but then you shiiet on him for fighting guys like horn. lol. you're telling him to avoid tough competition at this point but then turns around and shiiet on him for doing what you hope he would.
You're full of shyt.
Where have I done that? I've hardly said anything about the Horn fight. I have to be honest in that I think it's a low quality fight (which is why I'm not talking about it, though I was into the Vargas fight) but I haven't bashed Pac for Horn. Ever.
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If you have to make shyt up, it means you're WRONG.
What's Mayweather got to do with the topic of this thread? You're butthurt that Pacquiao ducked Crawford so are mentioning Mayweather to try and deflect. :lol1:
I'm just trying to understand the bad you see in others, but not when it comes to your idol.
So how much do you think Floyd would want for a Crawford fight?
Freddy Roach is on record saying he thinks it's a bad match up for Pacquiao that he doesn't want. So you're actually correct lol
At one time I would have favored Pacquiao. But not at his age now. I think old legends who have already proven their abilities should not be criticized when they become selective with their opponents.
Yea, that's correct and I'm glad Freddy spoke up about that. As you say, it would have been a great fight at one point and I would have picked Pac in his prime. I wish Pac would retire but if he wants to stay around, I really hope he avoids crazy shyt like this. I really like the guy and don't want to see him plastered on the canvas again.
Arum isn't going to lose millions to pay for Crawford to beat Pacquiao. :lol1:
Pacquiao took a $4 mil guarantee for Vargas but wanted $20 mil for Crawford. Pacquiao clean priced himself out.
How much do you think the best ever would demand for a Crawford fight? I believe Floyd would duck the young prime Terence.
Arum isn't going to lose millions to pay for Crawford to beat Pacquiao. :lol1:
Pacquiao took a $4 mil guarantee for Vargas but wanted $20 mil for Crawford. Pacquiao clean priced himself out.
Floyd should have fought Thurman, instead of Berto, whom he got his $30 mil guarantee from. You don't call yourself the best ever and fight Berto. He's now cherrypicking McConor.
decent, no. but i thought TC is more than just "decent"? at least that's what im getting on here. if pac continue to fight lesser name opponent such as horn and loses then yes this will hurt his legacy. but if TC is suppose to be the next best thing then how can it hurt manny's legacy? if anything, it'll prolly boost it up even more if TC is really the real deal.
The same way losing to Mayweather hurt his legacy and cemented him firmly as #2 of his era (whereas one could previously debate that he was #1).
Checkmate.
I've never said Pac was ducking him, but I have said it would be incredibly stupid for him to fight Bud. Becoming lion food is no way for a legend to go out.
Freddy Roach is on record saying he thinks it's a bad match up for Pacquiao that he doesn't want. So you're actually correct lol
At one time I would have favored Pacquiao. But not at his age now. I think old legends who have already proven their abilities should not be criticized when they become selective with their opponents.
Terence ain't ready for the superstar. That's how uncle Bob saw it. Otherwise, Arum would have passed the torch to his future cash cow long time ago. The Philippino guy simply has no ability to say no to Bob, who would give him ultimatums, deadlines, he might even sue the senator. Come on mates.
how so? i thought TC is the truth?
So, you expect Pac to be smashed by anyone decent then? No matter how good Crawford is, Pac is one of the two greats of the last 10 years. Any losses hurt.
FFS guy, I don't mind you debating or disagreeing but put a little thought into your replies or I'm not going to bother reading them anymore.
I honestly believe he should, then Horn receives about 2 to 3 million. You would have to be a ****in fool to believe Manny isn't worth a 20 million guarantee.
I agree with this.
Pac is getting 20 million to fight Horn?
I honestly believe he should, then Horn receives about 2 to 3 million. You would have to be a ****in fool to believe Manny isn't worth a 20 million guarantee.
Pacquiao has a 20 million guarsntee in his contrwct with top rank. He was just asking money thay he ALWAYS got in the last eight years. He isnt pricing himself out just asking for thw money that he has on the contract.
Pac is getting 20 million to fight Horn?
Tainted how? They fought past their expiration date. Everyone knows that but it doesnt taint their legacy at all.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not pretending that's your opinion just to argue a point. But, even if you're being 100% honest in how you see it, you're not in touch with how the fans/public see things so there's no point in arguing this.
Being smashed by Crawford damages Pac's legacy.
Thats how its always been though. The passing of the torch. What if oscar never passed it to floyd or pacquiao? Leonard to camacho? Or chavez sr to oscar?
"How it's always been" does not mean it's a good thing or that every boxer does it. Oscar and Ray tainted their legacies big-time by hanging around too long. Not to mention Ali, Roy, and many others.
if you want Pac to get mulched, great. I don't want to see him go out like that.
I don't know how threadstarter thinks people took a L. No negotiations and asking for $20 mil makes it clear Pacquiao didn't want the fight. :lol1:
What do you mean do you know how many comments I read of people saying Pacqiuao is ducking TC. If you weren't one of them it doesn't apply to you.... If you are then it does.
I've never said Pac was ducking him, but I have said it would be incredibly stupid for him to fight Bud. Becoming lion food is no way for a legend to go out.