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Taylor will be much better and more relaxed in the next fight. As well Hopkins but the outcome will be the same. And i think some people are forgeting who Hopkins really is. I here comments like he could not put away a foury year old man and he showed many flaws. Well first off he is young and still improving and secondly he fought Bernard Hopkins and he always exploits his oppenents weaknesses but he still came up short. ;)

nyahahahahahahahahaha! tis jest means what a great fighta Tayler really is. Despite his performance of beating Bernard, he still thinks he can do alot betta. And I agree. Tayler will stop Hop in the rematch. Let's do tis Jermain! But you still have Bhop quite a few spots above JT in YOUR P4P top 10.....lol

hmm Yall need to watch the tape again because at no point was it apparent or even evident that Merchant or Lampley thought Hopkins won the fight. Kellerman thought Hops perhaps should have gotten it, but he always scores for his faves by a slight margin. Had Mayweather beating Castillo in their first fight I believe.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not short-changing Taylor at all. In fact, I think he is the future of the Middleweight division, and a damned fine human being besides. He was forced by the circumstances I outlined in my previous post to take a fight he was not ready for. He fought hard and worked circles around Hopkins for the best part of 8 rounds before the strain got to him. Hopkins, for his part, tried to sit back and play games with the kid, like he was trying to psych him out by making Taylor think that he didn't have to fight to keep his belts, hoping that, combined with nerves of his first time on the big stage and having to chase him around the ring, would wear the kid out. It did. Unfortunately for Hopkins, it took 2 more rounds than he needed it to. The funniest thing to me in the whole affair is all the HBO people saying in the 9th that Hopkins needed a KO to win, then after the scorecards were read, they all acted like Hopkins was ripped off. Hilarious. I look forward to the rematch. Hopkins will be put in a position where he is forced to fight if he wants his belts back. He needs his belts back if he's going to get the 2 big money fights against Tarver and Jones. The way Hopkins has fought his last 3 fights, I have to wonder if he has it left in him to fight a solid 12 rounds. Overall, and mostly because Hopkins seemed to be sponsored by Schwinn, this fight was rather a disappointment. Naturally I wasnt disappointed at all cause I was rooting for taylor. Yeah, those nuts on HBO are that way (contradictory) and up til the very end all but Jones had taylor winning CLEARLY!! Maybe they were just as impressed with the last 3-4 rds as Jerry Roth apparently was, which is just crazy. Winning the championship rds is the thing to do and great, etc....but there are 9 other rds first, so going by the 10 pts must system and taylor having possibly won all of the first 8, theres no way Roth could have Hopkins winning..especially by that wide a margin! It honestly reminded me of Glen Hamadas score in Jones-Tarver 1, where he had Jones winning 117-111, which is rediculous! :eek: Once these guys hit 60 damn yr's old, they should be replaced or something, cause either their eyesight is very off, or their just too in love with the 'old school' to see the new!

see this kid doesnt have the heart for a champion. Sugar Ray Leonard and Roy Jones said that even if they thought there were beat you NEVER SAY you feel like you lost. I bet u if Jermain would have won easly he would still say hes not sure of himself. He tried to fight Bernard at the weigh in, you know why? He was doing the same thing as Tyson. He didnt have that passion to be champion so he tried to hype himself up. What a load of shit..... passion to be the champion? he is the champion. Taylor is nothing like Tyson or I pledge has never behaved like Tyson.

