Prime JAMES TONEY Vs Usyk @ 200lbs

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #211
    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
    Beating the best in boxing's worst division isn't saying much.
    Debatable but either way he cleaned out the division.

    Jirov didn't beat a ranked fighter.

    Black and white difference there you cannot compare the two.

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      #212
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      I think that's a question you need to answer.

      Speaking of seeing fights, you gonna post your scorecard for Toney Tiberi?
      So, you are telling me that you did not give a round to Williams in that fight? Are you for real?

      I don't have a scorecard. But I do know Tiberi won the fight clearly as does every human being on the planet with a functioning pair of eyes.

      You understand that there was a government investigation and Toney HIMSELF admits he lost that fight, right?

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      • Nay_Sayer
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        #213
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Debatable but either way he cleaned out the division.

        Jirov didn't beat a ranked fighter.

        Black and white difference there you cannot compare the two.
        I didn't know we were comparing Usyk to Jirov. To be honest, that's a much more fair comparison than comparing Usyk to Toney. Toney has names on his resume. Remind me again of exactly WHO has Usyk beaten...

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          #214
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          So, you are telling me that you did not give a round to Williams in that fight? Are you for real?
          I haven't seen that fight in a while but, no, I don't recall giving Williams a single round.



          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          I don't have a scorecard. But I do know Tiberi won the fight clearly as does every human being on the planet with a functioning pair of eyes.
          Well, I DO have a scorecard - and my card says you don't know much about how to score a fight - or - that you're legally blind. Your choice.



          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          You understand that there was a government investigation and Toney HIMSELF admits he lost that fight, right?
          I understand what my scorecard says. 7-5 Tiberi. I didn't see a robbery..

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            #215
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            I didn't know we were comparing Usyk to Jirov. To be honest, that's a much more fair comparison than comparing Usyk to Toney. Toney has names on his resume. Remind me again of exactly WHO has Usyk beaten...
            It's you that compared them in the first place

            You can't compare Usyk to Toney career wise right now no, I agree.

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              #216
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
              I haven't seen that fight in a while but, no, I don't recall giving Williams a single round.



              Well, I DO have a scorecard - and my card says you don't know much about how to score a fight - or - that you're legally blind. Your choice.



              I understand what my scorecard says. 7-5 Tiberi. I didn't see a robbery..
              Well you should rewatch it then because he won several.

              Your scorecard is garbage. Tiberi won clearly to such an extent the government investigated the decision and Toney admitted himself he lost the fight, dummy.

              How much more evidence of a robbery do you need? It is literally one of the biggest robberies in the history of the sport and your woeful scorecard doesn't change that.

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                #217
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Once again, just nothing but lies. When have I said Toney has no good wins?

                Jirov was garbage. He literally has no wins of note as a professional. Literally!!!

                Holyfield wasn't shot? Wow, really? You are aware that he was 2-2-1 in his last 5 fights and lost his next fight to Larry Donald right? Holyfield wasn't shot Hilarious.

                "I discount everything in Toney's favour" Again, that's a lie.

                I had Toney winning;

                Williams
                Sosa
                Griffin 2

                I had Toney losing;

                Mcallum 2
                Johnson

                Yet do not argue the above two are robberies.

                So please explain your BULLSHIT statment. You can't, because it's simply a lie.

                As for Tiberi, it's not a big deal. I just highlight he lost to a journeyman and got hit more in that fight than Usyk did against Bellew.

                It's you that brought up the shit argument that Usyk got hit by Bellew.

                Ok? And? What is your point?????????

                Like I said, Toney got hit more than Usyk did vs Bellew by worse fighters than Bellew, multie times. So it's a totally illogical argument.
                Being dense is not a strategy to win an argument...Sorry Charley. Saying the same BS over and over does not make it stick to the wall the next time...

                Grow up. Your haterade for Toney is silly. Holly won his next 3 fights, fact, look it up. You minimize Toney's best wins is also a fact. Jirov was not garbage, he may not have been a great fighter but was decent... And the Nunn fight was a great win whether you see it that way.....Or Not!

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Well you should rewatch it then because he won several.
                  Fair enough.



                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Your scorecard is garbage. Tiberi won clearly to such an extent
                  Ok, post your scorecard and lets see who does and doesn't know how to properly score a fight.

                  I'm waiting..


                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  the government investigated the decision and Toney admitted himself he lost the fight, dummy.
                  LMAO. So local government officials are now experts on how to score a fight? Really?



                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  How much more evidence of a robbery do you need?
                  YOUR scorecard, Genius. Man UP and post one.



                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  It is literally one of the biggest robberies in the history of the sport and your woeful scorecard doesn't change that.
                  Does the term "Drama Queen" mean anything to you?

                  Lol..

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by billeau2
                    And the Nunn fight was a great win whether you see it that way.....Or Not!
                    The Nunn, Barkley and Holyfield wins absolutely defecate and urinate on the whole of Usyk's career.

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                      #220
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