Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

[Ascended]

I've seen these guys claim 215lb Foreman was "as big" as the klitschkos and Lennox Lewis who were all 245lb.

It's like they don't understand logic, Foreman was in the low 220s max in his prime and he was muscled up at that weight.

When he was old and fat with a gut on him he was 240s

Usyk was the weight of prime Foreman in his last fight and he still looked lean, he was certainly lower body fat than a prime Foreman and he had less muscle on his frame also.

Usyk would have to gain 10 lbs of muscle AND 10lbs of fat, and then he'd have a body that looked like a prime Foreman, at 235lbs. Again, Foreman was 210 to 220.

That means Usyk is naturally at least as big as Foreman if not bigger.

It's like human anatomy goes out the window when it comes to these old school fighters

Its cause people on here are crazy idiots who like to live in fantasy and they can't see good ether

George lost to jim and ali who lennox was better outboxers then both live with that fact oh in your mind not fact jim and ali were better in their match compared to lennox at his best ver which is the late 90s but these crazy idiots forget those matches so how is it he beats lennox george never would beat ali or jim

Jim or ali was as tough as lennox was to hard shots especially by someone as slow as george who never would land often on lennox

Most people who aren't crazy know lennox could stay at range all night and do great which ali couldn't in his 70s or could ali take as many hard shots as lennox without being stunned

Bowe great at pressure/combos and a great weight advantage that George never dealt with in 1 man when he was young

George Has no advantage over him none except power and those shots wouldn't land as much as bowe would land on him since he was way faster

George with lennox same as bowe the diff is lennox even has power over george he shown in mutiple matches he gave way less big shots to drop a person let alone stop them


This is a mismatch by george being koed from range by lennox by picked shots

And bowe combos him to a ko

Like its no reason to pick george over these men or others like fury Anthony and mutiple others george was so easy to read slow and wasted punches like a dummy

Like why is he picked its obvious he would lose to a person who can see and who is sane

[Marchegiano]

Well, that's a bit of a stylistic nightmare for George isn't it?

George does not have the tank or accuracy to beat Usyk, and until Usyk gets beaten by KO his chin is imaginary. It's not right to give either the advantage there. If Foreman can KO him George's best chance is very early.

Also, Old Foreman might be a better fight for Usyk. He's not fast but his accuracy, timing, and placement is pretty ****ing good. Usyk's only beaten Joshua, who is easy as balls to hit.

I don't really care about CW. CW is a ****ty division. Always has been. Any good CW becomes a HW. BW is even dumber.

[Ascended]

If Bellew can catch usyk on his chin repeatedly so will Foreman. The End

Another one of those idiots who think the name of fighter means something same as those idiots who say buster beat Mike so others can yet the people they say who would beat Mike fought nothing like buster

George fought nothing like Tony he threw wide slow easy to read long range shots so what is the dumb comparison for

[YGriffith]

Yes 12 rounds to none.

[Ascended]

Usyk gets what Frazier got.

Another idiot who doesn't watch who goes off of that dumb quote of shorter fighters get destroyed yet all short boxers don't fight the same try watching matches idiot follower

[SUBZER0ED]

Uysk would try to box big George, but if he slipped up and got caught by one of those meat hooks, Ooohhh Boooy!

[PRINCEKOOL]

Usyk is 6'3" and 215

Big George was 6'4" around 220

Not much of a size difference, and Usyk has handled brutal punchers like Bredis and Gassiev who are all over 220lb on fight night

I don't see how Big George handles a guy as quick and skilled

Difference is? Usyk has had to pumped himself up to 215 pounds.

Foreman was 220 pounds by default, and not training with a ideology of gaining mass.

The strength levels between the two fighters will be vividly apparent.

I honestly don't think Usyk can't hurt Foreman, but Foreman will be hurting Usyk real bad.

Those fighters are the 70's are bigger than people perceived. They where by default naturally over 200 pounds, and they trained with a ideology 'To get light as possible'.

That was the training culture at heavyweight during that era.

Again as always with these mythical match ups. When is the fight happening? 70's, 80's, or present day?

If George Foreman from the 70's was transported to present day, and able to utilize all the information and science? He is going to be different fighter.

But I don't really think Foreman would have to change much. And if this fight was to happen in the 70's, Uysk would be a entirely different fighter also 'Usyk would not be weighing 215 pounds'.

So as you can see, fundamentally George Foreman is a more dangerous Heavyweight. And his style has stood, and can survive in any era. This is due to his training philosophies being based on old school techniques, that have been in use pretty much since the beginning of boxing.

I will say this? Uysk is a unprecedented talent of this time. I used to not really rate Usyk very highly at all, but since he beat Anthony Joshua. That performance has increased his rating.

The reason why I give Usyk big credit for beating Joshua. Is because of the physical feat involved. Usyk has pumped himself up, into being a classical Heavyweight in terms of physique. And he was able to beat a modern day Super Heavyweight in Anthony Joshua.

Now all those fighters from the 70's, would not have to pumped themselves up to 215-220 pounds 'They are like that by default'. So Usyk has shown evidence that those heavy weights of the past, could of competed today 'They may have even excelled, due to better conditioning'.

Most of the super heavyweights you see today, are just big. Very few are solid at the weight, and they all seem to struggle with endurance even though they have all this science available.

I am not going to say who would win between Foreman and Usyk, because I cannot be bothered giving predictions on mythical match ups. Definitely not when it is involves fighters from past era's, going as far back as the 70's.

I think it is quite low to be honest.

Note: I still believe that Anthony Joshua beats Usyk in the rematch. And even if Joshua achieves such a feat, I will still rate Usyk.

[REDEEMER]

Foreman would be at a major disadvantage, giving Usyk time to calculate slow punching is a huge advantage to him just watch the Joyce fight and Joyce is actually a volume puncher unlike Foreman . The most likely to beat Jsyk is sharp fast combinations and this wasn’t Foreman . Usyk is just to skilled and would have the abilities to get into just the right angles to make Foreman miss by miles , he won’t stop Foreman obviously but a wide UD win is the likely out outcome .

Foreman would slow down and Usyk would just tag him up as the fight goes longer .

[Haka]

Usyk outhussles him imo.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Ali didn't have his legs at that point and in my opinion he's not beating Usyk without them.

I think Ali pre prison beats Usyk but I don't think he was the same fighter after that and I think Usyk is an elite boxing talent who matches Ali for size and is in his prime.

As for if Usyk loses to Chisora well yes that would change my view as while Chisora is a better fighter than his record suggests Usyk really ought not be having any major issues with such a limited fighter.

Usyk had issues with Chisora.

He was battered.

I rate Usyk, but? He has been battered at heavyweight in most of his fights, his real fights etc.

He is winning, but also getting battered in the process.