Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

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    #151
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Foreman would be at a major disadvantage, giving Usyk time to calculate slow punching is a huge advantage to him just watch the Joyce fight and Joyce is actually a volume puncher unlike Foreman . The most likely to beat Jsyk is sharp fast combinations and this wasn’t Foreman . Usyk is just to skilled and would have the abilities to get into just the right angles to make Foreman miss by miles , he won’t stop Foreman obviously but a wide UD win is the likely out outcome .

    Foreman would slow down and Usyk would just tag him up as the fight goes longer .
    Why wouldn't Usyk stop george if he is way faster and a picker george defense he had none and he was slow in movement

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      #152
      Interesting fight. On one hand it would be easy to see Usyk sticking and moving, almost embarrassing George on his way to a lopsided decision win. On the other hand, George never needed more than one punch. It’s not too hard to imagine George landing that punch and winning by KO in a fight that Usyk is up big on the cards.

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        #153
        Originally posted by kafkod

        Er .. what question is that?
        Figure it out. It’s no secret.

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          #154
          Originally posted by just the facts
          Interesting fight. On one hand it would be easy to see Usyk sticking and moving, almost embarrassing George on his way to a lopsided decision win. On the other hand, George never needed more than one punch. It’s not too hard to imagine George landing that punch and winning by KO in a fight that Usyk is up big on the cards.
          Thats a lie its mutiple matches george had where he gave multiple shots to even low level let alone drop them cause his tech was trash and if you said it would be easy to see that means your right

          Why wouldn't usyk be able to stick and move when that's what he does bestdidn't jim do thst easy didnt moorer do that easy yea it was a old George but George never was fast on his feet

          George has no chance here what are you people seeing in george the man was slow and easy to read

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            #155
            Originally posted by moneytheman

            Why wouldn't Usyk stop george if he is way faster and a picker george defense he had none and he was slow in movement
            No one stopped Foreman ever in the 90”s ,this could be because he didn’t fight the biggest punchers collectively but he took near 20 straight shots from Holyfield and took a few Morrison shots ,that version of Foreman wouldn’t budge against Usyk which is the harder version to control and made better use of his punch selections . Moorer also a very big puncher southpaw unable to hurt Foreman the difference is Usyk is much smarter and listens to instructions ,he’d win rounds similar fashion with far more hectic pace and awareness .
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-18-2022, 09:01 PM.

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              #156
              Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

              Figure it out. It’s no secret.
              The answer is global warming. Everybody knows that.

              Now stop messing about and ask me the question.

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                #157
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                No one stopped Foreman ever in the 90”s ,this could be because he didn’t fight the biggest punchers collectively but he took near 20 straight shots from Holyfield and took a few Morrison shots ,that version of Foreman wouldn’t budge against Usyk which is the harder version to control and made better use of his punch selections . Moorer also a very big puncher southpaw unable to hurt Foreman the difference is Usyk is much smarter and listens to instructions ,he’d win rounds similar fashion with far more hectic pace and awareness .
                where did you see me say of anybody winning or losing find that cause thats a old george i thought this was a topic of the wasting of punches no defense young ver easy to hurt by hard shots shown by ron

                the great holy unloaded combos on george and he was hurt multiple times that match you people leave that out you also leave out how great those combos were that nobody else at the time could do on george at the time holy was that great
                Last edited by Ascended; 05-18-2022, 09:23 PM.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                  You are right about that.

                  These days you have heavyweights who pumped themselves up to heavyweight. And then you have about 80% , who claim to be super heavyweights but in reality? They are just out of condition.

                  Mike Tyson weighed 239 pounds vs Brain Nielsen, and that was Tyson out of condition. People can go and check his physique, if he would of appeared in today's division like that? People would be claiming that he is a super-heavyweight. Mike Tyson even at 239 pounds was in my opinion, had a better physique than 70% of the active heavyweights in today's division.

                  If Tyson was 239 pounds at his heaviest in ring weight, this proves what you are saying. Mike Tyson out of training camp, must of been walking around at 250 + pounds.

                  And this would probably be the same for fighters such as Foreman, Norton, Frazier, Lyle, Ali, the list goes on. These guys were a lot bigger than people perceived.

                  They where all boiling down to 210-220 pounds, trying their upmost best to get as light as possible. Because that was the training culture in boxing back then.

                  In comparison today, where fighters seem to all be part time body builders. Even Anthony Joshua has pumped himself up over 240 + pounds, he is not that weight by default.

                  Lennox Lewis & Rid**** Bowe where close to 240 + pounds by default.

                  Note: I just think this era of super heavyweights is misleading and distorted. There are super heavyweights, but then there are just fighters out of condition. Maybe they are there because the talent pool of fighters in the division has decreased.

                  Just posting weights and statistics does not tell the whole story mate.

                  kafkod
                  It tells you all you need to know. Foreman and Usyk have virtually identical physical stats and they weighed within 1lb of each other while looking equally ripped and muscular for heavyweight title fights. They are basically the same size.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    It tells you all you need to know. Foreman and Usyk have virtually identical physical stats and they weighed within 1lb of each other while looking equally ripped and muscular for heavyweight title fights. They are basically the same size.
                    One fighters pumps himself up to 215 pounds, another fighters boils down to 215-224 pounds.

                    They are not the same size. Those are the facts.

                    Foreman's musculature is clearly more dense, I also bet you his fists and bones are bigger.

                    Usyk has pumped himself up to heavyweight, he is not a solid heavyweight by default.
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-18-2022, 10:01 PM.

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                      #160
                      Nobody 'schools' prime George without going through hell first, the hell nobody in this current division is able to inflict.

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