Serious question - does any group overhype their fighters more than the UK?

[Boxing_1013]

It is INARGUABLE that any fighter that becomes a champ has entered the top 1% of those who do what they do for a living and has made it to a place thousands of others have failed. Not one person on this message board is ranked in the top 1% at what they do for a living. Burns has been washed up for years when he fought Indongo but he beat another guy in Rocky Martinez who also rose into that 1% in the world, just like Indongo. Whatever you do for a living, you would be embarrassed if you tried to challenge someone who is world ranked, famous, or has been seen on national TV performing their craft. Consider yourself schooled.

Huh...you're trying to make this into an argument I wasn't making.

I never said those guys were complete bums or bad people or that I hate them.

I said they were all overhyped relative to their level...and they are/were.

If that upsets you so be it...but if you get upset every time someone calls a pro boxer overrated, you are going to be in for a rough go on this site my friend.

[Toffee]

Is this thread alleging that people from the UK are overrating Fury and Joshua?

The consensus 1 and 2? Who own every belt between them?

How exactly can they be overrated? They are the best two boxers in the world.

[EnglishOxide]

Is this thread alleging that people from the UK are overrating Fury and Joshua?

The consensus 1 and 2? Who own every belt between them?

How exactly can they be overrated? They are the best two boxers in the world.

I think some American fans are just salty that they have nobody other than Crawford and Spence to shout about in boxing. They want to go back to the good 'ol days where Jermain Taylor, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr and Jeff Lacy were the true icons of the sport...

Oh wait a minute, weren't they all destroyed by British fighters?

[TMLT87]

It amuses me that Americans get so salty over British fighters honestly. Its a small ****ing island thousands of miles away with a population comparable to California + Texas. You'd think it was some giant superpower media empire that controls all boxing media the way Americans act. How about just appreciate that they actually care about boxing and turn out for their fighters? they fill up football stadiums for fights, they travel thousands of miles to watch their guys, they buy PPVs in good numbers, they're one of the few places outside of America that consistently puts on decent sized boxing shows. No need to hate that is there?

[Citizen Koba]

It seems the UK/AJ posters have come out of the woodwork since Fury's win over Wilder.

As someone who was rooting for Fury and was glad he won, the resurgence of all of these 'AJ/UK' posters reminded me just how nice it actually was when AJ lost to Ruiz...they disappeared for a while and the discourse on here was much better...not perfect mind you...but before their presence was so large and loud that it was impossible to really reason with them.

Well gentleman...it appears they have come back, in droves...he.ll just check my signature below for the type of insanity we will now be having to deal with after Fury beating Wilder.

Men...it will not be easy to beat back these savages...but rest easy...very soon I'm sure AJ will get chinned again...and the great Dillian Whyte will surely lose too, as great as he is...what a stud that fat tub of goo is...he has to take PEDs and he still sucks.

For every one great UK fighter - a Tyson Fury for example - there are 3 Liam Walsh, Ricky Burns and Liam Smith type fighters...who get incredible hype at the UK level, are said to be world level, and are then embarrassed when they step up to world level.

Why does it matter? Nothing wrong with expressing enthusiasm for fighters. The real problem is - in my book at least - all the dudes crapping on accomplished fighters, calling 'em bums, hypejobs or whatever. Seems to be on here there's a loud and vocal minority in all fanbases who either can't seperate the two things or just want to ruffle feathers. Course, soon as you start calling a nation / fighter rubbish you quickly get huindreds of replies - that ish drives itself and it ain't hard to see why that kinda drivel takes over the forum - egos come to bear and no one wants to back down.

Are you really bothered here because people are saying Joshua is great or because they're saying Deontay / US Heavies are crap? Think about it.

[Ray*]

Pretty much every thread I read on the topic had about an equal number of Davis/Smith supporters...thread below a good example of it.

Would like to see a poll from around that time...couldn't find it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=745979&page=3

You probably need a better example than this one

[Ray*]

Ray just the other day, I saw you lamenting how the UK has basically brainwashed people that Whyte can beat Wilder...and I believe I saw you say that you would still, as I would, pick Wilder to beat AJ.

First of all, i know a lot of brits who are knowledgeable about boxing, they might want someone to win but that doesn't mean they would pick that person to win.

Your Liam evidence was basically nothing to use to support your thread, i personally picked Wilder to beat both AJ and Whyte, i have done from day 1 and nothing has changed for me.

Having said that i have zero issues with anyone that picks AJ and Whyte to beat Wilder, does that make then morons? no... or nationalist? No.

We have americans who pick Ortiz to beat Joshua, does that make them cuban nationalist? To say certain countries "Overhype" their boxers is laughable. Why? Because every one does that to an extent.

Since the Fury win you have been on here claiming "Am not a Wilder fan" but then proceed to try and put negativity on anyone that celebrates Fury's victory.

You come across like you are hurt or triggered by his loss, maybe you are american that is irritated by the loss? At the end of the day when someone loses the way Wilder does, or the way Joshua did, you would have a lot of post/threads in the weeks thereafter.

There is no need to be triggered by it. It would die down sooner than you think, the only thing keeping this one alive is the excuses...Which are Gold i tell ya...

[deathofaclown]

I don’t think we overhype our fighters in the UK, we just get behind them. There’s a difference. American’s don’t get behind their fighters, they just like them when they succeed and forget them when they don’t.

There’s not one British boxing fan that thinks guys like Liam Smith are top level, but they will get behind him when he’s trying to achieve something.


Of course you get your casual fans that don’t really know much about boxing, they get all their boxing knowledge from Sky Sports News and Eddie Hearn interviews on there. So yeah, maybe those people get a bit deluded but that happens everywhere.

I’d say most actual boxing fans that are bit more educated about it are a bit more rational.

[Jax teller]

"No one was really hyping Wilder"

You must have missed the threads saying his reign is comparable to Ali's and other fans saying he'd destroy Mike Tyson easy and is the next Marciano.

[BillyBoxing]

PBC fighters are the most overhyped fighter in boxing medias.
The PBC fans group is the worst by the way.

None of them are great. Despite being a bigger stable in boxing.

TOP rank, with Bud, Loma and Fury have 3 truly great fighters.