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I don't know how threadstarter thinks people took a L. No negotiations and asking for $20 mil makes it clear Pacquiao didn't want the fight. :lol1: What do you mean do you know how many comments I read of people saying Pacqiuao is ducking TC. If you weren't one of them it doesn't apply to you.... If you are then it does.

wasn't there a thread where crawford said that he and his team never called manny and that mannay deserves to fight whomever he wants? yessir it was my thread, apparently he just called him out tonight.

I honestly believe he should, then Horn receives about 2 to 3 million. You would have to be a ****in fool to believe Manny isn't worth a 20 million guarantee. I agree with this.

His nickname is certainly appropriate, but I just hope he does'nt go the same route as so many other outstanding Japanese boxers, and just camp out in Japan. Naoya Inoue takeover!!!

With Jermall and Canelo leaving, 154 is not really deep anymore. He wont probably fight Lara, because his brother is trained by the same trainer. So that leaves Andrade and Hurd for him. Or he picks an easier fight against the next tier of opponents: Trout, Sulecki, Soro, Culcay or Williams. Im not familiar with the prospects, only know Lubinson, he could be a good foe in the future. Jermall should fight Monroe Jr., Lee or Lemieux next and then go for Alvarez, Saunders, Golovkin. Or he could go for the wba regular route (smh) and fight the winner of Murata/NDam I agree a fight with Monroe Jr. would be solid!

You should be a boxing promoter. That's always boxing promoter logic. Fight the least challenging to most challenging guy so we get the top 2 guys fighting 18 months or later from now instead of in 3-4 months. I'm bored with that make the most money logic in boxing. Give me the top two guys in every division right now. And keep giving me that. I understand what you mean about the time frame, **** would take way too long. However, Lara is beating dat ass @ Charlo's current level. Also for him to beat Lara that 18 months of experience leading to a Charlo-Lara fight is what it will take for Charlo to win.

Hurd or Lubin for Jermell, N'dam or Lemieux for Jermall I 100% agree David Lemuiex for Jermall would be a great test in the middleweight division. They need to make that happen.

Damnnn you really think so? You still got guys for Jermell in; Andrade , Erikson Lubin, Jarred hurd, and Erislandy Lara! Plus his brother Jermall has more of the body frame for middleweight.

154lb Charlo should fight other title holders. Idk if him & Lara are cool or not, but that'd be the ideal guy to be #1 in the division right now unless they got some not fight each other bs going on still. Don't hate Hurd since he has a belt now, but I think I'd prefer Andrade vs Charlo if Lara isn't possible. Outside of the title holders I don't have much of a preference who he fights as I believe this is one of the very competitive & interesting divisions at the title holder level. I'm actually rooting on this being one of the divisions the WBSS choses for its tournament. 160lb Charlo probably is going to aim for a feeler/bs kinda opponent for his first toe dip into 160 I'd be willing to bet. Peter Quillin wouldn't be a bad first opponent if he's looking for a higher profile name (edit & seeing Monroe mentioned & I'd agree he makes a lot of sense for a more notable first 160lb opponent). Then Jacobs & if he wins there he's on the GGG or Canelo table. I think for 154lb Charlo Erislandy Lara should be his last title fight & here's why. Lara will outclass him. He has to face Andrade being his biggest test before Lara. (being that boo boo has a similar slick style to Lara) So it should go for me, 1. Jarred Hurd 2. Andrade 3. Lara

Jermall is fighting Hieland...the winner gets a shot at GGG. Ah that's right!

Broner pulls off the upset & wins the unanimous decision. :boxing:

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I cant wait to see Naoya get some solid international exposure then the world will see. Off topic: I know Arum is all hyped about his new Japanese middleweight fighter; Miura. so that's getting a lot of exposure. :boxing: #TeikenPromotions

has he knocked out andre dirrell with an illegal punch yet? that seems to be on everybody's resume these days. Andre Dirrell I'm gonna say it like this he knows he's taken too much damage in his career already, if he can win by DQ he's gonna take it lol. As far as Badou and Dirrell fighting it wont happen. Badou Jack beat Andre Dirrell's brother; Anthony Dirrell. He is moving up to light heavyweight and wants to fight the best in that division. :boxing:

He is one of the best inside-fighters in the sport. One of the best body punchers too. He's a very fundamentally solid, a kinda less athletic version of Peterson. I'd like to see him get straight into the mix at 175, put him in there with somebody like Chilemba or Alvarez, followed by Stevenson at the end of the year. Ooooo a Badou Jack v Chilemba fight would be awesome.

