Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

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  • Nobody+1
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    #41
    I see usyk as good but he gets hit a lot more than I imagined when I heard about his skills he gets tagged quite a bit which I’m not a fan of and with foreman’s power which was the strongest Holyfield had been hit with (who fought with Bowe 6’5 230lbs+, valuev 7 270lbs+, and mike Tyson 200lbs) I don’t see the issue with him connecting with strong power shots that’ll seal the deal with usyk

    And to people saying he’s not that much bigger than usyk id say he wasn’t much bigger than Ali yet Ali couldn’t hurt joe Frazier nearly as much as foreman could. My point being size isn’t the teller it’s about style, technique, and genetics which foreman had all put into power

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    • MartialMind
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      #42
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      There is a size difference, THERE are plenty of ectomorphs who attend gyms and pump themselves over 200 pounds.

      George Foreman like most of the heavyweights from the 60's-70's, did not approach the sport of boxing with the goal of? Body building in their training camps etc

      George Forman has a bigger frame than Usyk, and his muscle mass is more original 'He is a bigger man than Usyk'.

      Uysk gets it by all the fighters he faces, his speed is nothing special 'He is just a well rounded solid fighter, he has no defining great attribute'.
      Exactly it's silly to act like Usyk was the same size as Young George Foreman.


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      • Earl-Hickey
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        #43
        Originally posted by MartialMind
        Exactly it's silly to act like Usyk was the same size as Young George Foreman.


        Usyk may actually be naturally a bigger man, we can see here at the same weight, Usyk is trim and lean, Foreman looks like he's pumped up and been wrinsing the weights.

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        • SN!PER
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          #44
          If Foreman grew up in today's heavyweight era they'd call him Lil George.

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            #45
            Originally posted by SN!PER
            If Foreman grew up in today's heavyweight era they'd call him Lil George.
            He'd also be called undisputed

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            • Rusty Tromboni
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              #46
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Are you seriously trying to prove your point by comparing Foreman in his first title reign, which ended when he lost to Ali in his mid twenties, to Foreman in his second title reign, which began when he KO'd Michael Moorer at the age of 45? Seriously?
              Yup.


              But even the point that illustrates goes over your head.

              Revisit Queenie's post.

              Uncle **** dehydrated Foreman. Ali also talks about getting lean.

              Those dudes are monsters. Look at their frames. It's insane to think they scaled in at 215.

              You clearly never played football or wrestled at any meaningful level if you think added muscle mass doesn't compromise stamina. Foreman and Ali had output in the 15 Round era.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #47
                Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                Usyk may actually be naturally a bigger man, we can see here at the same weight, Usyk is trim and lean, Foreman looks like he's pumped up and been wrinsing the weights.
                - -Why U mama wrinse all U brains in the wash?

                Mean?

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SN!PER
                  If Foreman grew up in today's heavyweight era they'd call him Lil George.
                  - -Why they call U li'l poopsy?

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Usyk doesn't train with power lifters and Olympic weight lifters in order to bulk himself up for HW. He trains with weights to increase his strength and explosive power. Check out this video. Turn on the sub-titles and hear what he says to his weightlifter training partner. That he hasn't gained any weight. His weight is the same as in the off-season and he isn't trying to alter it, just turn it into "another quality"


                    Dude, what sport did you play in college? High School?

                    Being explosive means using a lot of energy at once.

                    Look at long distance runners and sprinters. Both SHOULD be lifting weights. Then look at swimmers, who almost never do. Do you see different body types? Do you think there's any connection to the different demands of their respective competition?

                    Billy Conn weighed 167 pounds for his fight with Louis. Take a look at Callum Smith, Saunders, and Charlo. You think those guys are all the same size as Conn?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      There was this misconception that Ali beat George purely by skill, when in reality, Ali was one of the few fighters that matched Foreman by size and was bot easily bullied by Foreman's crazy strength. Young Foreman always had trouble fighting guys close to his size Ali, Ron Lyle etc.
                      Very true. Ali beat Foreman in the center of the ring. But he realized it was unnecessary to stay there.

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