Serious question - does any group overhype their fighters more than the UK?

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxing_1013



    Were you here when he was fighting Davis? I could have sworn it was a 50/50 fight from reading the posts on here.
    From who? Liam Davis’s father and brothers?

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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
      It seems the UK/AJ posters have come out of the woodwork since Fury's win over Wilder.

      As someone who was rooting for Fury and was glad he won, the resurgence of all of these 'AJ/UK' posters reminded me just how nice it actually was when AJ lost to Ruiz...they disappeared for a while and the discourse on here was much better...not perfect mind you...but before their presence was so large and loud that it was impossible to really reason with them.

      Well gentleman...it appears they have come back, in droves...he.ll just check my signature below for the type of insanity we will now be having to deal with after Fury beating Wilder.

      Men...it will not be easy to beat back these savages...but rest easy...very soon I'm sure AJ will get chinned again...and the great Dillian Whyte will surely lose too, as great as he is...what a stud that fat tub of goo is...he has to take PEDs and he still sucks.

      For every one great UK fighter - a Tyson Fury for example - there are 3 Liam Walsh, Ricky Burns and Liam Smith type fighters...who get incredible hype at the UK level, are said to be world level, and are then embarrassed when they step up to world level.
      Serious answer... no

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        #13
        Look at how they treat their soccer clubs. Like gods. Everyone else is pond scum. Highly emotional and irrational. Even me calling it soccer has at least a few of them seeing red. Of course they’d be the same way with boxing and I understand it. When there isn’t anything going on in your boring azz country then you fall in love with anything that entertains you even slightly.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          It seems the UK/AJ posters have come out of the woodwork since Fury's win over Wilder.

          As someone who was rooting for Fury and was glad he won, the resurgence of all of these 'AJ/UK' posters reminded me just how nice it actually was when AJ lost to Ruiz...they disappeared for a while and the discourse on here was much better...not perfect mind you...but before their presence was so large and loud that it was impossible to really reason with them.

          Well gentleman...it appears they have come back, in droves...he.ll just check my signature below for the type of insanity we will now be having to deal with after Fury beating Wilder.

          Men...it will not be easy to beat back these savages...but rest easy...very soon I'm sure AJ will get chinned again...and the great Dillian Whyte will surely lose too, as great as he is...what a stud that fat tub of goo is...he has to take PEDs and he still sucks.

          For every one great UK fighter - a Tyson Fury for example - there are 3 Liam Walsh, Ricky Burns and Liam Smith type fighters...who get incredible hype at the UK level, are said to be world level, and are then embarrassed when they step up to world level.
          Yes, they all won world titles when they stepped up to world level ... how embarrassing is that?

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            #15
            Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
            Look at how they treat their soccer clubs. Like gods. Everyone else is pond scum. Highly emotional and irrational. Even me calling it soccer has at least a few of them seeing red. Of course they’d be the same way with boxing and I understand it. When there isn’t anything going on in your boring azz country then you fall in love with anything that entertains you even slightly.
            There are no soccer clubs in the UK.

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              #16
              Originally posted by kafkod
              There are no soccer clubs in the UK.
              Does it anger you that I suggested there was?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                So serious question -

                Is there any group that overhypes its fighters more than the UK? They are a clear number 1 imo...Mexican fighters next at number 2...then US fighters followed by eastern Euros...and then 'other' fighters, who are often undervalued imho...such as Cubans/Africans/etc.

                I make my determinations based on the fact that all the money is really in the US UK and Mexico...so guys from those areas get more hype and attention and help...it is easier to sell a UK fighter to a UK person etc, same with Mexicans, US, Eastern Euros, etc.

                The UK just seems to have a lot of attention on their boxing, and a lot of guys trying to make it...it just so happens that most of the time they actually suck...but we still have to hear about it for 2 years until they finally step up.

                Certainly...Mexico has a decent number like this...Mungia comes to mind...Ryan Garcia (yes he is Mexican for all intents and purposes) was a bit overhyped but has looked very good to me lately...Canelo was overhyped but has lived up to much of it.

                The US as well has some overhyped guys, but generally the US and Eastern euro amateur systems sort out who the best really are...so when we see those guys in the big time, more often that not they are the genuine article...imho anyway.

                So yeah - can anyone argue that the UK overrates their fighters more than anyone?

                For goodness sake...we are now having to deal with people saying Dillian Whyte is a great fighter...it is always like this with some obscure British level fighter...and then when they step up, over 50% of the time they get wrecked and his 'fans' suddenly disappear, only to back a new hope.
                There are 4 versions of the world HW title, and every one of them is held by a fighter from the UK. (population 60million)

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                  I would say PBC fighters get the most undeserved hype. U.K. not far behind. I will say this, British fans are some of the most spirited fans in all of sports. Not such a bad thing when AJ can put 100K asses in seats.
                  Last edited by GhostofDempsey; 02-27-2020, 08:35 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                    Does it anger you that I suggested there was?
                    No. ........

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                      So serious question -

                      Is there any group that overhypes its fighters more than the UK? They are a clear number 1 imo...Mexican fighters next at number 2...then US fighters followed by eastern Euros...and then 'other' fighters, who are often undervalued imho...such as Cubans/Africans/etc.

                      I make my determinations based on the fact that all the money is really in the US UK and Mexico...so guys from those areas get more hype and attention and help...it is easier to sell a UK fighter to a UK person etc, same with Mexicans, US, Eastern Euros, etc.

                      The UK just seems to have a lot of attention on their boxing, and a lot of guys trying to make it...it just so happens that most of the time they actually suck...but we still have to hear about it for 2 years until they finally step up.

                      Certainly...Mexico has a decent number like this...Mungia comes to mind...Ryan Garcia (yes he is Mexican for all intents and purposes) was a bit overhyped but has looked very good to me lately...Canelo was overhyped but has lived up to much of it.

                      The US as well has some overhyped guys, but generally the US and Eastern euro amateur systems sort out who the best really are...so when we see those guys in the big time, more often that not they are the genuine article...imho anyway.

                      So yeah - can anyone argue that the UK overrates their fighters more than anyone?

                      For goodness sake...we are now having to deal with people saying Dillian Whyte is a great fighter...it is always like this with some obscure British level fighter...and then when they step up, over 50% of the time they get wrecked and his 'fans' suddenly disappear, only to back a new hope.
                      Well, Fury just beat a guy that is basically built on the basis of the American hype machine. So if they are out in droves after this win, you are essentially setting yourself up for ridicule, when you try to deflect it onto other nations, than your own.

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