Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

[Noelanthony]

Another one of those idiots who think the name of fighter means something same as those idiots who say buster beat Mike so others can yet the people they say who would beat Mike fought nothing like buster

George fought nothing like Tony he threw wide slow easy to read long range shots so what is the dumb comparison for

and a fighter that throws slow easy to read long range shots never catches a slick boxer...right?? sit down and shut up

[Noelanthony]

and why do you think pushing would work on usyk cause he is a patient counterer like a tommy/oscar/young ali and others who were pickers and counterers why dont you people ever see the flaws in that pushing somebody who is a great picker/counterer is dumb they would be pushed right where they fought best from its better to not push like you people are so dumb to keep saying that cause other idiots say it you convinced yourselves it works on people it obviously wouldn't

george was picked off in his late years when he had better defense why would him in his young years not having any defense just leaving himself open using only pushes which i told you the flaws of using do good with any of these types it doesn’t add up

none of these dudes would just stand there after he pushes them never thought about that or thought about how long range and slow his shots were huh its obvious he would be picked apart and countered and koed by combos from usyk same as bowe the difference wit bowe though is he a picker per say but a man who would unleash great mutuple combos he would destroy george he would overwhelm him

i take you people only seen george matches vs people who he destroyed who were were easy targets who just stand there or tried brawling which is why you people always leave out jim/martin remember him he wasnt bullied he stopped the pushes by walking into him stopping him from over pushing all the time he wasnt destroyed either that match never happened though so leave that out

or how about chuvalo his timing was bad but he made george missed easy shots others who if had good timing and more speed would take advantage of leave that match out to though

and always add in a joe who didn't move good no more who just stood there like thats idiotic to give credit to george like anybody could of did that joe that way

thats enough sucking of usyk, get off your knees and go home and see your family

[Ascended]

and a fighter that throws slow easy to read long range shots never catches a slick boxer...right?? sit down and shut up

Where did you see me say that in that way cause I specifically said what I meant and always do and I specifically said george which most know his style

so no its not just a fighter that you described Cause I can name a different person and they could be slow and easy to read but they throw punches different so your trying to flip what I said to mean what you want doesnt work on me or does acting slow right?

so your comment makes no sense why dont you read the whole thing agian cause then you will understand you skipped over alot why the rush if you hadn't done that you wouldn't had said this idiotic comment

and I'm already sitting you slow person

[garfios]

Repeating that lie quote huh he wasnt tough to hard shots shown by Ron 1st round

I know you're a newbie, or a least a boxrec aficionado. Since you like to check records, why not resume too? Ron was a murderous puncher, and if you follow the heavyweight division, you should know one punch can change everything. He got caught, Big George, and out on his feet koed Lyle, a guy that has fought, Ali, Jimmy Young, Shavers, Ellis, Bonavena, Quarry. If you think usyk, which I hold in high regards, was going to walk all over Foreman, you're wrong. First, if we comparing, you have to take George to this new era of nutrition, which will make him bigger and stronger, or take usyk back in time. George was relentless, no breaks. Just because he outboxed joshua, it doesn't mean he can do the same with Foreman, different set of minds, boxing styles and will, and the chin.

[Ascended]

I know you're a newbie, or a least a boxrec aficionado. Since you like to check records, why not resume too? Ron was a murderous puncher, and if you follow the heavyweight division, you should know one punch can change everything. He got caught, Big George, and out on his feet koed Lyle, a guy that has fought, Ali, Jimmy Young, Shavers, Ellis, Bonavena, Quarry. If you think usyk, which I hold in high regards, was going to walk all over Foreman, you're wrong. First, if we comparing, you have to take George to this new era of nutrition, which will make him bigger and stronger, or take usyk back in time. George was relentless, no breaks. Just because he outboxed joshua, it doesn't mean he can do the same with Foreman, different set of minds, boxing styles and will, and the chin.

