Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #81
    Originally posted by Get em up
    It's an insult to George for sure. I mean Isyk is a talented guy and he took cruiserweight by storm but he damn sure isn't Evander Holyfield IMO. He went 7 rounds with Witherspoon for Gods sake in his heavyweight debut. I wont totally disagree with your thought on Dubois either. Usyk is more than capable of being hit and the difference in heavyweight and cruiserweight is massive as far as punching power goes otherwise we wouldnt have a cruiserweight division.
    Wrong

    Povetkin is one of the biggest punchers at heavyweight yet Marco Huck went toe to toe warfare slugfest with him and ran him pretty close

    Michael Hunter also went to war with Povetkin and got robbed, he also beat the hyped super heavyweight bakole and ko'd super heavyweight Ustinov

    Bredis went up to heavyweight and almost killed Manuel Charr just for a laugh.

    These current cruiserweights are really heavyweights, they all walk around at 220 which is bigger than the guys from the Ali era

    Holyfield was really a 190lb guy who took steroids and lifted weights every day of the week to get himself up to 210+

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    • Noelanthony
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      #82
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
      Wrong

      Povetkin is one of the biggest punchers at heavyweight yet Marco Huck went toe to toe warfare slugfest with him and ran him pretty close

      Michael Hunter also went to war with Povetkin and got robbed, he also beat the hyped super heavyweight bakole and ko'd super heavyweight Ustinov

      Bredis went up to heavyweight and almost killed Manuel Charr just for a laugh.

      These current cruiserweights are really heavyweights, they all walk around at 220 which is bigger than the guys from the Ali era

      Holyfield was really a 190lb guy who took steroids and lifted weights every day of the week to get himself up to 210+
      By the same token David Haye went up to heavyweight and mixed it with a few heavyweights, Klitschko comes to mind. Heavyweights both in sparring and fights never even dropped him yet he was stopped by the likes of Carl Thompson and Bellew. Marco Huck has been stopped by lesser fighters than Povetkin.

      I remember the cruiser weight putting Fury on his arse. Yes the current crop of Cruiseweights are bigger but I don’t think as durable. I think usyk being elusive is one of his greatest strengths because I’ve seen him get hit and for me he doesn’t welcome getting touched like a Joe Joyce. To be fair let me see how he handles Chisora which I expect if he wants to have any success with the current heavyweights he should pass that task with flying colours

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      • BoloShot
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        #83
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -My PhD in Intuitive Phrenology that allows me cut thru any IQ smokescreen.

        U in 3rd grade remote pharmacology now?
        Hahahahahahahahaha phrenology is a pseudoscience you nutter. You can't have a PhD in that. Just pure bs. Also no, what the hell is 3rd grade remote pharmacology? That's made up, never heard of such a thing. I can't believe you're anything other than a troll at this point. Or immensely ****** with a ton of unearned confidence.
        Last edited by BoloShot; 10-06-2020, 02:37 PM.

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          #84
          lol foreman sparks him out.

          also lol at picking foremans worse fight with jimmy young when he wasnt in it mentally anymore but assuming we have peak Usyk and ignoring he has looked mediocre in his only fight at heavyweight against a 38 year old shot C level fighter, then saying oh well Usyk did good against some cruiserweights so thats almost like a prime george foreman because they would weigh the same on fight night. just lol

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          • Mister Wolf
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            #85
            Usyk gets what Frazier got.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #86
              Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
              Styles make fights.

              Frazier was a decent cruiserweight I'd have him top 5 if he was around in Bellew era, Bellew is just top 10
              - -Do Hickey been malfunctioning of late is it?

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                #87
                Originally posted by BoloShot
                Dude prime Foreman was 215-220lbs in weight which is the same as Usyk.
                Also I'm in college currently and I box for my college, I don't "play" any sport. Also I'm studying pharmacology so knowing human physiology is central to my studies so poor choice of words. Foreman was big relative to his time. He'd be a small heavyweight nowadays.
                So you're not an athlete.
                Cool. Now it all makes sense.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony
                  I’m actually insulted by what I am reading. Usyk is good don’t get me wrong but on what’s I’ve seen I don’t even thinks he beats Dubois talk less of Foreman
                  Usyk is a legend in the making. Foreman is legendary for flopping when confronted with resistance.

                  Usyk definitely wouldn't have been stopped in 8 in Zaire. In fact, it's difficult seeing Ali's hand raised at the end of that one.

                  Ron Lyle of all people took Foreman to the limit. It's not crazy comparing Usyk with Foreman. It's simply that those picking Usyk minimize the actual size disparity and exagerate Usyk's defensive ability. Not a terrible miscalculation.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by creekrat77
                    Didn't Usyk getting his @ss kicked in the amateurs by Shawn Porter?
                    He not legend like that.
                    Ray Robinson lost to the younger, less experienced Billy Graham. And stopped competing against Lightweights as a consequence. He actually opted, instead, to fight little Willie Pep.


                    I guess Robinson ain't a legend then.

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                      Usyk is a legend in the making. Foreman is legendary for flopping when confronted with resistance.

                      Usyk definitely wouldn't have been stopped in 8 in Zaire. In fact, it's difficult seeing Ali's hand raised at the end of that one.

                      Ron Lyle of all people took Foreman to the limit. It's not crazy comparing Usyk with Foreman. It's simply that those picking Usyk minimize the actual size disparity and exagerate Usyk's defensive ability. Not a terrible miscalculation.
                      The operative term here is ‘ legend in making’ you can’t compare a legend to a legend in the making. Especially when this so called legend in the making has not fought anyone at heavyweight. Then you go on to say you can’t envision Ali’s hand being raised. You must be usyk’s fellow countryman or his babymother/mistress or wife.

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