To a point I agreee...as in Hopkins didnt do much, but to say that Taylor didnt win it is short-changing him and all the hard work he did! I just dont get that! :confused: Don't get me wrong. I'm not short-changing Taylor at all. In fact, I think he is the future of the Middleweight division, and a damned fine human being besides. He was forced by the circumstances I outlined in my previous post to take a fight he was not ready for. He fought hard and worked circles around Hopkins for the best part of 8 rounds before the strain got to him. Hopkins, for his part, tried to sit back and play games with the kid, like he was trying to psych him out by making Taylor think that he didn't have to fight to keep his belts, hoping that, combined with nerves of his first time on the big stage and having to chase him around the ring, would wear the kid out. It did. Unfortunately for Hopkins, it took 2 more rounds than he needed it to. The funniest thing to me in the whole affair is all the HBO people saying in the 9th that Hopkins needed a KO to win, then after the scorecards were read, they all acted like Hopkins was ripped off. Hilarious. I look forward to the rematch. Hopkins will be put in a position where he is forced to fight if he wants his belts back. He needs his belts back if he's going to get the 2 big money fights against Tarver and Jones. The way Hopkins has fought his last 3 fights, I have to wonder if he has it left in him to fight a solid 12 rounds. Overall, and mostly because Hopkins seemed to be sponsored by Schwinn, this fight was rather a disappointment.

jUST LEAVE THE SIG UP TIL THE REMATCH BECAUSE THE BELTS WILL COME BACK TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNER. I LOOK FOR A REMATCH SIMILAR TO RJJ VS GRIFFIN 2 BUT WITH STOPPAGE ALITTLE LATER. the 'rightful' owner left sat. night with the belts. Besides, that was an inside joke between me and jose...we do that alot.

I knew, too, that this fight was a no-win situation for Taylor. If he had stomped a hole in Nard, it would have been that Nard suddenly "got old". If he lost to Nard, he would have been "nothing but hype". Personally, I would have preferred he take 2 more top tier fights before stepping in against Nard, but then Nard would have been retired and he would have fought in an eliminator and been a "paper champion". Do any of people on the "Nard Won" bandwagon think that his statements after this fight might mean that, unlike Nard, he's a nice, humble kid who might actually understand that while he won, he almost folded towards the end, which means that he still needs some tune up to be as great as champion as Nard was? That he mentioned the rematch because he knew that Nard would call for it? to show I am not singling you out, I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH THIS ENTIRE POST!!!!!! Good post, and good for you! :D

Plain, simple fact. Taylor did not "win" that fight, Hopkins lost it. You cannot spend the better part of 8 rounds on you bicycle, actually start fighting in the 9th and expect to get a decision. To a point I agreee...as in Hopkins didnt do much, but to say that Taylor didnt win it is short-changing him and all the hard work he did! He worked his ass off until he finally got winded and he looked extremely good doing it. It's just wrong to say things like that (not singling you out cause this board is FULL of stuff like that) cause for damn WEEKS all I've heard is how Hop was gonna school taylor, gonna hurt him, gonna make him look a fool, etc. He did NONE of those things, and lost a fight in the process and nobody but a few of taylors fans dare to give the boy an ounce of credit!! I just dont get that! :confused:

Jermain knew he didn't deserve to win the fight. He also fought too good to deserve the loss. B-Hop acted like he won, but also he didn't deserve to win the fight. It should have been a draw. Jermain Taylor is a very respectful person and he is a class act. Arkansas should be proud that they produced someone as classy as Jermain Taylor.

does this look like words from sumone who won or lost a fight??? "I am a bit disappointed in the way I fought. I made a lot of mistakes out there, so it's back to the drawing board to correct all the mistakes that I made. I will fix a lot of things and you'll see in the rematch what I'll do." JERMAIN TAYLOR "People are pointing out that Taylor did not act like a winner and point this out because he was talking about a rematch. Look, here in Arkansas, most people are taught to be respectful and honest. Taylor is no exception. He knows that the rematch clause is already there and is expecting the rematch, so why not talk about it. He knows that he could have done better and that is what he was pointing out about the rematch. Hopkins knows he could do better as well, but will either one do so in the rematch. That is up to the fighters, but lets also look at this. Hopkins did not fight this fight any different than he has his last few fights and he lost. On the other hand, I feel the rematch will be tougher for Hopkins than Taylor. I feel this way, because Taylor's nerves will not be a factor. He now knows he can handle the big stage, he also just won the undisputed middleweight championship by fighting what is essentially the worse fight he has fought as a professional." Taken from Boxingtalk.

