American Featherweight Juan Manuel Marquez - South American

1. Morales and/or Mayweather cant put anyone in the sport over Morales right now the man keeps on proving himself why he is top p4p every time out.

i gotta agree with mikefromstu, diego at #3 that shit is ridiculous, taylor is in the p4p top 5 cause he beat the guy most boxing critics considered #1 p4p, accompinied by in NO PARTICULAR ORDER morales, mayweather,wright, and tarver or barrera.

Who is the guy now that X has went down? I dont think Morales should be a option but a couple of guys have him there. Who is it 1)Mayweather(has been for years IMO) 2)Morales(has been since Tszyu was beaten) I dont rate Winky that highly, he's only beaten Mosley and Tito when they were way past their prime. He's top 10 but definitely not top 3.

That Floyd fight was a long time ago. Look what he did before Floyd and since. Also Floyd is the best so that doesnt hurt as much. How can MAB be on there whwn he was just molested by Pac, lost once to Morales and has been fighting alot of cupcakes and old guys. How can Morales be there when he lost to MAB twice and has been looking average in some fights includings a close win over a one arm Chaves which he couldve lost if he had two arms But Morales definately belongs in #3 more than Corrales. 1) Corrales had some good recent fights I admit, but that doesn't warrant him being #3. Besides don't forget Corrales himself was a hair away from being knocked out by Castillo. And he was stopped by Casamayor (down twice in that fight). He's in a similar situation as Morales in that he avenged his loss, but Morales wasn't TKO'd and he hasn't seen the canvas! Corrales down once again in the second fight against Casamayor i think in the 9th or 10th... I dont need to remind you how many times he was down against PBF (5)... Look at the recent fights and look at how many times his butt was planted on the Canvas and then think to urself "is this guy #3 behind the obvious PBF and WINKY" 2) Morales has had tougher opponents as of last 5 years. Chavez isn't no push over: El Matador hasn't lost since 95 (excluding Erik & PBF) And also El Matador avenged his 95 loss. You gotta give credit to Morales for standing in there with Hernandez / Pacman / Chavez / Barrera and duking it out with the best comp. 3) Erik obviously is fighting in a higher weight class thus that idiot Larios gets to keep his crown otherwise he'd get whooped 4) Warrior mentality - I think Morales has been a warrior for his entire career. I mean did you see him fight In-Jin Chi and get headbutted ... his left eye closed entirely and he continued and finished the fight up strong... with one eye. Corrales had one GREAT fight and all of a sudden he's better than Morales? Do I smell another Gatti story? And lastly there's no disputing PBF: He's beaten Castillo twice, El Matador, Hernandez and Corrales I only put MAB because I think he has Juice left... but definately Corrales is NOT #3.

Just exactly which one of Winky's recent wins was over bad competition? Cause I'd say that two wins over Mosely and a complete thrashing of Tito would be considered quality wins over very good competition! You would? See i didnt see a trashing of tito,I saw him outclassed,as has been done before,and what i would call in better fashion,beating tito at that point was a little redundant.What i mean by good competition is a young fighter,preferrably one that hasnt moved up from a lower weight,where he wasnt even the best(Mosley).Literaly,lets see him fight somebody his own size,thats talented,but maybe he wants a Trinidad rematch?Maybe Vargas?

I like Pretty Boy and all but come on now Mosley twice and Tito with such ease should put Winky on top.

Twinky will lose when he faces good competition,i realise where he deserves to be ranked but that just because he hasnt lost in a while. Just exactly which one of Winky's recent wins was over bad competition? Cause I'd say that two wins over Mosely and a complete thrashing of Tito would be considered quality wins over very good competition!

1. Mayweather 2. Wright 3. Morales

I was speaking of the statement you made between him and Morales ah,well i dont like winky.But really,im not saying Morales should be ranked #1 p4p,but if you conceivably have him up there as a contender for it(tho i know you said he wasnt your personal pick) who has accomplished FAR more than winky,then i dont get why Wink should be a logical option for that spot when for you,Morales isnt,is what i was getting at. Twinky will lose when he faces good competition,i realise where he deserves to be ranked but that just because he hasnt lost in a while.

I dont like winky. But im saying, SURE AS HELL not #1,i dont care where he's ranked after that tho,2 or 3,wtvr,he dosent deserve that #1 spot AT ALL. I was speaking of the statement you made between him and Morales

How can you say that when mostly everyone had Winky at 2 or 3 before this fight. I dont like winky. But im saying, SURE AS HELL not #1,i dont care where he's ranked after that tho,2 or 3,wtvr,he dosent deserve that #1 spot AT ALL.

1.Mayweather 2.Winky 3.Ricky Hatton Mayweather and Hatton are undefeated and undisputed champs of there weight class that's the most rediculous claim my brain-pan has ever processed.

"If anything Castillo deserves to be above him even thought he lost." That statement dont make no cot damn sense

1. Prety Boy 2. Winky 3/4. Baby face assassin / El Terrible I don't get how Corrales is on your list of top 3 when he got molested by Pretty Boy ... "Who do you like Floyd? Falcons or Eagles?" - Lamp "FALCONS! I LIKE MICHAEL VICK" - PBF That Floyd fight was a long time ago. Look what he did before Floyd and since. Also Floyd is the best so that doesnt hurt as much. How can MAB be on there whwn he was just molested by Pac, lost once to Morales and has been fighting alot of cupcakes and old guys. How can Morales be there when he lost to MAB twice and has been looking average in some fights includings a close win over a one arm Chaves which he couldve lost if he had two arms

1.Mayweather 2.Winky 3.Ricky Hatton Mayweather and Hatton are undefeated and undisputed champs of there weight class Lol hatton and floyd are both in 140 lb class how can they both be undisputed champs of there wieght class?

Floyd. If you dont consider Morales up there,winky sure as hell aint it. How can you say that when mostly everyone had Winky at 2 or 3 before this fight.

1. Prety Boy 2. Winky 3/4. Baby face assassin / El Terrible I don't get how Corrales is on your list of top 3 when he got molested by Pretty Boy ... "Who do you like Floyd? Falcons or Eagles?" - Lamp "FALCONS! I LIKE MICHAEL VICK" - PBF that shit right there is motherfucking gangsta!!

1. Prety Boy 2. Winky 3/4. Baby face assassin / El Terrible I don't get how Corrales is on your list of top 3 when he got molested by Pretty Boy ... "Who do you like Floyd? Falcons or Eagles?" - Lamp "FALCONS! I LIKE MICHAEL VICK" - PBF