Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

[Rusty Tromboni]

LOL, people are putting Usyk in Ali's class after the Witherspoon performance. You have to be kidding me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFr0JCqxb4

What next? Usyk could **** with prime Frazier.

Quarry had an underrated punch - Clancy called him the best PUNCHER he ever worked with. But I doubt he had Usyk's power and strength. He was a good bit smaller.

Hell, in the rematch, feather-fisted Ali might've ended it in the second round if Perez hadn't made a rookie mistake.


Usyk probably would exploit Frazier's habit of starting slow. It's not gonna be a Foreman style beat down, but Frazier doesn't fight himself back into a fight with Usyk.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Incorrect, he boiled down to cruiserweight. Usyk was a big cruiserweight. Young George would be a cruiserweight nowadays. Also his pressure was sloppy and his output would've been nullified by Usyk's extremely sharp countering ability and cutting of angles. His guard is also ridiculously good. He has better defence than anyone George faced ever. Usyk would embarrass George and punish his incredible sloppiness ala Murat Gassiev who I'd liken to Foreman being the same size and with similar power and output. Except Gassiev is even faster than him and has a better tank.

What sport did you play in College?

You seem extremely ignorant of human physiology.

Foreman is naturally much more robust than Usyk.

Usyk doesn't fight like a Pep or Whitaker. He gets tagged and bullied by men weaker and less explosive than Foreman.

Usyk is an ATG. P4P he's lightyears better than Foreman. But George is too athletic and rugged for Usyk.

Maybe i'll change my tune in a few years.

[kafkod]

Yup.


But even the point that illustrates goes over your head.

Revisit Queenie's post.

Uncle **** dehydrated Foreman. Ali also talks about getting lean.

Those dudes are monsters. Look at their frames. It's insane to think they scaled in at 215.

You clearly never played football or wrestled at any meaningful level if you think added muscle mass doesn't compromise stamina. Foreman and Ali had output in the 15 Round era.

Uncle **** also spiked Foreman's water with a performance impairing drug before the rumble in the jungle, if you believe George's account.

Whatever, Usyk is the same height, with the same reach as Ali, and before his last fight he tipped the scales at exactly the same weight as Ali did before his fight with Foreman.

Now, unless lbs were heavier and inches were longer in the 1970's than they are today, that would make Ali and Usyk the same size.

[joseph5620]

There was this misconception that Ali beat George purely by skill, when in reality, Ali was one of the few fighters that matched Foreman by size and was bot easily bullied by Foreman's crazy strength. Young Foreman always had trouble fighting guys close to his size Ali, Ron Lyle etc.

No he didn't. He knocked Ken Norton out in 2 rounds.

[kafkod]

I see usyk as good but he gets hit a lot more than I imagined when I heard about his skills he gets tagged quite a bit which I’m not a fan of and with foreman’s power which was the strongest Holyfield had been hit with (who fought with Bowe 6’5 230lbs+, valuev 7 270lbs+, and mike Tyson 200lbs) I don’t see the issue with him connecting with strong power shots that’ll seal the deal with usyk

And to people saying he’s not that much bigger than usyk id say he wasn’t much bigger than Ali yet Ali couldn’t hurt joe Frazier nearly as much as foreman could. My point being size isn’t the teller it’s about style, technique, and genetics which foreman had all put into power

Holyfield beat Foreman, and he was smaller than Usyk!

[kidbazooka]

What sport did you play in College?

You seem extremely ignorant of human physiology.

Foreman is naturally much more robust than Usyk.

Usyk doesn't fight like a Pep or Whitaker. He gets tagged and bullied by men weaker and less explosive than Foreman.

Usyk is an ATG. P4P he's lightyears better than Foreman. But George is too athletic and rugged for Usyk.

Maybe i'll change my tune in a few years.

Usyk ATG wtf?????

Are these the standards we’re using now smh dude just getting started he hasn’t even done anything to be considered great he’s a good fighter like the many around today not no fucckin “ATG”

[FinitoxDinamita]

Naw he’d get ktfo like Moorer

[SN!PER]

Halloween night on BoxingScene, Usyk knocks out Chisora and the hype train begins!

[joseph5620]

Ken Norton was NOT a big heavyweight. He was literally just shy of 200 lbs when he fought as a heavyweight. George Foreman outweighed him by 20lbs.

That's a flat out lie. Norton weighed 212 when fought Foreman. Foreman weighed 224. Both were listed at 6-3. No huge size advantage for Foreman in that fight. You can look for yourself.








Norton 222 against Bobick









217 against Ali in the third fight. He was not and never was a small heavyweight at that time.

[joseph5620]

That is still a 12 pound disadvantage against Foreman whose 220-225 or bigger. Not only that, Norton's body frame is far smaller compared to Ali and Ron Lyle, while Ali and Lyle weighed in far bigger than Norton.

First you said it was a 20 pound difference and Norton did not have a small body frame compared to Ali. 12 pounds is not a huge difference in the heavyweight division. You're just making things up now.


Clearly there was not a significant size difference between Ali and Norton.

Ali 221 Norton 217 Both 6-3