Ummmhh, Jose, you gonna change that sig?? jUST LEAVE THE SIG UP TIL THE REMATCH BECAUSE THE BELTS WILL COME BACK TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNER. I LOOK FOR A REMATCH SIMILAR TO RJJ VS GRIFFIN 2 BUT WITH STOPPAGE ALITTLE LATER.

Why do you guys think that just because Hopkins will correct his mistakes that Jermain Taylor wont do the same thing. I can tsee Hopkins changing his gameplan, but I can see Jermain changing his. Starting late has always been Hopkins strategy. Taylor can still win rounds and reserve his energy.

no, Oscar is modest, Glenn Johnson is modest, Hatton is modest. Taylor looks like hes doesnt want to be a boxer Thats a bunch of bullshit, if he was a pussy, and ive known many of them in my time, he wouldnt have been in the ring in the first place. He didint let Hopkins wrestle him around, he wasnt intimidated, he went in there and held his own with a P4P great, are you in the ring? And if you are, have you ever challaneged a P4P great and held your own in the eyes of the judges? What the fuck do you know about what it takes to be a champ.

I knew, too, that this fight was a no-win situation for Taylor. If he had stomped a hole in Nard, it would have been that Nard suddenly "got old". If he lost to Nard, he would have been "nothing but hype". Personally, I would have preferred he take 2 more top tier fights before stepping in against Nard, but then Nard would have been retired and he would have fought in an eliminator and been a "paper champion". Do any of people on the "Nard Won" bandwagon think that his statements after this fight might mean that, unlike Nard, he's a nice, humble kid who might actually understand that while he won, he almost folded towards the end, which means that he still needs some tune up to be as great as champion as Nard was? That he mentioned the rematch because he knew that Nard would call for it?

Plain, simple fact. Taylor did not "win" that fight, Hopkins lost it. You cannot spend the better part of 8 rounds on you bicycle, actually start fighting in the 9th and expect to get a decision. On my card, Hopkins took 7, then 9-12. The only reason I gave him 7 was because he landed 2 right hands instead of the 1 he was landing in rounds 1-6. He did not fight like a champion. He fought like someone who was expecting to be able to wear down and KO a 26 year old kid. The only scorecard I thought was outrageous was the 116-112 card from Roth. You might be able to argue that hopkins deserved a draw, but what planet was this idiot on where he could possibly have seen Hopkins winning 8 rounds to 4 when he spent 8 rounds doing nothing but running and fouling?

nard lost plain and simple Yes he did, and benard can say that the judges dont matter (like he did) and that the public is all that matters, but who went home with the belts?? I just finished watching it and came up with 116-114 Taylor; and I was hard pressed to give that much to nard. Taylors youth and inexperience showed in the latter rd's, but hopefully that wont be such a factor in the rematch and a UD in his favor will be the end result. On a side note, the score should have been even more in favor of Taylor, if Nady had simply deducted atleast 2 of the warrented pt's for fouls..I could have understood taking atleast that many away for fighting so dirty.

No one is short changing him or graspin for straws. He's not getting his full credit because he was getting his ass stomped out the second half and barley made it to the finish. Its not like he went in there and ran shit. Taylor did not act as if he won the fight. This comment was made by Max Kellerman, Roy Jones Jr, Emanuel Steward, Bernard Hopkins and Bob Costas. so what if all those guys said it. u dont have to act if u won the fight. i mean its like saying when vargas beat joval. vargas gave himself a 3/10, does that mean he lost the fight. no fuckin way i have respect for both guys, not a die hard fan of either. but i mean, lampley, merchant thought taylor won. fightnews did as well. it was a close fight but to call it a robbery is to far stretched

nard lost plain and simple

nyahahahahahahahahaha! tis jest means what a great fighta Tayler really is. Despite his performance of beating Bernard, he still thinks he can do alot betta. And I agree. Tayler will stop Hop in the rematch. Let's do tis Jermain!