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Here's fan-made stuff that's gotten me hyped for this fight. So far it's much better than anything officially released.

I'd like to see who has better chances now, after seeing both fighters' recent performances.

I'll split this into three different categories as to why I think Pacquiao may have shot himself in the foot for taking this fight. 1) Styles Pacquiao has always had trouble with people moving. When we observe the first Bradley fight and the Shane Mosley fight, despite winning, Pacquiao showed that he had an extremely difficult time cutting off the ring. Especially in the Mosley fight, we see Pacquiao swinging and missing more often than not. His punch output and combination speed, which has been known as his strongest assets, become null when someone pulls away from him. Notice how Manny can't ever make a full impact with his punches, aside the few ones that had Mosley on his bike. 2) Age Pacquiao won the Bradley II fight, but the first 4 rounds were the absolute slowest I've ever seen Pacquiao. Pacquiao began wearing down Bradley and shutting him out after Bradley tried to engage and knock Manny out. When Bradley was pulling back and countering Pacquiao on his misses, Manny was in fits. If Algeiri can properly pull this off, because he's a good boxer-mover and Pacquiao is slowing down, it could be extremely difficult for Pacquiao to close the distance. Just watch this sparring video to understand what I'm talking about. 3) Corruption We've seen Pacquiao robbed before by Bradley. Bradley was a likeable guy with an undefeated record. Many speculated that Arum knew Manny was on his way out and wanted to create a new star. Algeiri is a good looking and likeable American who is undefeated. If it is a close fight, I wonder if it would go to the good-old Pacman or go to the newer up-coming guy. These are all speculation, but I think this'll be one hell of an interesting fight. In my opinion, given what 'could' happen, I think this is one of the most dangerous fights he could take - aside from another Marquez fight. I could be wrong and Pacquiao could wipe the floor with this guy, for all I know. INb4 Floyd Comments: I think Mayweather is also taking a similarly calculated risk with Maidana. Maidana could be all figured out and get UD'd easily or he could come out even harder and meaner than ever. Both fighters are taking potentially risky fights.

Who else does he have besides Gamboa?

What I believed earlier. Trout beat Canelo of deserved a draw due to his better punch output and activity. Malinaggi also deserved a draw or win over Broner for the same thing. Ruslan's one of my favorite fighters, but activity beat power punches tonight. I'm laughing at the people who said that Trout clearly lost, then go around and say that Algeiri clearly won.

It's not to discredit Holmes or Cotto, because in that same light, Holmes eventually became a hell of a champion in his own right - but to realize that Martinez and Ali should've never taken these fights in hindsight. It's heartbreaking to see guys like Martinez and Ali who relied so much on their athleticism have their bodies fail on them. I think it's worth acknowledging that an end of an era is coming, with a new generation taking over. It's going to hurt just as bad too when Cotto, Mayweather, and Pacquiao start hitting the same roadblocks which took down Martinez last night.

When do they come out? What do you guys think it's going to be? I didn't buy the PPV, but I definitely feel like this Floyd PPV has been the most bang-for-your-buck Mayweather fight thus far.

http://i.imgur.com/IGhQmq7.png Here's a side-by-side, if you guys want to look into the details.

He wanted the best version of Manny Pacquiao possible and fought his heart out to try to decisively win. He started showboating during the fight, but showed great sportsmanship after the fight and gave Manny and his team all the respect. I wouldn't even have been mad if Bradley won. He's a good face for boxing and I hope the guy wins something big sometime soon. Does anybody have the post-fight conference? I can't get enough of how mutually respectful Pacquiao and Bradley are. I wouldn't be surprised if they become friends after this, similar to Pacquiao - Cotto.

Do you think it's SHOTIME and Golden Boy or HBO and Top Rank who have been faring better over the last year? In terms of finances, entertainment value, compelling match ups, and fan reception - what do you think?

Who do you have winning and how?

...and to fight him instead. https://twitter.com/ChinoMaidana/status/431560204396658689 @AmirKingKhan if I'm so slow & bad then why you've hidden from me during 2 yrs and avoided a rematch? Forget about Floyd. You and me May 3rd Maidana bows down to no man.

I was just imagining, what would be ideal hypothetical situations for each fighter in the upcoming years. Floyd Mayweather - Fights Maidana for the WBA belt in May for a unification bout, while Khan (or somebody) battles Porter for the IBF belt. Mayweather picks up the IBF in September after defeating the winner of that fight, then proceeds to challenge Bradley/Pacquiao in May 2015 once their contracts with Top Rank are over. He wins and becomes the unified welterweight champion, has a farewell fight in September, and retires undefeated. Manny Pacquiao - Defeats Timothy Bradley in April to reclaim the WBO welterweight title. This causes Marquez to accept a fifth fight, in order to fulfill Juan's desire to become a five division champion. Manny avenges his KO loss to Marquez later in 2014, finishes out his contract with Top Rank, and challenges Mayweather as an independent fighter (or signs with Goldenboy). Pacquiao defeats Mayweather, with the PPV percentages possibly solving the bulk of his tax issues, then retires. Timothy Bradley - Spanks Pacquiao in a rematch anytime in 2014. Proceeds to drop Top Rank and sign with Goldenboy, defeating the bulk of 140-147 and remaining undefeated, getting a shot at Mayweather. He defeats Mayweather and becomes the only fighter to have victories over Marquez, Pacquiao, and Mayweather - becoming a first ballot Hall of Famer and potential pound for pound king. Juan Manuel Marquez - Gets a rematch with Bradley and knocks him out. Rides off into the sunset wearing a '#1 Mexican Legend' T-Shirt while mariachi music plays in the background. Anybody have any other scenarios for other fighters? Khan? Maidana? Ward? Cotto?