Not responding to this cause skipping over what I said and picking what you want as if its all i said doesnt work good with me how about repeating all of what I said so I can respond

[PRINCEKOOL]

I know you're a newbie, or a least a boxrec aficionado. Since you like to check records, why not resume too? Ron was a murderous puncher, and if you follow the heavyweight division, you should know one punch can change everything. He got caught, Big George, and out on his feet koed Lyle, a guy that has fought, Ali, Jimmy Young, Shavers, Ellis, Bonavena, Quarry. If you think usyk, which I hold in high regards, was going to walk all over Foreman, you're wrong. First, if we comparing, you have to take George to this new era of nutrition, which will make him bigger and stronger, or take usyk back in time. George was relentless, no breaks. Just because he outboxed joshua, it doesn't mean he can do the same with Foreman, different set of minds, boxing styles and will, and the chin.

Yes, factoring in that Foreman would boil down to 215-224 pounds in the 1970's, because that was the training culture back then. With more emphasis on fighters getting as light as possible and gearing their training towards fitness and endurance.

In today's era, if he was most likely to embrace all the strength and conditioning techniques. That 70's Foreman is most likely going to be 230-235 pounds completely solid 'Probably in the mid 230's'.

Usyk would be out weighed by a stone and a half in my opinion. He is not the same size as Foreman, or even most of the other 70's Heavyweights I have mentioned.

They all boiled down to heavyweight, were as Usyk has pumped himself up.

[Roberto Vasquez]

What would posses people to think Usyk beats Foreman I'll never know. Foreman is known as one of the biggest punchers ever and not only is Usyk capable of being hit but he is unproven as a heavyweight

I never buy Foreman as being that huge a puncher. Sure he hits very hard but most of his fights he had to hit the guy a ton of times to stop him. It wasn't like Wilder-power. I think Foreman got that rep from the Ali film where they had to build him up as wrecking ball.

We need to see Usyk in more heavyweight fights to have a good idea but he's only been in the division 5 minutes and already has more belts than Tyson Fury. So let's see. Usyk did not look great against Witherspoon, and AJ in a way is made for him.

[garfios]

Not responding to this cause skipping over what I said and picking what you want as if its all i said doesnt work good with me how about repeating all of what I said so I can respond

I don't know what you're referring to, and I quoted "Repeating that lie quote huh he wasnt tough to hard shots shown by Ron 1st round", especially the lie part.. I just got from that sentence, that you think George is an easy target for usyk.

[eco1]

I am a big Usyk fan. Prime Foreman would be champion today.

[Ascended]

I never buy Foreman as being that huge a puncher. Sure he hits very hard but most of his fights he had to hit the guy a ton of times to stop him. It wasn't like Wilder-power. I think Foreman got that rep from the Ali film where they had to build him up as wrecking ball.

We need to see Usyk in more heavyweight fights to have a good idea but he's only been in the division 5 minutes and already has more belts than Tyson Fury. So let's see. Usyk did not look great against Witherspoon, and AJ in a way is made for him.

That doesn't make sense why do you people repeat that quote oh this man needs more matches what does having more matches mean cause people in the Joe era and before and we seen people from the 80s have mutiple matches does that mean they would do good h2h no so that makes no sense to keep using that quote its really dumb to keep saying that and it always has been dumb

That quote means to me oh if this person fought alot of trash dudes means he does good vs a person who isnt trash see how it sounds it sounds ridiculous

What we do is see how a person does vs a similar style of fighter or one who has good movement go from there and we have seen usyk fight people who move way better then George and give them trouble

We have seen george struggle to hit people who don't just stand there like a Chuvalo/jim/joe 2nd match/martin who wasnt bullied not only that he struggled but he was picked off easy

George power comes from quotes nothing in the ring ever showed him like he is talked of

Quotes like this 1 good shot from george
all he needs is a couple and its over
Nobody could take George shots yet no names took his shots before being stopped let alone dropped

George Never had that tech where it only took a handful to drop a person not until he was old

The closest we have to a george type usyk fought is chisora but even he moves better then george he has mutiple lateral movements advances and is faster at hand and more random in his shots but his shots are sloopy and still slow compared to others just like george was the other difference is chis doesnt waste as many shots chis to me looks to be a combo of Frazier to since he comes in with that head tucked

Chis is more advanced then george thats obvious by a good amount i see and Frazier

Like watch how george fights he is so sloopy in his shots doesnt Block and his timing isnt that good for landing shots unless his person was where he needed them which is why alot of matches he looks hesitant

It's s really obvious looking at the advances chis has over george and usyk gave him trouble that usyk picks apart george and counters him with no trouble