Is Pacquiao still a top WW?

Pacquiao is still incredibly quick and has the most experience out of all the welterweights at the moment. That should not be disregarded. I think this is why Spence still sees Pacquiao as one of the toughest match ups at 147. That said at this stage in his career I don't think he beats Spence because of the size difference they would have in both height and weight coupled with Spence's skill set. I tend to agree with what Tim Bradley said when speaking on how Pacquiao matches up against both Thurman and Garcia. Basically being that Pacquiao punches a lot quicker and straighter than both of them and that he would likely out point them by beating them to the punch everytime. Not to say that they don't have a chance against an aging Pacquiao that is nearing 40.

No he's not black enough

Floyd at 38 had no obligations to fight the new young fighters man...Manny isnt even fighting any of the other champs and he is still active in 2017 Floyd is fighting a MMA fighter lol. Manny is fighting garbage so is Floyd... Horn... Mcgregor... Sane sh#t

Errol Spence says so.

why wont he fight any of the other champs? He is waiting to cash out. They will pay him a king's ransom to fight Thurman or Crawford. Also he don't want to lose thinking there is still a chance to fight Floyd

In the top 3 in any order why wont he fight any of the other champs?

Yes brook only beat one good ww, but one of the main players at ww. So brook was one of the best ww that Floyd needed to beat there's no escaping that fact. The fact that you are even trying makes Floyd look bad. If GGG can fight brook Floyd certainly should of. Do you think brook would be fighting GGG if he could have fought floyd Instead? Floydv was still active so why fight berto. Instead of one if the main players? Dont say Floyd paiud his dues Floyd at 38 had no obligations to fight the new young fighters man...Manny isnt even fighting any of the other champs and he is still active in 2017

In the top 3 in any order

Floyd had to be brave to fight an unproven Brook??? really who had he even beaten by 2015?? Shawn fvcking Porter?? stop it dude you are reaching hard..floyd beat all the top ww's of his time and era...and retired...Now Manny needs to fight the young champs since he is still a active champion Yes brook only beat one good ww, but one of the main players at ww. So brook was one of the best ww that Floyd needed to beat there's no escaping that fact. The fact that you are even trying makes Floyd look bad. If GGG can fight brook Floyd certainly should of. Do you think brook would be fighting GGG if he could have fought floyd Instead? Floydv was still active so why fight berto. Instead of one if the main players? Dont say Floyd paiud his dues

Thurman Spence Pacquiao Brook Porter Garcia Vargas Peterson Matthysse Collazo? Pac is still a top 3 WW and would still beat most fighters on this list imo. idk if collazo should be in the top 10 but i cant think of anyone else to include. bradley and khan havent fought in over a year and dont have anything lined up anytime soon so i didnt include them. otherwise they'd be top 10 as well

But brook was brave to fight GGG. Why wasn't Floyd brave enough to fight brook let alone GGG.? People aren't shocked brook would fight GGG. It was more a case of good on ya son go show them you want to fight the best! If Floyd agreed to fight GGG I think some with dodgy hearts might get shoicked real bad. In fact Floyd better not agree to fight GGG as it might be too shocking for some. Floyd was too scared to fight the toip 4 ww's. Let alone a middleweight Floyd had to be brave to fight an unproven Brook??? really who had he even beaten by 2015?? Shawn fvcking Porter?? stop it dude you are reaching hard..floyd beat all the top ww's of his time and era...and retired...Now Manny needs to fight the young champs since he is still a active champion

no it wasnt..it was a huge cherry pick..stop it But brook was brave to fight GGG. Why wasn't Floyd brave enough to fight brook let alone GGG.? People aren't shocked brook would fight GGG. It was more a case of good on ya son go show them you want to fight the best! If Floyd agreed to fight GGG I think some with dodgy hearts might get shoicked real bad. In fact Floyd better not agree to fight GGG as it might be too shocking for some. Floyd was too scared to fight the toip 4 ww's. Let alone a middleweight

Of course, he may not be the fighter he used to be, but put him against the top welterweights and he will still beat most and be competitive against those that can beat this version of him.

But Thurmond and brook are tougher fights than maidana and Bertolucci. Floyd needs to fight the guys who want his place as the best ww. Brook was seen as a interesting fight for ggg even. So I don't see why he wouldn't be for floyd? Floyd was one of the best ww not prepared to fight the other guys vying for top ww status. If you can't understand me I'm not explaining it properly obviously and there's nothing wrong with your comprehension skills. Floyd was arguably the best ww with a question mark next to it! That question mark could have been removed if he'd have beaten brook and Thurmon. Everyone wanted flood. Being a top 3 ww isn't too bad. Does floyd have to be the absolute best, no arguments close the casket every time? no it wasnt..it was a huge cherry pick..stop it

yoy are completely unfit to score a boxing match. Just like most of the vegas judges.

Brook was laughed at as a mandatory fighting nobody and Thurman was still unproven..They are not even from Floyds generation But Thurmond and brook are tougher fights than maidana and Bertolucci. Floyd needs to fight the guys who want his place as the best ww. Brook was seen as a interesting fight for ggg even. So I don't see why he wouldn't be for floyd? Floyd was one of the best ww not prepared to fight the other guys vying for top ww status. If you can't understand me I'm not explaining it properly obviously and there's nothing wrong with your comprehension skills. Floyd was arguably the best ww with a question mark next to it! That question mark could have been removed if he'd have beaten brook and Thurmon. Everyone wanted flood. Being a top 3 ww isn't too bad. Does floyd have to be the absolute best, no arguments close the casket every time?

Im sure Floyd has got a better resume than Brook and Thurman and historically will go down greater. But youve still got to fight the toughest oppoents to be the best. Beating Ortiz,, Guerrero, Maidana and Berto dont make you the best when the toughest oppoents are considered thurman and Brook at WW. That makes Floyd one the very best at WW same as Pac. But Pac aint the best WW withoiut beating those guys so why is Floyd? Brook was laughed at as a mandatory fighting nobody and Thurman was still unproven..They are not even from Floyds generation

You are a big Floyd fan arent you? Really big. You wont have a bad word said about him will you? Instead of saying i talk utter rubbish can you educate me with your wisdom what exactly is it i said that is not right? Did he fight all the WW to prove hes the best? Did he fight Brook? Did he fight Thurman? Did he rematch Pac even with controversial shoulder gate.dude he was a 2 time lineal ww champion and won all of his titles in the rings..He literally held every title there was at 147 WBC-2 TIMES WBO IBF WBA IBO IBA RING-2 TIMES So stop it Floyd did everything at 147 and was clearly the best

Pac almost shot is still levels above someone like Vargas but if you have followed the Pacmans career you could see he was visibly slower with hand and foot, his feints were A LOT slower and he wasn't throwing punches the way he did in 2011 for example. You have no idea who you are talking to as I've seen every Pacquiao fight live since like 2004 and went back and watched every meaningful fight before that. Trust me, you don't know more about Pacquiao or his style than I do. His style changed after getting knocked out by Marquez but he's nowhere near close to being shot. As far as his reflexes go, every fighter loses snap and it's no different for Manny but his feet and hand speed are still elite, even if they are not what they used to be.

Close to shot? I just don't see it. He took a top 6-7 WW in Vargas and totally dominated every round. Bradley almost lost to the guy. Almost shot is not at all accurate. Pac almost shot is still levels above someone like Vargas but if you have followed the Pacmans career you could see he was visibly slower with hand and foot, his feints were A LOT slower and he wasn't throwing punches the way he did in 2011 for example.