I'm looking for any fights where a fighter sat back and tried to box or counter Floyd Mayweather Jr., so that he was forced to go on the offensive and initiate the fight. The main reason is that I know Floyd is a great defensive fighter, but I'd like to show friends some highlights of his offensive ability and ability to engage as well. Let me know if there's any for me to look up or post 'em here. I appreciate it :boxing:

When I watched their first fight, I thought it was one hell of a match, which definitely needed a rematch. I was excited watching both of these guys and I knew they were both on their ways up. Even when Alvarado lost the first fight, I thought it was the perfect touch for him, to get him ready for the big leagues. When the second fight came around and Alvarado won, I was extremely excited for a rubber match. These two guys were building a name off of each other, giving exciting fights, and obviously learning from each other. Instead, I feel like they both were fed to the sharks. In the last month or so, we've seen Alvarado brutally finished by Provodinkov and Rios battered by Pacquiao. I like Pacquiao and Ruslan both and I'm glad they got jump starts to their careers, but I can't help but feel bad for Rios and Alvarado. These two guys are exciting young fighters who give their all to the sport and were on the rise. It felt like the jump in competition was just way too fast, almost as if TopRank was cashing out on them already. The rate they're going is not conducive for their careers and their health. I feel terrible for them because their careers are being cut that much shorter for every war they participate in. There's protected fighters bred for stardom like Canelo, then there's the Brandon Rios's and Mike Alvarado's of the world. You can't help but feel bad, because they've more heart and take more risks than a lot of fighters out there.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pk5cKSZi2UE/UpGEspVUY3I/AAAAAAAA8Es/T6TmiEhbxgk/s1600/1.gif http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-78uAsKQyDh8/UpGFXW7643I/AAAAAAAA8E0/LY14DGCl3qc/s1600/2.gif http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MQnd2uwk7GM/UpGF-_X8O6I/AAAAAAAA8FA/KSB5ApDIGdk/s1600/3.gif http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ELoQ7Y4lxLs/UpGGukZLd6I/AAAAAAAA8FI/VwulVLQBcyY/s1600/4.gif Credit goes to Reddit users who posted these up so fast.

Let's start this off with Jen Mateo. Bob's been doin' a good job contrasting Ruiz's body with the TopRank Girls'. :friday: http://www.lavishtoast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jen-mateo-lavish-toast-13.jpg http://siextramustard.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/jen-mateo-6.jpg?w=380&h=660 http://rediseno.vanguardia.com.mx/images/2013/10/20/2535341_14.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdmTVsl4o8&feature=youtu.be

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k52u37GNGsTxgD4V3dW :boxing:

Props to uploader and whoever made it.

http://i.imgur.com/BogTSaQ.jpg In an alternate universe, some lucky SOB fans are enjoying this right now.

Assuming that Pacquiao defeats Rios, would you like to see it?

I rewatched the Cotto fight and can see that Mayweather struggles more with a guy who cuts off the ring and puts the pressure on him. This was how both De La Hoya and Cotto had success. At the same time - neither of them are know to be effective pressure fighters. The only other closest thing would've been Ricky Hatton, but he's a mauler, more than a high-output fighter. This is why Floyd has been given heat for fighting these three fighters: Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, and Manny Pacquiao. They all have one thing in common - high punch output and pressure. Everyone Floyd has fought that I can remember have been boxer-punchers or boxers. There hasn't been someone who tried to go to war with him since Cotto and De La Hoya - the same two who have seen the most success against Mayweather. Feel free to point my observation wrong.

Thoughts? I think if Pacquiao gets by Rios in good fashion, he'd UD Bradley.

It realistically cannot happen. GGG is a genuine middleweight. If people were complaining of 2 pounds affecting Canelo - imagine dropping an entire weight class. If Floyd moves up - he realistically cannot make the 160 weight. Unless you want to see Fat Albert in the ring with Gennedy, Floyd won't be fighting at middleweight anytime soon. He only weight 150.5 for a 152 contest. Where'll the other 9.5 pounds come from? Look at Khan, Garcia, and maybe even Pacquiao. Don't expect Martinez or Golovkin, unless you'd like to see them starve to make 154 (or any other catchweight Mayweather might request). In any case - great win by Floyd tonight.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6ydjo6KwdjJF14C4aG :boxing:

http://i.imgur.com/AjZybzA.jpg Now that puts Ortiz to shame.

Loads of talent and skill, dethrones the previous superstar, has a lack of quality opponents, and is under appreciated as a quality pound for pound boxer.