Why aren't there more global japanese fighters?

Shadow of his former self?? People It's ****ing Pacqiuao the goat, he still got miles in the tank, & wiser. Listen. He's fighting Jeff Horn as something to keep him sharp before going on and fighting one of the champions, Crawford, Spence, and (most likely) Thurman.

I think Berchelt could make Miura question that as well. Wasn't there a rematch clause with Vargas what happened there? There was a rematch clause I heard with Vargas, but he was in way too many wars in a short span of time, I think it was postponed. :boxing:

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I think Berchelt might have his number on this one. He has fewer miles on him and Miura had a very impressive knockout war last fight but it was more like a double edged sword. I agree the way Miura fights is definitely a double edged sword.. How many wars does he have left in him?

Beterbiev?? Did you mean Usyk, because he's supposedly moving up. I heard that mentioned too not very familiar with him though.

Kyotaro. Number 13 one the WBO's top 15 HWs in the world. I know he's not very good, and he's no chance in hell against guys like Wilder, Joshua, Fury, and Parker, but I've been watching this dude since he was in K-1. Back when Dream was around and K-1 was doing cross promotion stuff. Alistair was fighting Aerts was fighting, Remy ****ing Bonjasky was still active and good. Fujimoto surprised and impressed me. Ever since then I've followed his career as closely as an english speaker can. He's got that real hardcore heart and stoicism the world loves about Japan, and sometimes it get him through some really tough jams. Cool thread. I'll look him up sometime.

Outside the contractual issue I think if Klitschko wants the rematch he for sure deserves a rematch. Personally I hope he retires cuz this would be a extremely solid effort to end your career on. So what I'm hoping for is more of a keep busy fight for Joshua next time out. This is one of those few times I'll actually say a guy deserves some random mandatory fight or voluntary or whatever. I'm rooting on Wilder vs Parker later this year & maybe we can have one champ by the end of the year or early next year. And then around that point hopefully Fury will have his sh^t together & whoever is The Champion can fight Fury at that point. Probably too much to hope for, but that's what I'd like to see. I think it can happen.

As people have already said, they make pretty good money fighting in Japan and also if they are very good such as Inoue, then they become high risk-low reward everywhere else because a lot of them are unknown. As good as Inoue is, basically nobody outside of people that visits forums like this know who he is. I was thinking about him earlier because Yafai is fighting Suguru Muranaka here in the UK next week and i was thinking Yafai v Inoue would be good but why would Hearn bring him over to fight and probably beat his champ when nobody knows him? Wish a extremely more profitable global business model would be adopted in boxing.

Not only was the fight great, both fighters made it about the fans. Doesn't get classier then that.

I was talking to techliam about Japanese boxing not long ago and he said it has died out somewhat over there. That's no good they have some serious talent over there.

Or Ortiz, forgot about him. I'd like to see that also. Totally forgot about Ortiz! how do you think Ortiz vs Joshua will go?

Japan has a big market for Boxing and its fighters make plenty of money on their land. Unlike other foreign fighters, japanese fighters arent eager to come to America for this reason. Naoya is a beast!!! I feel like where boxing is headed we might be seeing the best fighting the best world wide. Maybe im being to optomistic.

What's next for klitchsko?

Ortiz might get Joshua if they fought next. Joshua is still green which makes what he has done so far pretty impressive. Ortiz is a legit threat but he is on the old side. It's a toss up really Joseph Parker should fight Wilder Unify belts, Anthony Joshua takes tyson fury, Wilder vs Joshua, Winner vs Ortiz? Who do you think should fight.