Prime JAMES TONEY Vs Usyk @ 200lbs

[Nay_Sayer]

I'm doubting you've even seen Toney fight Tiberi or Johnson or any of these guys, tbh.

I scored the fight 7-5 Tiberi

[satiev1]

Ok, let's just say for arguments sake that I agree with this sentiment. How does this change the fundamental truth here - which is Usyk is *not* on Toney's level? It doesn't.


Toney's resume defecates and urinates all over Lomachenko's..

Toney did lose to b level fighters. Montell griffin twice. And griffin is 5 6. AND also lost to Drake Thadzi by MD. Now continue trolling.

[kiDynamite92]

Yeah, on what Planet? Not this one?

Who did Toney ever clown that was even close to Usyk's level?

Surprised to see you in here! Who would have though?!

[katjack]

I haven't seen enough of Usyk to say but Toney was really good on his best day.

[billeau2]

Ok and the point is Toney got hit more than Usyk did against Bellew against inferior fighters than Bellew.

I.e It's a sht, illogical argument.

Tiberi hit Toney more in one fight than Usyk has probably ever been hit. Tiberi who is a journeyman had no problem what so ever hitting Toney and beat him clearly and easily.

You exxagerate the import of that Tiberi fight...You readily admit you only really have an interest only in beesmirching Toney, its kind of amusing... But from a clear headed perspective? it looks ridiculous to compare such a stat my friend lol.

And not Tiberi won that fight but it was not as monumental as you make it out to be. It was an amazing achievement for Tiberi.

Toney is inconsistent and that is not debatable. He also is very talented, and has beat great fighters, unless you want to explain away every win... Holly was past it, Nunn was...well Toney got lucky, etc etc etc...

[billeau2]

Toney did lose to b level fighters. Montell griffin twice. And griffin is 5 6. AND also lost to Drake Thadzi by MD. Now continue trolling.

Montell Griffin is one of those guys that his record does not tell the whole story...Like Salidad for example. There is not shame in losing to Griffin, he is the Jimmy Young of the middle divisions!

[IronDanHamza]

You exxagerate the import of that Tiberi fight...You readily admit you only really have an interest only in beesmirching Toney, its kind of amusing... But from a clear headed perspective? it looks ridiculous to compare such a stat my friend lol.

And not Tiberi won that fight but it was not as monumental as you make it out to be. It was an amazing achievement for Tiberi.

Toney is inconsistent and that is not debatable. He also is very talented, and has beat great fighters, unless you want to explain away every win... Holly was past it, Nunn was...well Toney got lucky, etc etc etc...

I don't admit that at all.

I don't exaggerate anything. You made the argument that Bellew hit Usyk, what exactly is your point??????? When the same argument, for WORSE fighters, can be made for Toney How can a literal exact comparison of your argument be ridiculous in your mind?

The only great fighter Toney beat was Mike McCallum in the rematch and IMO he lost but won't argue with the decision.

Evander Holyfield was shot to pieces and that's a fact so why you'd bring that up I don't know.

Micheal Nunn isn't a great fighter or even close to one. And no Toney wasn't lucky, but he was schooled for the vast majority of that fight.

[Nay_Sayer]

Toney did lose to b level fighters. Montell griffin twice. And griffin is 5 6. AND also lost to Drake Thadzi by MD. Now continue trolling.

Toney has names on his resume.

Exactly WHO has Lomachenko beaten?

[satiev1]

Toney has names on his resume.

Exactly WHO has Lomachenko beaten?

RIGONDEAUX A P4P fighter who 50 percent of the forum thought would win along with the mayweather club. Walters who many said would beat lomachenko. Gary russell, linares, luke campbell.

[Nay_Sayer]

RIGONDEAUX A P4P fighter who 50 percent of the forum thought would win along with the mayweather club.

LMAO

Rigondeaux was a '22lb'er who had done NOTHING @ '26 or '30, where the fight took place. Beating a '22lb'er @ '30 isn't particularly impressive.

Walters who many said would beat lomachenko. Gary russell, linares, luke campbell.

LMAO

This list isn't exactly a Murderer's Row. Walters was coming off of a long layoff and looked like chit in his previous fight. Russell is a good win but beating the GRJ's of the world doesn't get you into the HoF.

Wake me when Lomachenko beats someone of any consequence..